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Created by: fangm
Team: 2020-21 Buffalo Sabres
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 5, 2021
Published: Jun. 5, 2021
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
BUF
  1. Hållander, Filip
  2. Hirvonen, Roni [Reserve List]
  3. Marner, Mitchell
  4. Niemelä, Topi [Reserve List]
  5. 2021 2nd round pick (TOR)
TOR
  1. Eichel, Jack ($2,000,000 retained)
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Eichel is better than Marner and plays C so 100% has more value, if you think otherwise then you are simply wrong.

That being said if Eichel demands a trade the leverage is limited and most teams will offer at most:
A prospect + 2 B prospect + 1st+ 2nd. I'd be shocked to see any team offer more than that for a player who has caused some headaches for his organization, is injured and hasn't made the playoffs. (Still a top 10 NHL player but has shortcomings)

Starting with the finances, if the deal takes place after July 1st, Buffalo takes on 900k against the cap for 4 years and frees up a 5th year. They also save $15.2M in real cash even with $2M per season retained. So for a club with an internal cap that can't hire staff at the moments it is a lot of money.

Going to the hockey: Toronto gets a top 10 player at a cheap cap hit for 5 years.

Buffalo gets a play that finished top 5 in NHL scoring. You can't completely go for future given the money invested in Skinner and others today so this gives hope that the team can become a playoff contender in the next 2-3 years with Marner/Skinner under contract. You also get 2 prospects rated in the top 100 in the NHL by NHL.com. Both played last year in Europe and are expected to become NHLer. Hallander also played last year and could be a good 3C in the future, a bit riskier than Niemela and Hirvonen. The 2nd adds to a pool of picks to try and find some gems in a lottery of a draft.

Overall Toronto gets better and saves 2M vs the cap.
Buffalo saves $15.2M in cash, swaps a Top 10 NHL player for a Top 25 NHL player and picks up two B+ prospects and one B- prospect along with a second.
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2021
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2022
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2023
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
27$81,500,000$78,766,291$1,487,500$4,652,500$2,733,709
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$9,000,000$9,000,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 7
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
C
UFA - 2
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$3,050,000$3,050,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
C
UFA - 3
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$5,200,000$5,200,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$1,600,000$1,600,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C, LW
UFA - 3
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$700,000$700,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$874,125$874,125
LW, C
RFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
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$845,000$845,000
LW, C
RFA - 1
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$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
UFA - 5
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$764,167$764,167 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
C
RFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,850,000$3M)
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$5,400,000$5,400,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
G
UFA - 1
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$889,166$889,166
LD/RD
RFA - 2
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$3,875,000$3,875,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$2,600,000$2,600,000
G
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$637,500$638K)
RD
RFA - 1
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$778,333$778,333 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
G
RFA - 2
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$864,166$864,166
RD
UFA - 1
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$725,000$725,000
G
UFA - 2
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$700,000$700,000
G
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$2,850,000$2,850,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$2,200,000$2,200,000
LW, C
UFA - 3
Taxi Squad
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$700,000$700,000 ($0$0$0$0)
LD
UFA - 1

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Jun. 5, 2021 at 5:25 p.m.
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If im buffalo I'm not retaining a penny. Marner is already 10 million.
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Jun. 5, 2021 at 5:29 p.m.
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Quoting: Jfstompers
If im buffalo I'm not retaining a penny. Marner is already 10 million.


Not in real cash, in real cash he is $6.2M over 4 years. And Buffalo doesn't spend to the cap so having Marner + retained salary taking up $12.9M doesn't matter to them if they are only paying $8.2M between Eichel's retained money and Marner's salary.
Jun. 5, 2021 at 5:35 p.m.
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Quoting: fangm
Not in real cash, in real cash he is $6.2M over 4 years. And Buffalo doesn't spend to the cap so having Marner + retained salary taking up $12.9M doesn't matter to them if they are only paying $8.2M between Eichel's retained money and Marner's salary.


I think it's more likely that the leafs want to offload another salary player. But if the leafs are serious about winning then they do this deal even if it costs them multiple prospects.
Jun. 5, 2021 at 5:38 p.m.
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No thank you. Those other parts don't make up for the difference AND retention
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Jun. 5, 2021 at 5:42 p.m.
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Not in real cash, in real cash he is $6.2M over 4 years. And Buffalo doesn't spend to the cap so having Marner + retained salary taking up $12.9M doesn't matter to them if they are only paying $8.2M between Eichel's retained money and Marner's salary.


Where did you get 6.2 it looks like 8 at the very lowest
Jun. 5, 2021 at 5:47 p.m.
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Not in real cash, in real cash he is $6.2M over 4 years. And Buffalo doesn't spend to the cap so having Marner + retained salary taking up $12.9M doesn't matter to them if they are only paying $8.2M between Eichel's retained money and Marner's salary.


Buffalo does spend to the cap, our gm was doing cap acrobatics to not get pinched. I think we had at least 2 games where we dressed 11 forwards. Our owner wouldnt let adams go over the cap, which we could have done if we placed mccabe or eichel on ltir, but for an amazingly bad team, we spent a ton of money. And ill second or third the sabres fans that said no chance we retain on eichel. I also like to look at it like that 2m cap hit gets tacked on to marner, so he would be costing us 12.5 in cap. Pass.
Jun. 5, 2021 at 7:05 p.m.
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Lmao off. This would be an extremely dumb move by the sabres. It's marner and scraps for an 8 million eichel. 🤣
 
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