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If the Leafs wanted to move Marner

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Team: 2021-22 Washington Capitals
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 5, 2021
Published: Jun. 5, 2021
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and if the Caps wanter to move Wilson and Kuznetsov...

Leafs side here: https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/2447571
although maybe move JT to 1L and go Tavares, Matthews, Wilson, followed by Hyman, Kuznetsov, and Nylander.
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Not the most likely scenario. Just showing that WSH basically has cap space for this move, if they have any interest.
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Jun. 5, 2021 at 7:14 p.m.
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TOR would lose Vanecek to Seattle, so I don't see huge interest from their side.
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Jun. 5, 2021 at 7:26 p.m.
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Edited Jun. 5, 2021 at 7:41 p.m.
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TOR would lose Vanecek to Seattle, so I don't see huge interest from their side.


Because you think Seattle is touching Campbell with a ten foot pole?

eta: Kerfoot is 26, was on pace for his third 40 pt season, got 6 points in the playoffs this Spring, and is still likely exposed because of cap space. Could be SLE's #2C. Campbell might be the 4th best 29+ year old goalie available to SLE, behind Holtby (with a mid pick in expansion draft), Allen (with a mid pick in expansion draft), and Andersen as a UFA 3G they don't need. Dermott or Holl could also tempt Seattle, but from the Kraken posts I've seen, they'll be deep on defense and thin at center.
Jun. 5, 2021 at 7:39 p.m.
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Because you think Seattle is touching Campbell with a ten foot pole?


No, but because Dubas and majority of TOR fans are balls deep in Campbell after last season.
Jun. 5, 2021 at 7:49 p.m.
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Not even considered by Toronto.

Leafs aren't trading a young, top 5 scorer that plays well defensively too for a guy that can't stay out of the leagues suspension office, a declining/overpaid centre with off-ice drug addiction problems, and a dime a dozen goalie. On top of that you want Toronto to add 2 quality prospects? ... easy pass any day of the week.
Jun. 5, 2021 at 7:51 p.m.
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No, but because Dubas and majority of TOR fans are (emotionally invested) in Campbell after last season.


Fair enough. And if we're going by how highly Dubas praises guys, Marner is going to retire a Leaf. And so will Liljegren. smile

I kinda see this as a win for Tor, with a top six of JT, AM, Wilson, Hyman, Kuznetsov, Nylander. WSH, above, is missing a #2C until one of their prospects steps up. That could cost them a playoff spot next year, but might make them better, after that?
Jun. 5, 2021 at 7:56 p.m.
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Fair enough. And if we're going by how highly Dubas praises guys, Marner is going to retire a Leaf. And so will Liljegren. smile

I kinda see this as a win for Tor, with a top six of JT, AM, Wilson, Hyman, Kuznetsov, Nylander. WSH, above, is missing a #2C until one of their prospects steps up. That could cost them a playoff spot next year, but might make them better, after that?


I see it as a loss for both teams. TOR gets older, lose cap and also take in an asset they'd just lose almost immediately, WSH adds bunch of youth and a playoff loser they really don't need or want as to be fair their latest playoffs runs after the cup win have gone very, very south.
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Jun. 5, 2021 at 8:54 p.m.
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I see it as a loss for both teams. TOR gets older, lose cap and also take in an asset they'd just lose almost immediately, WSH adds bunch of youth and a playoff loser they really don't need or want as to be fair their latest playoffs runs after the cup win have gone very, very south.


That's a reasonable take. The way I was looking at it is that Tor is a little bit soft and unmotivated, and WSH is kind of old and slow, and they each fix those issues, here, by a lot.
Jun. 5, 2021 at 9:00 p.m.
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That's a reasonable take. The way I was looking at it is that Tor is a little bit soft and unmotivated, and WSH is kind of old and slow, and they each fix those issues, here, by a lot.


To be fair imo WSH looked the most unmotivated team in the 2019 bubble playoffs. And Kuzy couldn't manage anything this year either.
Jun. 5, 2021 at 9:10 p.m.
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To be fair imo WSH looked the most unmotivated team in the 2019 bubble playoffs. And Kuzy couldn't manage anything this year either.


Yep. When the team doesn't show up, they don't show up together. But in the 2018 playoffs, Kuznetsov and Wilson were pretty good. As for Kuznetsov's 1 point in the series against Boston, Boston's a really good defensive team and Kuznetsov rushed back from CoViD because Eller was injured and the team was auditioning different rookie centers. I could certainly see Toronto deciding to give their home-town kid more chances, if they think he's the guy that drives their success. But if they think he's benefitted from playing with two elite goal scoring centers for years, and JT is starting to decline, then they might try to sell high on Marner while he's riding great offensive totals, and try to turn him into three guys they need: a speedy second line center, a second Zach Hyman, and a starting goalie. But like you said, they'd have to accept the risk of losing Campbell.
Jun. 5, 2021 at 9:17 p.m.
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Yep. When the team doesn't show up, they don't show up together. But in the 2018 playoffs, Kuznetsov and Wilson were pretty good. As for Kuznetsov's 1 point in the series against Boston, Boston's a really good defensive team and Kuznetsov rushed back from CoViD because Eller was injured and the team was auditioning different rookie centers. I could certainly see Toronto deciding to give their home-town kid more chances, if they think he's the guy that drives their success. But if they think he's benefitted from playing with two elite goal scoring centers for years, and JT is starting to decline, then they might try to sell high on Marner while he's riding great offensive totals, and try to turn him into three guys they need: a speedy second line center, a second Zach Hyman, and a starting goalie. But like you said, they'd have to accept the risk of losing Campbell.


They'd protect Campbell even with Vanecek in the team.

Also I don't think the 2018 cup performance has much merit in 2022.

Furthermore, after constantly fading in the playoffs, I don't think Leafs are able to sell high on Marner. That contract is just dreadful.
 
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