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Sabres Rebuild - Outsiders view

Created by: sedin33
Initial Creation Date: May 18, 2021
Published: May 18, 2021
Team: 2021-22 Buffalo Sabres
Team Explanation
Trade the 3 guys that want out; don't bottom out, but build for the future
Trades
1.
BUF
  1. Karlsson, William
  2. Krebs, Peyton
  3. 2021 1st round pick (VGK)
Additional Details:
get Karlsson to fill the void at center; future with Krebs and 1st
VGK
  1. Reinhart, Sam [RFA Rights]
Additional Details:
assuming Vegas doesn't make final 4; replace Karlsson with Reinhart
2.
BUF
  1. Laine, Patrik [RFA Rights]
  2. Domi, Max
  3. 2021 1st round pick (CBJ)
Additional Details:
replace offence; get top 10 pick for future; can trade Domi at the TDL
CBJ
  1. Eichel, Jack
Additional Details:
no 1 center to build around and convince Jones to resign
3.
BUF
  1. Vesalainen, Kristian
Additional Details:
cap savings; take a chance Vesalainen can live up to talent
WPG
  1. Ristolainen, Rasmus ($1,400,000 retained)
Additional Details:
bolster RHD
Buyouts
  • Cody Hodgson: $791,667
  • Christian Ehrhoff: $0
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Rasmus Ristolainen: $1,400,000 (25.93%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2021
BUF
VGK
CBJ
BUF
BOS
FLA
MTL
BUF
MTL
BUF
COL
BUF
2022
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
2023
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
15$81,500,000$45,724,749$113,916$2,195,000$35,775,251
Left WingCenterRight Wing
BUF
Skinner, Jeff
$9,000,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 6
BUF
Eakin, Cody
$2,250,000
C
UFA - 1
BUF
Okposo, Kyle
$6,000,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 2
BUF
Olofsson, Victor
$3,050,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
BUF
Thompson, Tage
$1,400,000
C, RW
RFA - 2
BUF
Bjork, Anders
$1,600,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
BUF
Cozens, Dylan
$894,167
C, LW
RFA - 2
WPG
Vesalainen, Kristian
$894,167
LW, RW
RFA - 1
VGK
Karlsson, William
$5,900,000
C
NTC
UFA - 6
VGK
Krebs, Peyton
$863,333
C, LW
RFA - 3
CBJ
Domi, Max
$5,300,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
BUF
Bryson, Jacob
$889,166
LD
RFA - 1
BUF
Miller, Colin
$3,875,000
RD
UFA - 1
BUF
Luukkonen, Ukko-Pekka
$778,333
G
RFA - 1
BUF
Tokarski, Dustin
$725,000
G
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
BUF
Girgensons, Zemgus
$2,200,000
C, LW
UFA - 2

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May 18, 2021 at 1:31 p.m.
#1
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Also an outsider. Gotta think overpay for Reinhart, underpay for Eichel, and meh on Risto.
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May 18, 2021 at 1:33 p.m.
#2
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Quoting: PuckLuck_77
Also an outsider. Gotta think overpay for Reinhart, underpay for Eichel, and meh on Risto.


Fair points.

The premium for Reinhart trade is due to the Karlsson contract.

Eichel's value decreased by the uncertainty around his injury.
May 18, 2021 at 1:37 p.m.
#3
Joined: Oct. 2020
Posts: 120
Likes: 40
CBJ says no. Trade away multiple pieces for a organizationally and physically damaged forward. Oilers struggled for years to get pieces around mcdavid. CBJ wont do the same. Korpi or elvis, both late 1s, tex, voronkov, Jenner is the best you will get
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May 18, 2021 at 1:41 p.m.
#4
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Quoting: Icekat20
CBJ says no. Trade away multiple pieces for a organizationally and physically damaged forward. Oilers struggled for years to get pieces around mcdavid. CBJ wont do the same. Korpi or elvis, both late 1s, tex, voronkov, Jenner is the best you will get


Don't think that gets you close. Not sure if Laine is a long term solution there. Definite need for no. 1 center. Organization needs to retain Jones. Eichel on the other hand is under contract for a long time which would be important for Columbus
May 18, 2021 at 1:42 p.m.
#5
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Quoting: sedin33
Fair points.

The premium for Reinhart trade is due to the Karlsson contract.

Eichel's value decreased by the uncertainty around his injury.


Karlsson is still producing at a pretty good level (generally good for 20+ goals), hasn't shown any indication of declining, and is on a very similar contract to Reinhart before the extension. It's actually cost stability going Buffalo's way for similar production. Especially since you're sending out an increased cost Reinhart, 10mil in Eichel, and 4mil ish in Risto. I don't think there needs to be any premium for trading his contract, personally.
May 18, 2021 at 1:51 p.m.
#6
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Joined: Jul. 2020
Posts: 2,963
Likes: 1,450
How do you convince Karlsson to waive his no trade clause?
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May 18, 2021 at 1:52 p.m.
#7
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Posts: 1,135
Likes: 401
I use to think WPG fans wanted Risto because I saw a bunch of WPG trades that involved him - but now I see WPG fans saying we don't want Risto no Risto to WPG trades.
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May 18, 2021 at 1:52 p.m.
#8
Joined: Jun. 2017
Posts: 2,642
Likes: 897
I'm not sure how Reinhart is getting more in return than Eichel. Domi is horrid. Laine is a one trick pony that cost a lot of money. That would be a scary bad move by the sabres
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May 18, 2021 at 2:49 p.m.
#9
Nah.
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Quoting: sedin33
Don't think that gets you close. Not sure if Laine is a long term solution there. Definite need for no. 1 center. Organization needs to retain Jones. Eichel on the other hand is under contract for a long time which would be important for Columbus


I agree Laine isn’t the long term solution. If I placed bets on it, I think he’s traded within the next year. Jarmo was forced into a less-than-ideal trade as a result of Dubois’ public and on-ice hissy-fitting.

But on this trade, I wouldn’t want it. I’ve said it before - the trade to get Eichel will give up enough assets as to leave CBJ with Eichel exactly where they are at without him - not very good. This is better for CBJ than most of the other Eichel trades I’ve seen, but I’m still not for him going to CBJ.
May 18, 2021 at 2:54 p.m.
#10
Sabres are elite
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Don't want two bums and a 1st for Eichel.
 
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