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2021 offseason talks thread

Jul. 18, 2021 at 5:45 p.m.
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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
Kahkonen’s advanced numbers were bad, while Talbot’s were great. It makes sense to keep your current starting goalie, as opposed to someone who *might* turn out nearly as good as Talbot in the future.


Quoting: LeafsFanForSomeReason
Especially with the Parise/Suter buyouts. Minnesota's time is now. Like, right now.


They basically are all in this year before the buyout dead cap becomes 12mill followed by 14mill the following 2 seasons. Maybe thats why Kaprisov turned down a long term deal. He wants to see how this affects the team lul.
Jul. 18, 2021 at 5:46 p.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
They basically are all in this year before the buyout dead cap becomes 14mill the following season and for I believe at least 3 years.


12, 14, 14 after this upcoming season. And I'm being generous rounding those numbers down.
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Jul. 18, 2021 at 5:48 p.m.
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Quoting: LeafsFanForSomeReason
12, 14, 14 after this upcoming season.





I just cant picture that like 14mill in dead cap. Thats enough to sign so many assets. Well if Minnesota does not go far this season got to think Guerin gets fired. Cause 40 mill in dead space for 3 years total OUCH. Should have kept Suter and just bought out Parise.
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Jul. 18, 2021 at 5:53 p.m.
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Everybody acts like Minnesota wasn’t already planning on wasting $15M on Suter and Parise. I hate the move but that dead cap money isn’t as impactful as it’s being made out to be. Suter and Parise would basically be paperweights by the second last year of the deal anyway, what difference does it make if they are on the roster by then or not? Not suggesting I like the buyout but this thread is acting like the Wild have just as good a chance as the Sacramento Kings do at winning the Cup
Jul. 18, 2021 at 5:54 p.m.
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Quoting: TheFlamingC
Everybody acts like Minnesota wasn’t already planning on wasting $15M on Suter and Parise. I hate the move but that dead cap money isn’t as impactful as it’s being made out to be. Suter and Parise would basically be paperweights by the second last year of the deal anyway, what difference does it make if they are on the roster by then or not? Not suggesting I like the buyout but this thread is acting like the Wild have just as good a chance as the Sacramento Kings do at winning the Cup


I agree with Parise but Suter was still pulling his weight. Would have kept him and bought him out the following season if regression was shown.
Jul. 18, 2021 at 6:01 p.m.
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Man, Montréal’s off-season is seriously f***ed up.


They’re gonna ****ing select him lol
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Jul. 18, 2021 at 6:02 p.m.
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Quoting: TheFlamingC
Everybody acts like Minnesota wasn’t already planning on wasting $15M on Suter and Parise. I hate the move but that dead cap money isn’t as impactful as it’s being made out to be. Suter and Parise would basically be paperweights by the second last year of the deal anyway, what difference does it make if they are on the roster by then or not? Not suggesting I like the buyout but this thread is acting like the Wild have just as good a chance as the Sacramento Kings do at winning the Cup


I like the buyouts. It's a ballsy move. The only question you really have to ask yourself if your Guerin is if you think you can win with Parise and Suter making that much money. If the answer is yes, then you don't buy them out, if the answer is no, then why waste the next four years. You give yourself an incredible opportunity this year, and the next few, you're really not that much worse off than you were before.
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Jul. 18, 2021 at 6:23 p.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
no, you clearly didnt read. Who is the head coach of the Kraken, Hakstol, who was behind the leafs bench till a month ago Hakstol. Hakstol knows every player on that team and from the way Kerfoot stepped up in the playoffs in place of JT he is the most logical choice for Francis per Hakstol's recommendation. A coaches familiarity with players is vital and so Kerfoot is most likely the guy going. If not probs gonna be Hymans rights


TML have no rights to Hyman...UFA!
Jul. 18, 2021 at 6:26 p.m.
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Quoting: McGruff
TML have no rights to Hyman...UFA!


They have his negotiating rights after July 21st which is some form of rights
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Jul. 18, 2021 at 6:31 p.m.
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Quoting: TheFlamingC
They have his negotiating rights after July 21st which is some form of rights


As we sit today, in the here-&-the-now, the TML have 18 signed & US$6.4M left in Cap...
If McCann or Kerfoot are claimed by Kraken-puss that'll give them US$3Mil or so more = US$10/11M Cap @ best and 17 signed...
Hyman gone...
Jul. 18, 2021 at 6:32 p.m.
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Finally finished my partial team by team analysis of the protected lists and Seattle’s options Link
Jul. 18, 2021 at 6:35 p.m.
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Well gentlemen. I’m going to be up at my cottage until July 30, no internet, and not enough data to use CF.

When I come back I’m gonna have a LOT of catching up to do lol. The expansion draft will have been finished, and free agency will have started.

Until then! I’ll talk to y’all in about a week and a half!

Have fun and. Enjoy the busiest part of the offseason ✌️

~MM16
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Jul. 18, 2021 at 6:36 p.m.
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Quoting: MitchMarner_16
Well gentlemen. I’m going to be up at my cottage until July 30, no internet, and not enough data to use CF.

When I come back I’m gonna have a LOT of catching up to do lol. The expansion draft will have been finished, and free agency will have started.

Until then! I’ll talk to y’all in about a week and a half!

Have fun and. Enjoy the busiest part of the offseason ✌️

~MM16


I'm at camp for the next 5 days so you won't be the only one.
Jul. 18, 2021 at 6:57 p.m.
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Quoting: McGruff
TML have no rights to Hyman...UFA!


Acutally yes they do. Look at Goodrow. Rights trades for a 7th. Toronto till the 28th still owns Hyman
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Jul. 18, 2021 at 7:03 p.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
Acutally yes they do. Look at Goodrow. Rights trades for a 7th. Toronto till the 28th still owns Hyman


Oh great a "5th round pick" for Hyman.
Arguably the only player that shows up in the playoffs, nets a 4th/5th/6th for negotiating rights!
Woo hoo.........
Jul. 18, 2021 at 8:28 p.m.
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Francis no





Someone quick tell him what Zadorov was asking for

In all seriousness Gaudette or Kampf is the smarter choice. Less money and there are better D options.

This could also be a good thing as maybe they choose guys we want to lose wink
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Jul. 18, 2021 at 8:31 p.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
Francis no





Someone quick tell him what Zadorov was asking for

In all seriousness Gaudette or Kampf is the smarter choice. Less money and there are better D options.

This could also be a good thing as maybe they choose guys we want to lose wink


Zadorov is good.... but if he wants 5+ hell no
Jul. 18, 2021 at 8:34 p.m.
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Quoting: A_Habs_fan
Zadorov is good.... but if he wants 5+ hell no


Apparently thats what he wants. Considering Dillion, Petterson, and Bean are all available Francis should run with that for the left side. Now I know Zadorov can play right but Demelo, Stetcher, and Lauzon also cost way less.

But if Francis does not care about that maybe he actually does take someone like Hyman to and gives him the 6mill x 6years. Bad for them but good for us wink in the end lul.
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Jul. 18, 2021 at 8:35 p.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
Apparently thats what he wants. Considering Dillion, Petterson, and Bean are all available Francis should run with that for the left side. Now I know Zadorov can play right but Demelo, Stetcher, and Lauzon also cost way less.

But if Francis does not care about that maybe he actually does take someone like Hyman and gives him the 6mill x 6years. Bad for them but good for us wink


Doubt Francis takes any UFA’s without trades apart for Driedger
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Jul. 18, 2021 at 8:36 p.m.
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Quoting: MitchMarner_16
Well gentlemen. I’m going to be up at my cottage until July 30, no internet, and not enough data to use CF.

When I come back I’m gonna have a LOT of catching up to do lol. The expansion draft will have been finished, and free agency will have started.

Until then! I’ll talk to y’all in about a week and a half!

Have fun and. Enjoy the busiest part of the offseason ✌️

~MM16


Quoting: Saskleaf
I'm at camp for the next 5 days so you won't be the only one.


This is my first year that I’ll be able to watch FA, the last couple of years I’ve been on camping trips. This year my camping trip is just after FA, during the first week of August.
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Jul. 18, 2021 at 8:37 p.m.
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Quoting: A_Habs_fan
Doubt Francis takes any UFA’s without trades apart for Driedger


Could take Hyman if he really wants him and is scared of losing him to another team in FA. This draft is gonna be a strange one

But man kind of want Hyman to go to Edmonton as a 3rd for his rights would be sweet.
Jul. 18, 2021 at 10:06 p.m.
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Landeskog-Barzal-Wahlstrom huff

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Jul. 18, 2021 at 10:10 p.m.
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Quoting: Isles777
Landeskog-Barzal-Wahlstrom huff



How is Lou gonna get 7.5-9mill for this guy. Unless he pulls a Florida and goes hey Seattle you want both Bailey and Eberle

Honestly this expansion is so unpredictable right now. I think were gonna see guys go that nobody expected Seattle to take.
Jul. 18, 2021 at 10:12 p.m.
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How is Lou gonna get 7.5-9mill for this guy. Unless he pulls a florida and goes hey seattle you want both Bailey and Eberle


They would have to buyout Hickey and one Bailey/Eberle would have to go.
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Jul. 18, 2021 at 10:18 p.m.
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They would have to buyout Hickey and one Bailey/Eberle would have to go.


Man this offseason is gonna be brain busting


The 21st and 28th need to come sooner lul.
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