I've used it as an example many times from my team.
Karlsson had a fantastic game earlier this year (multi point too maybe cant remember), and his analytics on that same night were atrocious. And his overall adv stats on the year dipped after said great game. Like he truly played a great game and it was one of his better games of the year.
Now I'm always defending Karlsson from the hoards of hater/ other sharks fans. And I do agree he is not amazing nor is he worth 11mil. But his style of NEVER favored analytics and in his prime seasons with the Sens, he does not have good ADV numbers (from the historical ADV stats site I used). And that was displayed that night. As even with a amazing game he literally had like replacement level value on the ADV stats. Saying he basically was worth 700k while he put forth an elite showing of talent.
It's always best in tandem IMO as I still use numbers all the time but I do agree watching numbers and not the game can be a mighty hindrance at times.
I'm a huge fan of analytics, what I'm not a huge fan of is how people use them. Lot's of stuff happens during a game in which the naked eye can't pick up, while also their is many important parts of the game that no advanced metric can measure. The eye test should always come first, any pro scout with any creditability will tell you they always use the eye test as their most important evaluation tool. Analytics are useful when comparing players that are very close in skill and production level, using analytics to compare a 1st pairing dman to a 3rd pairing dman is where I have a problem with some of the analytics community, you can't compare a guy who plays 12-15 sheltered minutes a night to a guy playing 25 minutes against the other teams best players, that's just not logical.
I'm a huge fan of analytics, what I'm not a huge fan of is how people use them. Lot's of stuff happens during a game in which the naked eye can't pick up, while also their is many important parts of the game that no advanced metric can measure. The eye test should always come first, any pro scout with any creditability will tell you they always use the eye test as their most important evaluation tool. Analytics are useful when comparing players that are very close in skill and production level, using analytics to compare a 1st pairing dman to a 3rd pairing dman is where I have a problem with some of the analytics community, you can't compare a guy who plays 12-15 sheltered minutes a night to a guy playing 25 minutes against the other teams best players, that's just not logical.
I can’t have a decent conversation with the analytics crowd because most of them never played the game and just rely on their stats. Some have played the game and they are obviously more fun to talk to and debate
If you ever wonder why hockey isn't more popular, remember this post and read it again.
I know some Leaf fans will disagree, but either Marner or Nylander are getting dealt IF the Leafs lose. I think it will be Nylander that will be moved
Nylander is more affordable and performs in the playoffs so Leafs fans will want to keep him but realistically no way in hell a team offers a deal to the Leafs that they accept for Marner
Nylander is more affordable and performs in the playoffs so Leafs fans will want to keep him but realistically no way in hell a team offers a deal to the Leafs that they accept for Marner
I was thinking the same thing. Like what team can afford and wants an 11M winger that cant perform in the playoffs. Nylanders value should be super high right now based on his playoffs
I was thinking the same thing. Like what team can afford and wants an 11M winger that cant perform in the playoffs. Nylanders value should be super high right now based on his playoffs
Nylander is definitely the more appealing player for sure, imo Leafs either keep their core or shift some pieces around, can't do much else
Big example of this was last year. Analytics showed Hughes and Makar being so close, eye test you easily saw Makar was far better. Then this year if was proved, I mean Hughes also had very unfortunate conditions.
Nylander is definitely the more appealing player for sure, imo Leafs either keep their core or shift some pieces around, can't do much else
They can make changes in coaching and/or management. I'm not advocating for a particular course of action, but I'm having a tough time imagining life after another 1st round exit without a significant change of direction.
Everyone is saying, "Why trade Nylander when he's the best playoff performer." I get it. But, isn't the best time to trade a player when his stock is super high? The Leafs may never be in a more advantageous position to trade him. If you're gonna sell, sell as high as possible.
With so much combined hockey experience and knowledge on different teams in the NHL on these chats it would be fun to try and create a rating system or value system. The NFL has one that they use for draft pics it's pretty cool. Some GM created one in the 90s and it's used by lost now. It values each pick 1-31 per round and then you can add up picks to get to the value of one you want to trade to. Like 17th in the first round is equal to 24th and a third for example.
Excited about the game 7. It's been a tough battle to stay awake this late but I feel like it's gonna be worth it.
Go Habs! Cause that motherf*cking upset, because it'd be so hilarious to see either you guys or Winnipeg with the likes of Colorado, Tampa and Boston in the TOP4 of the league lol.
Excited about the game 7. It's been a tough battle to stay awake this late but I feel like it's gonna be worth it.
Go Habs! Cause that motherf*cking upset, because it'd be so hilarious to see either you guys or Winnipeg with the likes of Colorado, Tampa and Boston in the TOP4 of the league lol.
Dallas did it last year. It's your turn now!
Wouldn't it be funny if KK did what JFK did last year.