You prob won't get 2 2nds and wings own pick for Samsonov after his on and off ice struggles. Maybe oilers 2nd this year and that's it. Wings also know you could lose him for free to Seattle

Probably 2nd is enough after Van pays $1M bonus $3M owed $6m cap hit

Det, Edm, Col, Buf, and SJS each might have an expansion protection slot open at goalie. WSH could trade either Samsonov or Vanecek to any of five teams. But if the return is just a late 2nd, I think they just pick a goalie to protect and lose the other in expansion.

Just a fan, but I suspect WSH has the money budgeted to spend up to the cap, and sees cap space as the more limited resource.

if OV doesn't resign, which is doubtful unless his request is ridiculous and he needs to be shown the door, they should tank and rebuild.

You rather lose a goalie for free then get a 2nd? How weird to me. Wings pass then

WSH has a lot of good defensemen, too. They're going to lose someone good in expansion. A 24 year old who has shown he can be an above average goalie in the NHL is worth more than a late 2nd. Col and EDM fans have bid late 1sts for him on here. SJS fans have made offers. How are we still talking about your joke bid?

It would surprise the s*** out of me if Washington trades Samsonov. That being said if Washington really dose try to trade him I would stay away far away. The kid has a ton of talent and since the Caps put up with all of Wilson's s***. So if the Caps try to trade him he has to be really F***** up.

Wow. Hot take. No.

This self-sealing argument of "I will get everything for free because if you want me to have it it must be worthless" is toxic and I'm going to stop offering the Wings players I think they need. As a fan who repeatedly said Panik would help you, I was shocked by the picks the Wings demanded to take him as a "cap dump." I was not surprised to see him finish the year on Detroit's top line because Detroit's team stinks and Panik doesn't.

You know who else doesn't stink? Samsonov. Bye.

Seriously dude what are you 12? Just about every Detroit forward was injured. So they had no choice but to play Panik so I'd hold of patting yourself on the back. Now Vrana had 8 goals in 11 games, how many did Mantha finish with? I am going to say thanks for getting knocked out in the first round because that 1st is now worth a lot more than i thought it would.

If all they can get is a 2nd, that's what they'll do. GM's don't pout, take their toys and go home. They are professionals. More likely they just trade Vanecek.

You're upset that the Red Wings demanded he be a cap dump? I think you mean you're upset with your GM for valuing him as such. Maybe you should put down the keyboard for a while you're not making any sense and you're finding offense where there's only reality.

You think I'm MacLellan? Thanks.



And you think I'm Ted? Nah. Just an internet addict. I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express one time, but that Sh&* was expensive.