U guys just love losing trades left and right eh?

Buffalo doesn't have leverage on any trade they make unfortunately.

Why Pettersson is suddenly a bad contract?

1. Penguins want another team to take Petterson off their hands.

2. Overpaid defenceman that is 6th/7th on their depth chart and who fell out of favour with Coach Sully very quickly during the playoffs.

3. Pierre Olivier Joseph is an obvious replacement for Petterson next season.

4. Penguins are one of a handful of teams in the NHL that will be over the cap if nothing changes.

5. Teddy Blueger, ZAR and a few others will be needing pay raises.

6. Petterson will be left unprotected regardless and is under contract until 2025.

7. The 2nd round pick will be in the 50s.

Canucks definitely say yes

I mean I kinda see the need for moving Pettersson, but I don't think he's negative value. Coach doesn't like him, but imo he's still a decent player. I can see some team offering a 3rd for the guy or something like that.

That, or something what CHI did with Määttä last year. But I don't think PIT has to pay to move Pettersson.

Also PIT will likely make some money with the ExD pick, that'll most likely be Zucker.

U guys really love losing 1st round playoff series left and right eh?

I don't care if Vancouver "really likes" Kent Johnson, they absolutely do not get Reinhart without the 2021 1st

I hate my team rn but ur a sabres fan and u know u can’t talk 😂

Vancouver more likely to move next year on a big contract

They do, and these are still awful given your context

The voting on "Who won the trade?" for the Staal, Montour and Hall trades says otherwise

Loui Eriksson 2.0

We are nowhere near the cap floor. And Nobody takes garbage contracts "to get to the cap floor". I would have thought as a sens fan you would have known that, but, yeah.

:'(

What were wrong with those trades? Hall and his NMC lowered his value. Bjork is a good defensive winger.

Staal, Montour and Hall were terrible. Hall was sleepwalking every night

Everybody was expecting a 1st for Hall and two 2nds for Staal/Montour.

Ottawa took on the garbage contracts of Cedric Paquette and Braydon Coburn and got a 2nd round pick from it.

The day before that, we paid a 2nd round pick to take on Derek Stepan's cap hit of 6.5 million (something I'm still puzzled about today).

Earlier than that, we also spent picks taking on the garbage contracts of Josh Brown, Erik Gudbranson and Austin Watson.



The cap floor is 60.25 million and it says in this ACGM post that the cap hit on the Sabres is at a little over 63 million.

You say the Sabres are nowhere near the cap floor, so I have no idea what you're looking at :/

I based the Reinhart trade off of the Mark Stone trade between Ottawa and Vegas.


Buffalo gets the closest thing that Vancouver has to Erik Brannstrom, which is Olli Juolevi.

Buffalo also gets a 1st round pick for next year with no lottery protection as opposed to a pick right at the bottom of the 2nd round.



Sam Reinhart has one more season under team control while Mark Stone was a pending UFA at the trade deadline.

If the Ottawa Senators' brain trust led by Pierre Dorion thought the Mark Stone trade was fair, then this Sam Reinhart trade is probably fair too.

Next year's draft is supposed to have a much higher quality draft class than this year's, so it's something to look forward to

Montour is one of the worst defenseman in the league. Staal is also one of the worst players in the league.

If that's true, then Buffalo should not have gotten anything more than two conditional 7th round picks in those two trades.



For Montour and Staal, Buffalo got at least two 3rd round picks.



Yet, for some reason, many people on this site voted for the other team on "Who won the trade?" with respect to Staal and Montour.

https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/438850

https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/433023


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https://twitter.com/jfreshhockey/status/1380931852186361859?s=21

Montour's defensive performance on the ice was obviously deteriorating by the time he was traded from Anaheim.

However, it's important to note what was also going on surrounding Montour.



Two weeks before Montour was traded to Buffalo, Anaheim's General Manager fired the Head Coach and decided to play the role as both Head Coach/General Manager.

This was the first season where the Ducks started tanking and went into the rebuild that they are still in today.

They lost a bunch of other key pieces like Corey Perry, Andrew Cogliano and Marcus Pettersson.

All of this had to have affected Montour's performance on the ice.




Nevertheless, Buffalo spent a 1st + a prospect on him when he was still under team control.

Then, he was traded a couple of years later for a 3rd when he was a pending UFA.




At the end of the day, what Buffalo and Florida were trading for when they got Montour was what he could produce offensively.

Even the thread from Jfreshhockey says "his production has been decent".

Ultimately, when you trade for someone or sign them to a contract, you look for the good things they can do on the ice while taking into account their shortcomings.

After the pros and cons are weighed, the decision is made