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2021 offseason talks thread

Jul. 30, 2021 at 4:14 p.m.
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2021-22 Standings projections according to the WAR roster builder

Pacific
1-VGK 112 pts
2-SEA 99 pts
3-CGY 99 pts
4- EDM 96 pts
5- VAN 96 pts
6- SJS 87 pts
7- LAK 86 pts
8- ANA 71 pts

Central
1-COL 119
2-STL 100
3-WPG 97
4-MIN 97
5-CHI 93
6-DAL 88
7-NSH 87
8-ARI 75

Metropolitan
1-PHI 100 pts
2-NYR 100 pts
3-PIT 98 pts
4-CAR 96 pts
5-WSH 95 pts
6-NYI 90
7- NJD 89
8- CBJ 78

Atlantic
1-TBL 111 pts
2-TOR 109 pts
3-FLA 102 pts
4-BOS 102 pts
5-MTL 90 pts
6-BUF 81 pts
7-DET 79 pts
8- OTT 72 pts
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Jul. 30, 2021 at 4:16 p.m.
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Quoting: SevenLeg
2021-22 Standings projections according to the WAR roster builder

Pacific
1-VGK 112 pts
2-SEA 99 pts
3-CGY 99 pts
4- EDM 96 pts
5- VAN 96 pts
6- SJS 87 pts
7- LAK 86 pts
8- ANA 71 pts

Central
1-COL 119
2-STL 100
3-WPG 97
4-MIN 97
5-CHI 93
6-DAL 88
7-NSH 87
8-ARI 75

Metropolitan
1-PHI 100 pts
2-NYR 100 pts
3-PIT 98 pts
4-CAR 96 pts
5-WSH 95 pts
6-NYI 90
7- NJD 89
8- CBJ 78

Atlantic
1-TBL 111 pts
2-TOR 109 pts
3-FLA 102 pts
4-BOS 102 pts
5-MTL 90 pts
6-BUF 81 pts
7-DET 79 pts
8- OTT 72 pts


How’s Buffalo better than Ottawa/Detroit?
Jul. 30, 2021 at 4:17 p.m.
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Quoting: Devil1122
I think teams are scared of his injury

Sabres did a terrible job with the Eichel situation. They should have let him get surgery to make sure he would be healthy by the start of the season. Then trade him/keep him


Also (correct me if I’m wrong anyone); I believe the Sabres weren’t as open with Eichels records as well.

I heard on TSN when compared to Tarasenko: the Blues were VERY forthcoming and open with all his documents records and how everything was handled. Where the Sabres (supposedly) weren’t as forthcoming and took some working to get everything (could be a tactic to only get teams that are actually interested and willing to pay up for Eichel; to go through the trouble). Very odd.. that’s what I heard when they compared to the situation in St. Louis to Buffalo.
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Jul. 30, 2021 at 4:17 p.m.
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Quoting: A_Habs_fan
How’s Buffalo better than Ottawa/Detroit?


I guess its because of Eichel
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Jul. 30, 2021 at 4:20 p.m.
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Also (correct me if I’m wrong anyone); I believe the Sabres weren’t as open with Eichels records as well.

I heard on TSN when compared to Tarasenko: the Blues were VERY forthcoming and open with all his documents records and how everything was handled. Where the Sabres (supposedly) weren’t as forthcoming and took some working to get everything (could be a tactic to only get teams that are actually interested and willing to pay up for eichel; to go through the trouble). Very odd..


Thats pretty sad. No wonder Tarasenko fell hard and Eichel is miserable. Hopefully both guys can go to good teams that can help to heal them and get them back on track.

Kind of like what the raptors did when Kawhi came from the Spurs (not the same sport but the same general idea)
Jul. 30, 2021 at 4:25 p.m.
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Thats pretty sad. No wonder Tarasenko fell hard and Eichel is miserable. Hopefully both guys can go to good teams that can help to heal them and get them back on track.

Kind of like what the raptors did when Kawhi came from the Spurs (not the same sport but the same general idea)


Well with Tarasenko I just think no one wants to pay up for glass and probably after seeing his records they probably still assume theirs a worry.

Whereas with Eichel I think it’s the injury, plus the way the situation was handled and how Buffalo is being both stubborn (as they have the right to because they need a great return) but also coy. If it is true that Buffalo is handling the Eichel situation “in a shady way” then I’d say teams are worried Eichel isn’t as great health wise as we thought before whereas Tarasenko just may be glass. And one has a very high price and the other (Tara) has a price that hasn’t lowered (as far as we know)
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Jul. 30, 2021 at 4:25 p.m.
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Quoting: yikes
Also (correct me if I’m wrong anyone); I believe the Sabres weren’t as open with Eichels records as well.

I heard on TSN when compared to Tarasenko: the Blues were VERY forthcoming and open with all his documents records and how everything was handled. Where the Sabres (supposedly) weren’t as forthcoming and took some working to get everything (could be a tactic to only get teams that are actually interested and willing to pay up for Eichel; to go through the trouble). Very odd.. that’s what I heard when they compared to the situation in St. Louis to Buffalo.


I saw from an article that the Sabres would give the medical records once a team is close to acquiring Eichel which is a stupid idea (unless they're hiding something). The Sabres should give the medical records to all of the teams showing that he'll recover and will be back 100%, so teams would offer more for Eichel.

All this is telling me is there might be more to Eichel's injury that only the Sabres (and Eichel) knows
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Jul. 30, 2021 at 4:26 p.m.
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Way too early 2021-22 division predictions (not final at all, but revised):
Metropolitan:
1) New York Islanders (This team just never stops producing. Barzal has an elite year, Varlamov keeps being a wall, and Trotz gets nominated for COTY again)
2) Washington Capitals (Could even be first, depending on how Samsonov/Vanecek do)
3) Pittsburgh Penguins (Time's running out on this group. That being said, they should still be competitive this year, and Brock McGinn is an excellent pickup and replacement for Brandon Tanev)
4) New York Rangers (WC #2) (I think Shesterkin takes a step forward, and with Panarin back for the full year and Goodrow providing depth, they should squeak in)
5) New Jersey Devils (Another leap taken by this team, rebuild's not quite done yet)
6) Carolina Hurricanes (Waddell has torn this team to shreds. Not a fan of Andersen, and their defense after Slavin and Skjei is non-existent)
7) Philadelphia Flyers (Poor Carter Hart has a good year marred by terrible defense in front of him, save for Provorov and Yandle)
8) Columbus Blue Jackets

Atlantic:
1) Tampa Bay Lightning (Of course)
2) Boston Bruins
3) Toronto Maple Leafs (Am I the only person who really liked the Mrazek signing? And I HATE the Leafs)
4) Florida Panthers (WC #1) (Watch out for Spencer Knight)
5) Montreal Canadiens (I think the loss of Danault, Tatar, and Weber will wind up in them JUST missing, though the Savard signing was excellent)
6) Detroit Red Wings (Ahead of Ottawa due to Nedeljkovic in goal)
7) Ottawa Senators
8) Buffalo Sabres (Worst record in the league, even worse than Yotes, they'll get Shane Wright)

Central:
1) Colorado Avalanche (This might be the year. Kuemper might even be better than Grubauer.)
2) Minnesota Wild (Kaprizov keeps being Kaprizov, Talbot/Kahkonen remains a great tandem)
3) Chicago Blackhawks (IF Fleury plays, and that's an enormous if, than I really like this team)
4) St. Louis Blues (WC #1) (The Buchnevich trade was a steal, and the Saad signing was terrific)
5) Winnipeg Jets (WC #2)
6) Nashville Predators
7) Dallas Stars
8) Arizona (Sorry, Houston) Coyotes (They'll settle for Bedard)

Pacific:
1) Vegas Golden Knights (After this, it's a wide-open division)
2) Calgary Flames (Even with Giordano gone, I think Markstrom will have a terrific year, and Blake Coleman will add depth to an already stacked offense)
3) Edmonton Oilers (Weak defense, but everybody from here on in has weak defense, and I can't see McDavid and Draisaitl missing the playoffs, even if they never win once there)
4) Seattle Kraken (Just miss the playoffs due to lack of a true. No. 1 center)
5) Vancouver Canucks (Miss playoffs, and Benning finally gets fired)
6) Los Angeles Kings
7) San Jose Sharks
8) Anaheim Ducks

Awards:
Hart, Ted Lindsay, Rocket Richard: Nathan MacKinnon
Art Ross: Connor McDavid
Vezina: Andrei Vasilevskiy
Calder: Spencer Knight
Norris: Cale Makar
Jack Adams: Barry Trotz
Jul. 30, 2021 at 4:27 p.m.
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Quoting: Devil1122
I saw from an article that the Sabres would give the medical records once a team is close to acquiring Eichel which is a stupid idea (unless they're hiding something). The Sabres should give the medical records to all of the teams showing that he'll recover and will be back 100%, so teams would offer more for Eichel.

All this is telling me is there might be more to Eichel's injury that only the Sabres (and Eichel) knows


They basically scare off teams before they even get the choice to be interested (which is similar to what I listened too).. def a Buffalo moment
Jul. 30, 2021 at 4:29 p.m.
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They basically scare off teams before they even get the choice to be interested (which is similar to what I listened too).. def a Buffalo moment

Can’t wait until he doesn’t report to training camp and Buffalo is forced to trade him when his value is through the floor
Jul. 30, 2021 at 4:38 p.m.
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Quoting: ConservativeLightningFan91
Way too early 2021-22 division predictions (not final at all, but revised):
Metropolitan:
1) New York Islanders (This team just never stops producing. Barzal has an elite year, Varlamov keeps being a wall, and Trotz gets nominated for COTY again)
2) Washington Capitals (Could even be first, depending on how Samsonov/Vanecek do)
3) Pittsburgh Penguins (Time's running out on this group. That being said, they should still be competitive this year, and Brock McGinn is an excellent pickup and replacement for Brandon Tanev)
4) New York Rangers (WC #2) (I think Shesterkin takes a step forward, and with Panarin back for the full year and Goodrow providing depth, they should squeak in)
5) New Jersey Devils (Another leap taken by this team, rebuild's not quite done yet)
6) Carolina Hurricanes (Waddell has torn this team to shreds. Not a fan of Andersen, and their defense after Slavin and Skjei is non-existent)
7) Philadelphia Flyers (Poor Carter Hart has a good year marred by terrible defense in front of him, save for Provorov and Yandle)
8) Columbus Blue Jackets

Atlantic:
1) Tampa Bay Lightning (Of course)
2) Boston Bruins
3) Toronto Maple Leafs (Am I the only person who really liked the Mrazek signing? And I HATE the Leafs)
4) Florida Panthers (WC #1) (Watch out for Spencer Knight)
5) Montreal Canadiens (I think the loss of Danault, Tatar, and Weber will wind up in them JUST missing, though the Savard signing was excellent)
6) Detroit Red Wings (Ahead of Ottawa due to Nedeljkovic in goal)
7) Ottawa Senators
8) Buffalo Sabres (Worst record in the league, even worse than Yotes, they'll get Shane Wright)

Central:
1) Colorado Avalanche (This might be the year. Kuemper might even be better than Grubauer.)
2) Minnesota Wild (Kaprizov keeps being Kaprizov, Talbot/Kahkonen remains a great tandem)
3) Chicago Blackhawks (IF Fleury plays, and that's an enormous if, than I really like this team)
4) St. Louis Blues (WC #1) (The Buchnevich trade was a steal, and the Saad signing was terrific)
5) Winnipeg Jets (WC #2)
6) Nashville Predators
7) Dallas Stars
8) Arizona (Sorry, Houston) Coyotes (They'll settle for Bedard)

Pacific:
1) Vegas Golden Knights (After this, it's a wide-open division)
2) Calgary Flames (Even with Giordano gone, I think Markstrom will have a terrific year, and Blake Coleman will add depth to an already stacked offense)
3) Edmonton Oilers (Weak defense, but everybody from here on in has weak defense, and I can't see McDavid and Draisaitl missing the playoffs, even if they never win once there)
4) Seattle Kraken (Just miss the playoffs due to lack of a true. No. 1 center)
5) Vancouver Canucks (Miss playoffs, and Benning finally gets fired)
6) Los Angeles Kings
7) San Jose Sharks
8) Anaheim Ducks

Awards:
Hart, Ted Lindsay, Rocket Richard: Nathan MacKinnon
Art Ross: Connor McDavid
Vezina: Andrei Vasilevskiy
Calder: Spencer Knight
Norris: Cale Makar
Jack Adams: Barry Trotz


Why Dallas is so weak frown
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Jul. 30, 2021 at 4:47 p.m.
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They basically scare off teams before they even get the choice to be interested (which is similar to what I listened too).. def a Buffalo moment


Kevyn Adams recently said that there isn't pressure to trade Eichel

I think there's a good chance that Eichel remains in Buffalo

If that's the case, the Sabres could get screwed. If the Sabres trade Eichel next offseason, he has his NMC and could force where he goes
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Jul. 30, 2021 at 4:49 p.m.
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Jul. 30, 2021 at 4:50 p.m.
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Quoting: ConservativeLightningFan91
Way too early 2021-22 division predictions (not final at all, but revised):
Metropolitan:
1) New York Islanders (This team just never stops producing. Barzal has an elite year, Varlamov keeps being a wall, and Trotz gets nominated for COTY again)
2) Washington Capitals (Could even be first, depending on how Samsonov/Vanecek do)
3) Pittsburgh Penguins (Time's running out on this group. That being said, they should still be competitive this year, and Brock McGinn is an excellent pickup and replacement for Brandon Tanev)
4) New York Rangers (WC #2) (I think Shesterkin takes a step forward, and with Panarin back for the full year and Goodrow providing depth, they should squeak in)
5) New Jersey Devils (Another leap taken by this team, rebuild's not quite done yet)
6) Carolina Hurricanes (Waddell has torn this team to shreds. Not a fan of Andersen, and their defense after Slavin and Skjei is non-existent)
7) Philadelphia Flyers (Poor Carter Hart has a good year marred by terrible defense in front of him, save for Provorov and Yandle)
8) Columbus Blue Jackets

Atlantic:
1) Tampa Bay Lightning (Of course)
2) Boston Bruins
3) Toronto Maple Leafs (Am I the only person who really liked the Mrazek signing? And I HATE the Leafs)
4) Florida Panthers (WC #1) (Watch out for Spencer Knight)
5) Montreal Canadiens (I think the loss of Danault, Tatar, and Weber will wind up in them JUST missing, though the Savard signing was excellent)
6) Detroit Red Wings (Ahead of Ottawa due to Nedeljkovic in goal)
7) Ottawa Senators
8) Buffalo Sabres (Worst record in the league, even worse than Yotes, they'll get Shane Wright)

Central:
1) Colorado Avalanche (This might be the year. Kuemper might even be better than Grubauer.)
2) Minnesota Wild (Kaprizov keeps being Kaprizov, Talbot/Kahkonen remains a great tandem)
3) Chicago Blackhawks (IF Fleury plays, and that's an enormous if, than I really like this team)
4) St. Louis Blues (WC #1) (The Buchnevich trade was a steal, and the Saad signing was terrific)
5) Winnipeg Jets (WC #2)
6) Nashville Predators
7) Dallas Stars
8) Arizona (Sorry, Houston) Coyotes (They'll settle for Bedard)

Pacific:
1) Vegas Golden Knights (After this, it's a wide-open division)
2) Calgary Flames (Even with Giordano gone, I think Markstrom will have a terrific year, and Blake Coleman will add depth to an already stacked offense)
3) Edmonton Oilers (Weak defense, but everybody from here on in has weak defense, and I can't see McDavid and Draisaitl missing the playoffs, even if they never win once there)
4) Seattle Kraken (Just miss the playoffs due to lack of a true. No. 1 center)
5) Vancouver Canucks (Miss playoffs, and Benning finally gets fired)
6) Los Angeles Kings
7) San Jose Sharks
8) Anaheim Ducks

Awards:
Hart, Ted Lindsay, Rocket Richard: Nathan MacKinnon
Art Ross: Connor McDavid
Vezina: Andrei Vasilevskiy
Calder: Spencer Knight
Norris: Cale Makar
Jack Adams: Barry Trotz


Pretty much exactly what I think too.

Except Matthews for Richard, and Zegras for Calder.
Jul. 30, 2021 at 4:55 p.m.
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Most underrated team in each division in my opinion

Metro: Philly
Atlantic: Florida
Central: Winnipeg
Pacific: LA
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Jul. 30, 2021 at 4:57 p.m.
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Most underrated team in each division in my opinion

Metro: Philly
Atlantic: Florida
Central: Winnipeg
Pacific: LA


My opinion is:

Metro: NJD/ CBJ
Atlantic : Ottawa
Central : Chicago
Pacific : SJS/ SEA (even tho I hate Francis’ draft)
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Jul. 30, 2021 at 4:59 p.m.
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Ayyyyyyyy! Best of luck!

Which airline you aiming to fly with??
Jul. 30, 2021 at 5:01 p.m.
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Ayyyyyyyy! Best of luck!

Which airline you aiming to fly with??


The big deal, Air Canada

My dream is to become a Captain on the 777Air-Canada-Fleet-C-FITU-Boeing-777-300ER-on-final-approach-at-Beijing-Capital-International-Airport.jpg
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Jul. 30, 2021 at 5:02 p.m.
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The big deal, Air Canada

My dream is to become a Captain on the 777Air-Canada-Fleet-C-FITU-Boeing-777-300ER-on-final-approach-at-Beijing-Capital-International-Airport.jpg


And I hope to be based in TOR Pearson CYYZ
Jul. 30, 2021 at 5:03 p.m.
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My opinion is:

Metro: NJD/ CBJ
Atlantic : Ottawa
Central : Chicago
Pacific : SJS/ SEA (even tho I hate Francis’ draft)


I was going to say NJ but didn't want to be biased

I don't think Chicago is that underrated
Jul. 30, 2021 at 5:08 p.m.
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Most overrated team in each division:

CEN: Winnipeg - Canadian media overhypes them every year

PAC: Vegas - they’re very, very okay, and everyone thinks they’re the best after the first season.

ATL: Toronto - EVERYBODY overhypes this team, they’re a good team, not great. Top 10, but definitely not as good as they’re made up to be

MET: Philadelphia - Same as Toronto, not a bad team but they’re not as good as everyone thinks they are
Jul. 30, 2021 at 5:11 p.m.
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Quoting: MitchMarner_16
Most overrated team in each division:

CEN: Winnipeg - Canadian media overhypes them every year

PAC: Vegas - they’re very, very okay, and everyone thinks they’re the best after the first season.

ATL: Toronto - EVERYBODY overhypes this team, they’re a good team, not great. Top 10, but definitely not as good as they’re made up to be

MET: Philadelphia - Same as Toronto, not a bad team but they’re not as good as everyone thinks they are


My opinion:

PAC: LA: everyone says they're gonna make a run at the playoffs but their D is still «meh» and they still lack offense
CEN: MIN: still no C depth
Metro: WSH, they haven't accomplished anything in 3 seasons and yet everyone still sees them as a contender
ATL: FLA: it may have been a one year fluke, let them prove they're more than a flash in the pan
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Jul. 30, 2021 at 5:12 p.m.
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
The big deal, Air Canada

My dream is to become a Captain on the 777Air-Canada-Fleet-C-FITU-Boeing-777-300ER-on-final-approach-at-Beijing-Capital-International-Airport.jpg


Nice!

I’ve flown with multiple airlines in my life, (boarded a plane almost 60 times, most of them international), and can’t complain about Air Canada’s actual “flight”! though the customer service hasn’t been the best at times….

PS, Korean Air has the absolute BEST customer service hands down, they’re sooooooo accommodating and friendly. Make you feel like you’re the best customer in the world
Jul. 30, 2021 at 5:13 p.m.
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Quoting: MitchMarner_16
Nice!

I’ve flown with multiple airlines in my life, (boarded a plane almost 60 times, most of them international), and can’t complain about Air Canada’s actual “flight”! though the customer service hasn’t been the best at times….

PS, Korean Air has the absolute BEST customer service hands down, they’re sooooooo accommodating and friendly. Make you feel like you’re the best customer in the world


You haven't seen Emirates then

Man If I could find a way to fly with them...
Jul. 30, 2021 at 5:17 p.m.
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
You haven't seen Emirates then

Man If I could find a way to fly with them...


I don’t have the money to fly Emirates, neither have I ever been to the Middle East and where they fly…

I’ve been all over Asia, back and forth to S Korea multiple times, and to a few places in Europe along with our west once. Actually going to BC this fall again
 
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