Would you offer that package for gaudreau? His career low in points is the same as reinhart’s career high and he’s only 2 years older 😐

No due to age

As a Sabres fan, that's a heckuva return for Reinhart. And it's tank friendly.

I really don’t know the return reinhart could fetch. Former 2nd overall pick and consistent year after year.

Way to much more Reinhart

Agreed I think Kupari should be in place of Turcotte. It’s crazy to think kings can get rid of a couple top prospects and still have a deep pool along with solid prospects being brought up to the NHL.

It’s honestly a pretty safe bet that Gaudreau outproduces Reinhart every season for the next 6 years at least. And he’s never had a top 10 center in the league to play with.


He’s consistently a solid 2nd line winger lol.

People on this site really overvalue Reinhart, it’s truly absurd. He’s a 60 point winger and just because he’s the 2nd best player on the Sabres doesn’t mean he’ll be that for any other team. He should ideally be your 4th or 5th best forward if you have an actually good team. Turcotte should not be in the conversation at all, a mediocre team trading a 1st in a stacked draft a year out is a horrible idea despite the top 5 protection, and Reinhart should only be pulling 3 pieces max if one of them is a throw in AHLer to send a contract the other way.

I over paid due to the hype I guess lol.

From your point of view Turcotte is absolutely out of the question

Overpay.

This is a solid package for Eichel IMO but to much for Reinhart

Gaudreau will likely outscore Reinhart but Reinhart is a better all around player. His play driving metrics are great, he's reliable defensively, and he's versatile as a C and W.

I think more people undervalue him. He's great defensively and played like a top player this year. Just saying a 60 point winger is really underselling him.

It’s definitely not a bad offer that’s for sure.

He’s never played center before in the NHL prior to this year and would very likely not play center on any other team (certainly not LA, nor Calgary, nor Vancouver, another couple popular destinations for him). Being responsible defensively is good, sure, but I’d feel like his defense would only be actually noteworthy as a strength if he killed penalties, which he doesn’t. Not a complete liability in his own end makes him strictly average in this regard in my eyes. Maybe he could develop more defensive prowess on a good team under a good coach, who knows, not gonna bank on that though. In terms of underlying numbers, it’s not exactly difficult to be one of the better play drivers on the worst team in the league, so I’d take that with a grain of salt. None of this really changes my opinion that he’s a good 2nd line 60pt winger who can play on your top line if your strength is more at C/LW, and be the 4th forward on PP1 (or 5th best forward and run PP2) for a good team.


People definitely aren’t undervaluing him lol, literally look at what’s being offered for him here. Being the 2nd best player on the league’s worst team means nothing if he isn’t a 2nd best forward calibre player, which he is not on any good team. As I’ve said before and will maintain, he’s perfectly acceptable as the 4th or 5th best forward on a contender. And by the way, he shot 41% above his career average this season and was still only on pace for 60 points.

Being a play driver is actually much more difficult on a bad team because you don't have quality players to assist you so you're taking more of the load by yourself. Reinhart was very good at Center this year and even if he doesn't play C somewhere else he's shown that he has the versatility to do so if necessary. Gaudreau is streaky and IMO too soft to be a guy you lean on in the playoffs, not to mention he is not good defensively whatsoever.

Being the 4th or 5th best forward on a contending team is also really underselling him. He was one of the most impactful forwards this year. This is while also playing center with Skinner & Olofsson as his linemates. Don't see why he couldn't play center on another team.

I really hate this narrative. Gaudreau is one of the most skilled puck handlers and best playmakers in the entire league, and shows up consistently. The bad in the playoffs narrative is foolish and not backed up by anyone with a brain who actually watched him play. He was triple teamed against Colorado, and Lindholm and Monahan were the guys who decided they would do absolutely nothing with the newfound space. The only bad thing he did was miss 3 breakaways in a row lol, but everyone can have a rough night. In the bubble he was scoring at above a career average rate and consistently creating chances, several times per night he would draw several Stars players to him, or go on a rush and burn past a couple guys, only to set up a linemate who proceeded to whiff on it, miss the net, be caught behind the play, or simply aim right at the goalie’s chest. It was incredibly aggravating. He’s never had an elite linemate, or a true goal scorer to complement him. If he had a guy like Matthews or Eichel on his line he’d be a 100 point guy every year and this playoff nonsense would be nowhere to be found, as he’d have a guy who could actually finish his plays. It also literally doesn’t matter how bad he is defensively, not everyone has to be great defensively. Sometimes you can just have an uber-talented guy who does nothing but create offense, and if you have a good defense corps you’ll be fine (and Calgary does have a good defense corps, not to mention Lindholm, Backlund, and Mangiapane are all excellent defensive forwards). Reinhart literally doesn’t have that kind of potential, he’s had an elite centre for years and never topped a 65 point pace over a full season (once again, I’d like to point out that Gaudreau has literally never scored at less than this pace in any single season and has a career high of 99 points), and while he may be fine defensively, he’s not good enough in his own end to bump his value significantly, it’s just not a detriment to his value. Basically what I’m saying about defense is that Gaudreau is so good his defensive woes don’t matter because you want him for his offense. Reinhart is not that good, so he needs to be at least decent defensively so as to not nerf his value, which he is, so fair play. Still not in the same stratosphere as Gaudreau, or even Monahan while we’re on the Flames.

As for being good this year, he shot 41% above his career average shooting percentage, which isn’t exactly sustainable, and he only won 45% of his faceoffs, which is obviously pretty bad. I really don’t think he’s more than an emergency fill in at center on a good team, and he’ll likely regress in goal production next year.

The kings are giving up too much here. Not sure why theres so much shade on reinhart in the comments. Heres the deal- hes a very good player, his offense has improved every year, primarily a winger although his natural position is center. He isnt sexy at all- he isnt fast, he doesnt have a rocket shot, and the next check he throws might be his first. He has very good hands, he 100% goes to the net (and takes the beating), and he produces. The fact that hes currently a rental is the elephant in the room here. Why would he do the sabres a favor, like signing an extension, before they trade him? The sabres should get a first and a very solid forward prospect for him, but i dont think turcotte would be the forward. As far as gaudreau goes, hes worth more if you wanna pay extra. Both guys will basically be making around 7 and be able to walk for nothin next summer. Jg plays left, reinhart plays right and center. Thats an objective take from a sabres fan.