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Team: 2020-21 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: May 24, 2021
Published: May 24, 2021
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First don’t be a dick

This team is ****ing stupid
They play hard and nasty some periods and others they want to go on a picnic with the other team.They’re not the most talented so it has to be tough all game long, we’re too small
They also love hitting 4 line scrubs and not stars
Also how come your 1 dirty goal was from the 21 years old centre?

Secondly I think this team has an average hockey iq that is room temperature. How is it that your most creative player is the 5’7 kid who played in the NCAA all year? It always seems like they’re in a rush. And they can’t pass if they’re lives depended on it

Do you guys think that a new coach and gm will actually fix anything? This team needs several moves to get anywhere.

This team is also in a depressing place. Just good enough that you get excited to watch and develop some weird thing called hope, but not good enough to win a cup. And they’re not in the middle of some deep rebuild we’re you can get excited for the draft and prospect development

Also this will be controversial but Suzuki drives me absolutely mental. Doesn’t play intense and doesn’t seem to care, and makes these soft 3 foot passes for some reason. And is ****ing slow
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May 26, 2021 at 6:05 p.m.
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Quoting: TheGHANDI90
The fuss about KK is exactly what you mentioned. We need to stop using the "he's the youngest player in the draft - he's one of just 3 teenagers playing in the nhl - he's only 20 years old"
For reference, this was posted on Habs forum a while ago;

Career statistics under the age of 21:

DRAFT NAME GP G A PTS P/G
2006 Jonathan Toews 146 58 65 123 0.84
2000 Marian Gaborik 206 74 81 155 0.75
2009 Matt Duchene 200 63 83 146 0.73
2016 Pierre-Luc Dubois 164 47 62 109 0.66
2014 Leon Draisaitl 116 23 43 66 0.57
2012 Alex Galchenyuk 167 38 56 94 0.56
2003 Nathan Horton 126 42 27 69 0.55
2011 Jon Huberdeau 117 23 36 59 0.50
2013 Jonathan Drouin 89 6 34 40 0.45
2018 Jesperi Kotkaniem 168 22 40 62 0.37
2007 Kyle Turris 66 8 13 21 0.32
2001 Alexandr Svitov 103 6 13 19 0.18
2015 Dylan Strome 18 1 1 2 0.11

So to be perfectly frank, and looking at that list, KK is another Drouin... just worse. That doesn't bode well for him or instill much confidence in his career progression thus far. Even Galchenyuk's stats and overall effectiveness at the same age with equal amount of Games played was much more encouraging. And look how he turned out for us...

Galchenyuk>huberdeau🤔
Galchenyuk=draisaitl🤔
Dubois>draisaitl🤔
Just because you start off strong doesn’t mean you’ll be any good, just because you start slow doesn’t mean you’ll be bad
Huberdeau didn’t have his big year until 25
May 27, 2021 at 10:31 a.m.
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Quoting: TheGHANDI90
The fuss about KK is exactly what you mentioned. We need to stop using the "he's the youngest player in the draft - he's one of just 3 teenagers playing in the nhl - he's only 20 years old"
For reference, this was posted on Habs forum a while ago;

Career statistics under the age of 21:

DRAFT NAME GP G A PTS P/G
2006 Jonathan Toews 146 58 65 123 0.84
2000 Marian Gaborik 206 74 81 155 0.75
2009 Matt Duchene 200 63 83 146 0.73
2016 Pierre-Luc Dubois 164 47 62 109 0.66
2014 Leon Draisaitl 116 23 43 66 0.57
2012 Alex Galchenyuk 167 38 56 94 0.56
2003 Nathan Horton 126 42 27 69 0.55
2011 Jon Huberdeau 117 23 36 59 0.50
2013 Jonathan Drouin 89 6 34 40 0.45
2018 Jesperi Kotkaniem 168 22 40 62 0.37
2007 Kyle Turris 66 8 13 21 0.32
2001 Alexandr Svitov 103 6 13 19 0.18
2015 Dylan Strome 18 1 1 2 0.11

So to be perfectly frank, and looking at that list, KK is another Drouin... just worse. That doesn't bode well for him or instill much confidence in his career progression thus far. Even Galchenyuk's stats and overall effectiveness at the same age with equal amount of Games played was much more encouraging. And look how he turned out for us...


I respect the comment and analysis - Every single one of those players had far more North American rink experience than KK with the exception of Gaborik who was off and running at the start. I'll be patient and give KK one more year
Toews - Had Sharp and Kane his first 3 years, Duchene - Hejduk and Stastny, Dubois - Panarin, Jones/Werenski , Leon - McDavid, Eberle Taylor Hall, - KK has not exactly been set up or developed for success. Galchenyuk had one good year with Patches I believe then started to tank.
May 27, 2021 at 2:45 p.m.
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I respect the comment and analysis - Every single one of those players had far more North American rink experience than KK with the exception of Gaborik who was off and running at the start. I'll be patient and give KK one more year
Toews - Had Sharp and Kane his first 3 years, Duchene - Hejduk and Stastny, Dubois - Panarin, Jones/Werenski , Leon - McDavid, Eberle Taylor Hall, - KK has not exactly been set up or developed for success. Galchenyuk had one good year with Patches I believe then started to tank.


I told that guy above, 2 years with good linemates to prove he’s a top 6 centre
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May 27, 2021 at 10:09 p.m.
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Quoting: Leemer
I respect the comment and analysis - Every single one of those players had far more North American rink experience than KK with the exception of Gaborik who was off and running at the start. I'll be patient and give KK one more year
Toews - Had Sharp and Kane his first 3 years, Duchene - Hejduk and Stastny, Dubois - Panarin, Jones/Werenski , Leon - McDavid, Eberle Taylor Hall, - KK has not exactly been set up or developed for success. Galchenyuk had one good year with Patches I believe then started to tank.


That's partly my point. It's time to rebuild properly and acquire players our young guys can grow with. I don't want to keep hearing the phrase "let's just get into the playoffs and see what happens". THAT is how you build a perennial loser. Not cup contend year in year out.
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May 28, 2021 at 9:54 a.m.
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Quoting: TheGHANDI90
That's partly my point. It's time to rebuild properly and acquire players our young guys can grow with. I don't want to keep hearing the phrase "let's just get into the playoffs and see what happens". THAT is how you build a perennial loser. Not cup contend year in year out.


Yes - Your quote is bang on. I do want the habs to build properly thru the draft - the resets are futile. I do believe we have some core pieces to build around with Nick Suzuki, KK, Poehling, Evans ( I still want a bona fide stronger centre - they don't grow on trees). Toffoli, Anderson, Caufield, Gallagher fading but one needs some experience, Romanov, Petry (for the experience). The prospect pool is unproven but looks good with Struble, Guhle, Norlinder and Harris - My Jury is hung on Brooks or Fleury - not sure they make it. Allen / Primeau who looked shaky in a a couple of recent games are pieces. Another winger prospect of hope is Ylonen. The rest of the roster under contract including Price, Weber, Drouin, Lehkonen - they are all cannon fodder for me. Price's contract will be difficult to move but he deserves a chance to win somewhere. Weber can cross check elsewhere but his contract is not as much of a boat anchor as people think. He may have pride but after 2 more seasons, he is NOT playing for $1 million cash salary and risking injury. Edmundson was a terrible duplication of a Chiarot type defenseman - both are not what I am looking for with any term
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May 28, 2021 at 3:37 p.m.
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Quoting: Leemer
Yes - Your quote is bang on. I do want the habs to build properly thru the draft - the resets are futile. I do believe we have some core pieces to build around with Nick Suzuki, KK, Poehling, Evans ( I still want a bona fide stronger centre - they don't grow on trees). Toffoli, Anderson, Caufield, Gallagher fading but one needs some experience, Romanov, Petry (for the experience). The prospect pool is unproven but looks good with Struble, Guhle, Norlinder and Harris - My Jury is hung on Brooks or Fleury - not sure they make it. Allen / Primeau who looked shaky in a a couple of recent games are pieces. Another winger prospect of hope is Ylonen. The rest of the roster under contract including Price, Weber, Drouin, Lehkonen - they are all cannon fodder for me. Price's contract will be difficult to move but he deserves a chance to win somewhere. Weber can cross check elsewhere but his contract is not as much of a boat anchor as people think. He may have pride but after 2 more seasons, he is NOT playing for $1 million cash salary and risking injury. Edmundson was a terrible duplication of a Chiarot type defenseman - both are not what I am looking for with any term


Can't find a single thing i disagree with. It's unfortunate guys like Price and Gallagher, who has been a warrior for us, will prob never even sniff a SC final appearance. I agree i'd try to trade them now before the decline REALLY starts to settle in... As for the pieces and prospects, I too like most of the players you mentioned. We seem to have atleast drafted a lot of different types of Dmen which may pay dividends in a 3-5year timeframe. That's the thing tho, we will be somewhat competitive for a playoff spot in the coming years, but not for the cup. So at the end of the day what's the point other than to make molson a few extra millions for home playoff games.
 
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