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What would you pay for hometown boy and former 2nd overall pick Nolan Patrick

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Team: 2020-21 Winnipeg Jets
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I hear he wants out of Philly :/

He has changed agents and will be asking for a trade in the offseason :(
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    Jun. 4, 2021 at 4:09 p.m.
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    I would be ok with flipping prospects like Vesalainen...decent but has never been given a chance....so VESA and the CBJ 3rd???

    Dunno what Philly will want
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    Jun. 4, 2021 at 4:09 p.m.
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    Makar could have looked awfully nice on PHI
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    Jun. 4, 2021 at 4:10 p.m.
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    Yeah, sounds like he's done, done there. I thought it was more like a 'wouldn't mind a change of scenery type thing', but I guess not.
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    Jun. 4, 2021 at 4:12 p.m.
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    The question is not what you would be willing to pay, but what Philly wants in return. My understanding is they’re not settling for draft picks unless it’s a pretty good one. Patrick needs to go to a team that will give him an opportunity and ice time. Is Winnipeg really in a position to do that? With Scheifele and Dubois at center Patrick would immediately be relegated to third line time. Is that really good enough? With Giroux getting older Philly will need a replacement, and I always thought Patrick was that guy. Maybe they have no intention of letting him go.
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    Jun. 4, 2021 at 4:12 p.m.
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    Based on his play last season, this might sound controversial, but I personally wouldn't give up more than the equivalent of a 3rd rounder if I'm a GM.
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    Jun. 4, 2021 at 4:13 p.m.
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    The Jets shouldn't and hopefully wouldn't give much of anything. They don't need Patrick, so they should have no interest.
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    Jun. 4, 2021 at 4:13 p.m.
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    Winnipeg is not the place for him. Throw out the "hometown aspect" and are you still interested in the player at all? Likely not. Injury issues and lack of consistency have severely lowered his valued. Maybe a late 2nd or early 3rd and a mediocre prospect at best. But Patrick doesn't fit into Winnipeg's top 9 at all, and honestly he's not suited for a 4th line role at all. There's just no where to put him.

    Jets won't be interested in Patrick.
    Jun. 4, 2021 at 4:14 p.m.
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    I would be ok with flipping prospects like Vesalainen...decent but has never been given a chance....so VESA and the CBJ 3rd???

    Dunno what Philly will want


    That seems like a fair deal to me. But I’m sure Philly would say no. Patrick won’t have a ton of value after the health issues and wanting out. So maybe it’s enough? I don’t think he fits with the Jets. Not a lot of space for him.
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    Jun. 4, 2021 at 4:14 p.m.
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    The question is not what you would be willing to pay, but what Philly wants in return. My understanding is they’re not settling for draft picks unless it’s a pretty good one. Patrick needs to go to a team that will give him an opportunity and ice time. Is Winnipeg really in a position to do that? With Scheifele and Dubois at center Patrick would immediately be relegated to third line time. Is that really good enough?


    3rd line? Seriously? ... that's Lowry's spot. & 4th line can be filled by good veterans to play a role. Winnipeg isn't an option for Patrick.
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    Jun. 4, 2021 at 4:15 p.m.
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    With his concussion and migraine issues, his value is next to nothing.
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    Jun. 4, 2021 at 4:16 p.m.
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    3rd line? Seriously? ... that's Lowry's spot. & 4th line can be filled by good veterans to play a role. Winnipeg isn't an option for Patrick.

    That was kind of my point. They already have players filling roles on their roster that they don’t need him for.
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    3rd line? Seriously? ... that's Lowry's spot. & 4th line can be filled by good veterans to play a role. Winnipeg isn't an option for Patrick.


    Isn't Lowry the C? Patrick plays W too.
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    Jun. 4, 2021 at 4:16 p.m.
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    Quoting: Tjm220
    The question is not what you would be willing to pay, but what Philly wants in return. My understanding is they’re not settling for draft picks unless it’s a pretty good one. Patrick needs to go to a team that will give him an opportunity and ice time. Is Winnipeg really in a position to do that? With Scheifele and Dubois at center Patrick would immediately be relegated to third line time. Is that really good enough?


    He's done absolutely nothing to justify getting anything more than that. The vast majority of teams in the league have two centers more capable/proven than Patrick. He's gonna have to earn what he gets pretty much anywhere he might go.
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    Jun. 4, 2021 at 4:17 p.m.
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    Isn't he now eligible for an offer sheet? I wouldn't pay more than $1.5M/year for him, which would be a 4th rounder.
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    Jun. 4, 2021 at 4:19 p.m.
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    Quoting: DirtyDangles
    Isn't Lowry the C? Patrick plays W too.


    ... I just said that Lowry was the 3C. And I don't think anyone right now takes Patrick over any of Connor, Wheeler, Ehlers, Copp, Appleton, or Perreault. So even on the wing Patrick is relegated to the 4th line.
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    Jun. 4, 2021 at 4:19 p.m.
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    A 3rd but I don't see why WPG would be after him with Scheifele, Dubois, Copp and Lowry at C.
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    Jun. 4, 2021 at 4:20 p.m.
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    Isn't he now eligible for an offer sheet? I wouldn't pay more than $1.5M/year for him, which would be a 4th rounder.


    $1.5M is actually a 3rd round pick as compensation. There is not compensation the involves a 4th round pick
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    Jun. 4, 2021 at 4:21 p.m.
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    Isn't he now eligible for an offer sheet? I wouldn't pay more than $1.5M/year for him, which would be a 4th rounder.

    That’s reasonable. But I would expect Philadelphia would match any offer that only yields a fourth round in compensation. If his value is that low then I would say the first team that offers a second round pick might be the one that gets him. But again, they have to be a team that has a spot for him. Personally, I see him where Casey Mittelstadt was a year ago. He came to camp ready to prove himself and proved to be one of the Buffalo’s most effective players through the entire season. Patrick and Mittelstadt have a similar skill set, Patrick’s future maybe as a winger though.
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    Jun. 4, 2021 at 4:22 p.m.
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    Quoting: TrueCanuck
    $1.5M is actually a 3rd round pick as compensation. There is not compensation the involves a 4th round pick


    Thanks, sorry, so yes a third-round pick.
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    Jun. 4, 2021 at 4:23 p.m.
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    That’s reasonable. But I would expect Philadelphia would match any offer that only yields a fourth round in compensation. If his value is that low then I would say the first team that offers a second round pick might be the one that gets him. But again, they have to be a team that has a spot for him. Personally, I see him where Casey Mittelstadt was a year ago. He came to camp ready to prove himself and proved to be one of the Buffalo’s most effective players through the entire season. Patrick and Mittelstadt have a similar skill set, Patrick’s future maybe as a winger though.


    I agree, although apparently, I was incorrect, it's actually a 3rd rounder, which is somewhat fair if it's a bottom 10 team.
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    Jun. 4, 2021 at 4:25 p.m.
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    Vesalainen or Demelo?
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    I agree, although apparently, I was incorrect, it's actually a 3rd rounder, which is somewhat fair if it's a bottom 10 team.

    Yeah, I still expect Philadelphia would match any offer sheet that only gets them a third round pick. They would probably hold out for a second round pick in a trade. That is unless they are holding out for a prospect that will help them more than a draft pick.
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    Jun. 4, 2021 at 4:27 p.m.
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    Yeah, I still expect Philadelphia would match any offer sheet that only gets them a third round pick. They would probably hold out for a second round pick in a trade. That is unless they are holding out for a prospect that will help them more than a draft pick.


    I would want my team to do the same.
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    Jun. 4, 2021 at 4:38 p.m.
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    With Wpg having such a tricky expansion situation I'd imagine some type of deal that involves that process would be needed but I'm not sure what it'd be
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    Jun. 4, 2021 at 4:38 p.m.
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    Patrick has okay upside still as he has been strugling with injuries and such his whole career. If he ever gets back on track he may be a great player yet.

    I would consider trading a 3rd or 4th round pick and a long-shot prospect

    Or would you consider Dano for Patrick 1 for 1?
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