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Theorizing Kuzys No Trade List

Created by: brady_t12
Initial Creation Date: May 30, 2021
Published: May 30 at 1:11
Team: 2021-22 Washington Capitals
Team Explanation
Kuznetsov has a 15 team NTC. Everyone wants to say "there's no way Kuznetsov waives to go there" on almost every team he's traded to, so let's talk about it.

No = Kuzy is NOT waiving
Yes = Kuzy WOULD waive
Trades
WSH
    ANA
      No.

      Rebuilding team, no real big Russian presences. Most likely a no-go.
      WSH
        ARI
          No.

          I'd imagine Kuznetsov has little to no interest in playing in Arizona. Hot and no Russians and perennial rebuilder.
          WSH
            BOS
              Yes.

              I could see Kuzy waiving to go to Boston and be the 2C behind Bergeron. Team is a contender most years and has a few great contracts in their top 6. Could win a cup here.
              WSH
                BUF
                  No.

                  I'm not explaining this one LOL
                  WSH
                    CGY
                      No.

                      From my understanding, Calgary doesn't really gravitate towards Russians, so this just feels like a no on all sides.
                      WSH
                        CAR
                          Yes.

                          Svechnikov and Kuzy? Sounds like a fun time.
                          WSH
                            CHI
                              No.

                              Rebuilding team, young centers are coming up to take the stage here. No Russian presences really.
                              WSH
                                COL
                                  Yes.

                                  I think Kuzy would be happy to play with Burky and Gruby again and would love to be on a cup contender.
                                  WSH
                                    CBJ
                                      No.

                                      While many people like to send him to Columbus in their AGM posts, it's pretty likely he doesn't want to go there. Stars keep leaving Columbus, so I doubt Kuzy wants to be there for four years.
                                      WSH
                                        DAL
                                          Yes.

                                          He would likely be paired with Gurianov here. I think Dallas is in a weird spot, but Kuzy could make them a contender. That being said, I don't see how Kuzy could get traded here. But he wouldn't block a trade.
                                          WSH
                                            DET
                                              No.

                                              I just don't think Kuzy wants to be on a rebuilding team. Maybe in a year or two he would allow a trade here, but no for now.
                                              WSH
                                                EDM
                                                  Yes.

                                                  I think Kuzy just doesn't block the trade here because he knows he's never getting traded here.
                                                  WSH
                                                    FLA
                                                      Yes.

                                                      Gets to play with Bob before he's bought out. Would be an amazing #2 center behind Barkov.
                                                      WSH
                                                        LAK
                                                          No.

                                                          Rebuilding team with too many good young centers coming up and no Russians. No interest from Kuzy.
                                                          WSH
                                                            MIN
                                                              Yes.

                                                              This one makes the most sense. An up and coming team with a young star Russian winger who needs a #1 center. This is Kuzy's dream spot.
                                                              WSH
                                                                MTL
                                                                  Yes.

                                                                  MTL needs a center if they lose Danault and they got Romanov on the back end. I can see him waiving to come here, easy.
                                                                  WSH
                                                                    NSH
                                                                      Yes.

                                                                      With the emergence of Trenin and with Askarov on his way up, Kuzy may want to play here. He will fit nicely with the other two 8 million dollar centers LOL
                                                                      WSH
                                                                        NJD
                                                                          No.

                                                                          On the edge with this one, but I think Kuzy knows he'd be in an odd spot if he ended up in New Jersey. Devils have their 1-2 down the middle, so it doesn't make sense for either party.
                                                                          WSH
                                                                            NYI
                                                                              No.

                                                                              Team culture here will be way too strict for Kuzy's liking. Could see him waiving though due to Trotz being here since he played his best hockey under Trotz.
                                                                              WSH
                                                                                NYR
                                                                                  Yes.

                                                                                  I'm sure he would love playing with Buchnevich and Panarin.
                                                                                  WSH
                                                                                    OTT
                                                                                      No.

                                                                                      Rebuilder with a couple good young centers on their way up. Maybe in a couple years, but not now.
                                                                                      WSH
                                                                                        PHI
                                                                                          Yes.

                                                                                          Even though they have plenty of centers or guys who can play center, Kuzy would waive here. Philly is a coin flip on being a contender each year. Provorov on the back end is a nice plus for Kuzy.
                                                                                          WSH
                                                                                            PIT
                                                                                              No.

                                                                                              I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that he would play in Pittsburgh with Malkin, but it just doesn't make sense for him to go here and play 3C. Trade wouldn't happen regardless.
                                                                                              WSH
                                                                                                SJS
                                                                                                  No.

                                                                                                  Mainly US and Canadian roster and in a bad state of limbo. There are pieces here that belong on contenders, but on awful contracts. Kuzy doesn't want any part of it, and I'm sure San Jose doesn't either regardless.
                                                                                                  WSH
                                                                                                    SEA
                                                                                                      Yes.

                                                                                                      Depending on the roster makeup here, Kuzy may be happy to give this one a try. He could be the undisputed no. 1 here and rejuvenate his career a bit. He won't get exposed in expansion, but a trade could make sense.
                                                                                                      WSH
                                                                                                        STL
                                                                                                          Yes.

                                                                                                          St. Louis is in a precarious spot right now, similar to the caps. Core is aging a bit but they're still contenders. I doubt they'd trade for Kuzy, but I'm sure he'd be happy to play with Tarasenko.
                                                                                                          WSH
                                                                                                            TBL
                                                                                                              Yes.

                                                                                                              It's not gonna happen, but Kuzy and Kuch would be deadly.
                                                                                                              WSH
                                                                                                                TOR
                                                                                                                  No.

                                                                                                                  Again, I'm sure no interest from either side. No Russian presence and you've already got two elite centers here.
                                                                                                                  WSH
                                                                                                                    VAN
                                                                                                                      Yes.

                                                                                                                      Plenty of ex-caps here already. Podkolzin is on his way up to the NHL soon. Kuzy would be happy to play here IMO, even with the logjam at center.
                                                                                                                      WSH
                                                                                                                        VGK
                                                                                                                          Yes.

                                                                                                                          Okay, I'll throw the "Kuzy's a cokehead!" crowd a bone.

                                                                                                                          Blow and babes all day every day.

                                                                                                                          Oh, yeah, and they might need a center.
                                                                                                                          WSH
                                                                                                                            WPG
                                                                                                                              No.

                                                                                                                              I just don't see Kuznetsov having any desire to be here. They have their young high end centers in Winnipeg and not much in the way of Russian players. Doesn't feel like a place Kuzy wants to be.
                                                                                                                              DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
                                                                                                                              2021
                                                                                                                              WSH
                                                                                                                              ARI
                                                                                                                              WSH
                                                                                                                              WSH
                                                                                                                              WSH
                                                                                                                              2022
                                                                                                                              WSH
                                                                                                                              WSH
                                                                                                                              WSH
                                                                                                                              WSH
                                                                                                                              WSH
                                                                                                                              WSH
                                                                                                                              2023
                                                                                                                              WSH
                                                                                                                              WSH
                                                                                                                              WSH
                                                                                                                              WSH
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                                                                                                                              WSH
                                                                                                                              WSH
                                                                                                                              ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
                                                                                                                              18$81,500,000$69,981,260$472,927$0$11,518,740
                                                                                                                              Left WingCenterRight Wing
                                                                                                                              WSH
                                                                                                                              Hagelin, Carl
                                                                                                                              $2,750,000
                                                                                                                              LW
                                                                                                                              UFA - 2
                                                                                                                              WSH
                                                                                                                              Bäckström, Nicklas
                                                                                                                              $9,200,000
                                                                                                                              C
                                                                                                                              NMC
                                                                                                                              UFA - 4
                                                                                                                              WSH
                                                                                                                              Oshie, T.J.
                                                                                                                              $5,750,000
                                                                                                                              RW, C
                                                                                                                              NTC
                                                                                                                              UFA - 4
                                                                                                                              WSH
                                                                                                                              Hathaway, Garnet
                                                                                                                              $1,500,000
                                                                                                                              LW, RW
                                                                                                                              UFA - 2
                                                                                                                              WSH
                                                                                                                              Kuznetsov, Evgeny
                                                                                                                              $7,800,000
                                                                                                                              C
                                                                                                                              NTC
                                                                                                                              UFA - 4
                                                                                                                              WSH
                                                                                                                              Mantha, Anthony
                                                                                                                              $5,700,000
                                                                                                                              RW, LW
                                                                                                                              UFA - 3
                                                                                                                              WSH
                                                                                                                              Sheary, Conor
                                                                                                                              $1,500,000
                                                                                                                              LW, RW
                                                                                                                              UFA - 2
                                                                                                                              WSH
                                                                                                                              Eller, Lars
                                                                                                                              $3,500,000
                                                                                                                              C
                                                                                                                              UFA - 2
                                                                                                                              WSH
                                                                                                                              Wilson, Tom
                                                                                                                              $5,166,666
                                                                                                                              RW
                                                                                                                              NTC
                                                                                                                              UFA - 3
                                                                                                                              WSH
                                                                                                                              Dowd, Nic
                                                                                                                              $750,000
                                                                                                                              C
                                                                                                                              UFA - 1
                                                                                                                              WSH
                                                                                                                              Sprong, Daniel
                                                                                                                              $725,000
                                                                                                                              RW
                                                                                                                              RFA - 1
                                                                                                                              Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
                                                                                                                              WSH
                                                                                                                              Orlov, Dmitry
                                                                                                                              $5,100,000
                                                                                                                              LD/RD
                                                                                                                              NTC
                                                                                                                              UFA - 2
                                                                                                                              WSH
                                                                                                                              Carlson, John
                                                                                                                              $8,000,000
                                                                                                                              RD
                                                                                                                              NTC
                                                                                                                              UFA - 5
                                                                                                                              WSH
                                                                                                                              Vanecek, Vitek
                                                                                                                              $716,667
                                                                                                                              G
                                                                                                                              RFA - 1
                                                                                                                              WSH
                                                                                                                              Dillon, Brenden
                                                                                                                              $3,900,000
                                                                                                                              LD
                                                                                                                              UFA - 3
                                                                                                                              WSH
                                                                                                                              Schultz, Justin
                                                                                                                              $4,000,000
                                                                                                                              RD
                                                                                                                              UFA - 1
                                                                                                                              WSH
                                                                                                                              Jensen, Nick
                                                                                                                              $2,500,000
                                                                                                                              RD
                                                                                                                              UFA - 2
                                                                                                                              WSH
                                                                                                                              van Riemsdyk, Trevor
                                                                                                                              $950,000
                                                                                                                              RD
                                                                                                                              UFA - 2
                                                                                                                              ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
                                                                                                                              WSH
                                                                                                                              Kempný, Michal
                                                                                                                              $2,500,000
                                                                                                                              LD
                                                                                                                              UFA - 1

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                                                                                                                              May 30 at 1:18
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                                                                                                                              Edited May 30 at 1:29
                                                                                                                              To consolidate, here are the theorized potential trade partners:

                                                                                                                              BOS
                                                                                                                              CAR
                                                                                                                              COL
                                                                                                                              DAL
                                                                                                                              EDM
                                                                                                                              FLA
                                                                                                                              MIN
                                                                                                                              MTL
                                                                                                                              NSH
                                                                                                                              NYR
                                                                                                                              PHI
                                                                                                                              SEA
                                                                                                                              STL
                                                                                                                              TB
                                                                                                                              VAN
                                                                                                                              VGK

                                                                                                                              Just to make this clear, this is not a list of teams it would make sense for them to acquire Kuznetsov. Trades to half of these teams would never happen with the current rosters they have. But this is where I believe Kuzy would waive to go to.
                                                                                                                              May 30 at 1:25
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                                                                                                                              You blocked San Jose twice btw.

                                                                                                                              As for Columbus, they have a pretty good mix of russians in their lineup plus a player similar to Ovi to build easy chemistry with. As it stands I dont thibk Jones want to resign right now but that doesnt mean he wants out either. Columbus could bring in a solid coach thay will make players happier there. To summarize I dont entirely think he wpuld nlock them as an option
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                                                                                                                              Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
                                                                                                                              You blocked San Jose twice btw.

                                                                                                                              As for Columbus, they have a pretty good mix of russians in their lineup plus a player similar to Ovi to build easy chemistry with. As it stands I dont thibk Jones want to resign right now but that doesnt mean he wants out either. Columbus could bring in a solid coach thay will make players happier there. To summarize I dont entirely think he wpuld nlock them as an option


                                                                                                                              Whoops, the first time I went over this, I accidentally skipped over Pittsburgh and went to San Jose. I forgot to delete the first San Jose to keep it in alphabetical order and now my count is a little off. I'll fix that.
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                                                                                                                              Kuzy is such an enigma to me. We make a ton of sense but I'd hate it if we ended up with an $8M 60 point center that's lazy in their own zone... On the flip side I'd love it if he had a resurgence in his career and returned to PPG form
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                                                                                                                              Quoting: TanSor
                                                                                                                              Kuzy is such an enigma to me. We make a ton of sense but I'd hate it if we ended up with an $8M 60 point center that's lazy in their own zone.


                                                                                                                              Honestly, after watching the way Kaprizov plays, it wouldn't surprise me if the two of them absolutely blew up together. Kuzy has been on a decline, so they could get him for a very fair/cheap price. I think he will be well worth the 7.8M cap hit for the next four seasons, especially next to Kaprizov. I truly think he will bounce back. His second half of the season was much better than the first half.
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                                                                                                                              Kuzy would waive to Philly but Philly wouldn't really want him due to his contract and to the fact that our center core is good enough as what it is now.
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                                                                                                                              Why does he need other Russians on his team?
                                                                                                                              He has been in US for 7 years, plenty of time to acculturate.

                                                                                                                              He should be going to where he can play top-6 role
                                                                                                                              (and stay out of trouble).

                                                                                                                              I'd think some of ascendant teams (OTT, ANA) would be more interesting to some that may be hitting a down stretch (STL, PHI)
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                                                                                                                              I think MINN makes the most sense, they don't have a 1C really and him and Kaprisov could be dangerous. I have been saying Schenn for Kuzy for a few days now. Blues have a few Russian forwards in Tarasenko, Barbashev, and Kostin as well.
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                                                                                                                              Quoting: HikinenNisti
                                                                                                                              Kuzy would waive to Philly but Philly wouldn't really want him due to his contract and to the fact that our center core is good enough as what it is now.


                                                                                                                              I agree, it wouldn't make sense for him to go to Philly. Plenty of guys there who can play center and you don't need another 8M forward.
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                                                                                                                              Quoting: NHLfan10506
                                                                                                                              Why does he need other Russians on his team?
                                                                                                                              He has been in US for 7 years, plenty of time to acculturate.

                                                                                                                              He should be going to where he can play top-6 role
                                                                                                                              (and stay out of trouble).

                                                                                                                              I'd think some of ascendant teams (OTT, ANA) would be more interesting to some that may be hitting a down stretch (STL, PHI)


                                                                                                                              I could see Ottawa. I don't think he NEEDS Russians on the destination team, but I think he would much prefer it. He gravitates towards Russians (Ovi, Orlov, and Sammy are like his best friends here in DC).
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                                                                                                                              Quoting: RClay321
                                                                                                                              I think MINN makes the most sense, they don't have a 1C really and him and Kaprisov could be dangerous. I have been saying Schenn for Kuzy for a few days now. Blues have a few Russian forwards in Tarasenko, Barbashev, and Kostin as well.


                                                                                                                              Schenn for Kuzy one for one? Or with one side adding?
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                                                                                                                              Quoting: brady_t12
                                                                                                                              I agree, it wouldn't make sense for him to go to Philly. Plenty of guys there who can play center and you don't need another 8M forward.


                                                                                                                              Especially with Hayes already eating 7 million of our salary.
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                                                                                                                              Seems very thought out and realistic

                                                                                                                              Imo the top destination for Kuzy are Vegas, Minnesota, NYR
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                                                                                                                              Quoting: brady_t12
                                                                                                                              Schenn for Kuzy one for one? Or with one side adding?


                                                                                                                              blues might have to add a little
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                                                                                                                              Quoting: Devil1122
                                                                                                                              Seems very thought out and realistic

                                                                                                                              Imo the top destination for Kuzy are Vegas, Minnesota, NYR


                                                                                                                              Thank you! I wanted to put some time into it and see what others thought.

                                                                                                                              Minnesota seems to be the most realistic destination. I think the caps will try to avoid trading within the division but I could see Kuznetsov being happy there in New York. And Vegas is a little cap-strapped, so that's a tossup to me.

                                                                                                                              Depending on what Seattle does this offseason, they could be an interesting trade partner too.
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                                                                                                                              Quoting: RClay321
                                                                                                                              blues might have to add a little


                                                                                                                              Honestly I just looked at his stats and I'd do that trade one for one.

                                                                                                                              Only issue is that Schenn has a full NTC it looks like. I'm not sure he waives after signing an 8 year deal in STL. I'd be happy to have him though.
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                                                                                                                              Quoting: brady_t12
                                                                                                                              To consolidate, here are the theorized potential trade partners:

                                                                                                                              BOS
                                                                                                                              CAR
                                                                                                                              COL
                                                                                                                              DAL
                                                                                                                              EDM
                                                                                                                              FLA
                                                                                                                              MIN
                                                                                                                              MTL
                                                                                                                              NSH
                                                                                                                              NYR
                                                                                                                              PHI
                                                                                                                              SEA
                                                                                                                              STL
                                                                                                                              TB
                                                                                                                              VAN
                                                                                                                              VGK

                                                                                                                              Just to make this clear, this is not a list of teams it would make sense for them to acquire Kuznetsov. Trades to half of these teams would never happen with the current rosters they have. But this is where I believe Kuzy would waive to go to.


                                                                                                                              Great summary.

                                                                                                                              Can see it happening...
                                                                                                                              DAL - Kinda makes sense
                                                                                                                              MIN - Agree, good fit
                                                                                                                              NYR - Maybe as Eichel consolation prize
                                                                                                                              VGK - Purely for on-ice needs

                                                                                                                              Maybe add...
                                                                                                                              ANA - Team on upswing...maybe more likely as 2022 move
                                                                                                                              OTT - Tons of cap space and spot as top-6 center

                                                                                                                              Can't see it happening...
                                                                                                                              BOS - I'd think doubtful if Krejci returns
                                                                                                                              CAR - Caps would need to take some cap back (I'm assuming they re-up with Hamilton)
                                                                                                                              COL
                                                                                                                              EDM
                                                                                                                              FLA - Not until Barkov gets extended
                                                                                                                              MTL
                                                                                                                              NSH
                                                                                                                              PHI - They need to be selling some of their big ticket forwards first
                                                                                                                              SEA
                                                                                                                              STL - exiting their window
                                                                                                                              TB - No cap
                                                                                                                              VAN - Need cap for RFAs
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                                                                                                                              Quoting: NHLfan10506
                                                                                                                              Great summary.

                                                                                                                              Can see it happening...
                                                                                                                              DAL - Kinda makes sense
                                                                                                                              MIN - Agree, good fit
                                                                                                                              NYR - Maybe as Eichel consolation prize
                                                                                                                              VGK - Purely for on-ice needs

                                                                                                                              Maybe add...
                                                                                                                              ANA - Team on upswing...maybe more likely as 2022 move
                                                                                                                              OTT - Tons of cap space and spot as top-6 center

                                                                                                                              Can't see it happening...
                                                                                                                              BOS - I'd think doubtful if Krejci returns
                                                                                                                              CAR - Caps would need to take some cap back (I'm assuming they re-up with Hamilton)
                                                                                                                              COL
                                                                                                                              EDM
                                                                                                                              FLA - Not until Barkov gets extended
                                                                                                                              MTL
                                                                                                                              NSH
                                                                                                                              PHI - They need to be selling some of their big ticket forwards first
                                                                                                                              SEA
                                                                                                                              STL - exiting their window
                                                                                                                              TB - No cap
                                                                                                                              VAN - Need cap for RFAs


                                                                                                                              Agreed for the most part on your evaluation. I could see St. Louis making a move if they wanted to trade Schenn for some reason (I doubt that happens). Boston is such an outside pick but I agree it's possible depending on the Krejci contract. I think Ottawa is a little more likely than Anaheim, but totally get the reasoning for both.
                                                                                                                              May 30 at 2:34
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                                                                                                                              I wonder who would offer the best most realistic offer for Kuzy? Ive seen non Caps fans offers and Caps fans offer and there is a disparaging gap.

                                                                                                                              I think non Caps fans expect to get him for a song while many Caps fans think hes full value (He is not) As always i think the truth is somewhere in the middle.

                                                                                                                              As for value, it'll depend on what Wsh prefers. Cap space or quality. If its cap space meaning the offering team sends little to no cap back, itll be less than what Caps fans think IMHO. Not nothing, but definitely less than ive seen on some CF trades. If they are willing to take back equal or close to equal cap+term, i think they'll get the good prospect and 1st rounder +.
                                                                                                                               
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