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Jul. 24, 2021 at 10:11 p.m.
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Disappointed no one took Aito Iguchi..
Jul. 24, 2021 at 10:12 p.m.
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Quoting: Dzinger18
So now that the draft has officially came and gone, who do you think is a worse pick, Boucher to the sens at 10 or Mailloux to the habs at 31?


Mailloux. Absolutely stunned, especially since Montreal generally makes much smarter moves.
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Jul. 24, 2021 at 10:13 p.m.
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Quoting: Dzinger18
So now that the draft has officially came and gone, who do you think is a worse pick, Boucher to the sens at 10 or Mailloux to the habs at 31?


Well Mailloux is the better player and was picked later so in that aspect Boucher is the worse pick, but taking into account Mailloux not wanting to be drafted, it’s a tie
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Jul. 24, 2021 at 10:21 p.m.
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Very surprisingly, I was not chosen in this year’s draft. I can’t believe anyone could turn down my 5 goals in around 150 or so career house league games. I mean those are jaw-dropping numbers right there. They probably just forgot about me since I haven’t played hockey in 16 months. I’m guaranteed to be at least a top-10 pick next year.

(No I’m not a goalie or defenseman, I’m a LW.)
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Jul. 24, 2021 at 10:25 p.m.
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Quoting: A_Habs_fan
Well Mailloux is the better player and was picked later so in that aspect Boucher is the worse pick, but taking into account Mailloux not wanting to be drafted, it’s a tie


The fact that Mailloux didn’t want to be drafted isn’t the bad part of him being picked. It’s the fact that a person like him is allowed to be given a chance like this at all. I would have just as much of a problem with picking him if this happened 2 years from now.
Jul. 24, 2021 at 10:26 p.m.
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Quoting: A_Habs_fan
Well Mailloux is the better player and was picked later so in that aspect Boucher is the worse pick, but taking into account Mailloux not wanting to be drafted, it’s a tie


I just don't get it. First of all, why would any team associate themselves with a player accused of doing what Mailloux is accused of. Secondly, why would you draft a player who specifically asked not to be drafted?
(That's a pretty rocky way to start off a player/franchise relationship. "Please don't draft me." "To heck with you, we're drafting you anyways.")
Jul. 24, 2021 at 10:26 p.m.
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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
Very surprisingly, I was not chosen in this year’s draft. I can’t believe anyone could turn down my 5 goals in around 150 or so career house league games. I mean those are jaw-dropping numbers right there. They probably just forgot about me since I haven’t played hockey in 16 months. I’m guaranteed to be at least a top-10 pick next year.

(No I’m not a goalie or defenseman, I’m a LW.)


The nerve of those GM's you should have went at least in the 6th round.
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Jul. 24, 2021 at 10:28 p.m.
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Crazy. I'm off this thread for 27 hours, come back, and there are 72 new pages in that time span alone.
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Jul. 24, 2021 at 10:28 p.m.
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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
Very surprisingly, I was not chosen in this year’s draft. I can’t believe anyone could turn down my 5 goals in around 150 or so career house league games. I mean those are jaw-dropping numbers right there. They probably just forgot about me since I haven’t played hockey in 16 months. I’m guaranteed to be at least a top-10 pick next year.

(No I’m not a goalie or defenseman, I’m a LW.)


I forgot to mention, I’m also quite the playmaker. Those 5 goals are paired with 6 assists, as you can see, I’m the ultimate offensive threat.
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Jul. 24, 2021 at 10:44 p.m.
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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
I forgot to mention, I’m also quite the playmaker. Those 5 goals are paired with 6 assists, as you can see, I’m the ultimate offensive threat.


You have as good a passing game as me. But you have more goals (I only got 1). By the way I'm also a winger usually.

BUT...

I have a great 2 way game. I was number one penalty kill. You'd think an nhl team would have taken the chance on me that I could improve me scoring. But hey it's been 3 years since I've played minor hockey so I guess that's why lol.
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Jul. 24, 2021 at 10:45 p.m.
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Quoting: A_Habs_fan
Well Mailloux is the better player and was picked later so in that aspect Boucher is the worse pick, but taking into account Mailloux not wanting to be drafted, it’s a tie


This. Both are completely baffling picks though.
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Jul. 24, 2021 at 10:59 p.m.
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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
Very surprisingly, I was not chosen in this year’s draft. I can’t believe anyone could turn down my 5 goals in around 150 or so career house league games. I mean those are jaw-dropping numbers right there. They probably just forgot about me since I haven’t played hockey in 16 months. I’m guaranteed to be at least a top-10 pick next year.

(No I’m not a goalie or defenseman, I’m a LW.)


General Managers just don’t know how to evaluate real talent these days
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Jul. 24, 2021 at 11:02 p.m.
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Quoting: AndrewLadd
General Managers just don’t know how to evaluate real talent these days


Yea, that's why I'm surprised he didn't get drafted
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Jul. 24, 2021 at 11:10 p.m.
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Mika wants 7-8 years 10M😳
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Jul. 24, 2021 at 11:21 p.m.
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Edited Jul. 25, 2021 at 1:25 a.m.
Biggest Steals in the Draft
William Eklund
Jesper Wallstedt
Fabian Lysell
Nikita Chibrikov
Aatu Raty
Sasha Pastujov
Dylan Duke
Logan Stankoven

Biggest reaches
Ty Boucher
Logan Mallioux
Nolan Allan
Ilya Fedotov
Ben Roger
Janis Moser
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Jul. 24, 2021 at 11:22 p.m.
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Edited Jul. 24, 2021 at 11:30 p.m.
Quoting: Devil1122
Mika wants 7-8 years 10M😳


K lets look at comparable's before we judge or go crazy

3 seasons will be used for each starting in 2018. Did not include playoffs as Eichel has never been.

Lets start with Zibanejad

2018-2019
30 goals, 44 assists, 74 points -12 in 82 games
2019-2020
41 goals, 34 assists, 75 points +9 in 57 games
2020-2021
24 goals, 26 assists, 50 points +18 in 56 games

Now lets go to Comparable 1 Eichel 10mill

2018-2019
28 goals, 54 assists, 82 points -11 in 77 games
2019-2020
36 goals, 42 assists, 78 points +5 in 68 games
2020-2021
2 goals, 16 assists, 18 points -9 in 21 games (was injured)

Comparable 2 Matthews 11.645mill

2018-2019
37 goals, 36 assists, 73 points -9 in 68 games
2019-2020
47 goals, 33 assists, 80 points +19 in 70 games
2020-2021
41 goals, 25 assists, 66 points +21 in 52 games

Comparable 3 Mcdavid 12.5mill

2018-2019
41 goals, 75 assists, 116 points +3 in 78 games
2019-2020
34 goals, 63 assists, 97 points -6 in 70 games
2020-2021
33 goals, 72 assists, 105 points +21 in 56 games

We could go into details about whose playing with who and blah blah blah but that will take forever. Also I know there are some guys making less but we all heard what he wants and most of those guys are basically due for paydays anyway (i.e. Point and Horvat)

To me 8.5-10 mill for Zibanejad is fair considering he will get you 30 + goals
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Jul. 24, 2021 at 11:27 p.m.
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Thinking ahead to next off-season here. Imagine if Devils land in the right area to draft Jack Hughes. Just imagine the Chaos
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Jul. 24, 2021 at 11:34 p.m.
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Quoting: Devil1122
Biggest Steals in the Draft
William Eklund
Jesper Wallstedt
Fabian Lysell
Nikita Chibrikov
Aatu Raty
Sasha Pastujov
Dylan Duke

Biggest reaches
Ty Boucher
Logan Mallioux
Nolan Allan
Ilya Fedotov
Ben Roger
Janis Moser


I’d add Logan Stankoven, he’s the kid we got in the 2nd. It’s a great pick by Nill.
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Jul. 24, 2021 at 11:35 p.m.
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Quoting: Devil1122
Mika wants 7-8 years 10M😳


Do these guys know we’re in a flat cap era? What’s next Cogliano wanting a 5x5.
Jul. 24, 2021 at 11:35 p.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
K lets look at comparable's before we judge or go crazy

3 seasons will be used for each starting in 2018. Did not include playoffs as Eichel has never been.

Lets start with Zibanejad

2018-2019
30 goals, 44 assists, 74 points -12 in 82 games
2019-2020
41 goals, 34 assists, 75 points +9 in 57 games
2020-2021
24 goals, 26 assists, 50 points +18 in 56 games

Now lets go to Comparable 1 Eichel 10mill

2018-2019
28 goals, 54 assists, 82 points -11 in 77 games
2019-2020
36 goals, 42 assists, 78 points +5 in 68 games
2020-2021
2 goals, 16 assists, 18 points -9 in 21 games (was injured)

Comparable 2 Matthews 11.645mill

2018-2019
37 goals, 36 assists, 73 points -9 in 68 games
2019-2020
47 goals, 33 assists, 80 points +19 in 70 games
2020-2021
41 goals, 25 assists, 66 points +21 in 52 games

Comparable 3 Mcdavid 12.5mill

2018-2019
41 goals, 75 assists, 116 points +3 in 78 games
2019-2020
34 goals, 63 assists, 97 points -6 in 70 games
2020-2021
33 goals, 72 assists, 105 points +21 in 56 games

We could go into details about whose playing with who and blah blah blah but that will take forever. Also I know there are some guys making less but we all heard what he wants and most of those guys are basically due for paydays anyway (i.e. Point and Horvat)

To me 8.5-10 mill for Zibanejad is fair considering he will get you 30 + goals


I think 8.5 is fair, not 10M. Mika is very inconsistent and plays with much better players. I hope Mika gets 10M though
Jul. 24, 2021 at 11:36 p.m.
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Quoting: Gmonwy
Thinking ahead to next off-season here. Imagine if Devils land in the right area to draft Jack Hughes. Just imagine the Chaos


How would the names on the back of the jersey work😂
Jul. 24, 2021 at 11:37 p.m.
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Quoting: EsoYeezus69
I’d add Logan Stankoven, he’s the kid we got in the 2nd. It’s a great pick by Nill.


I should add him

Completely forgot Nill made a good pick
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Jul. 24, 2021 at 11:40 p.m.
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Quoting: Devil1122
I should add him

Completely forgot Nill made a good pick


He was 5/10 today, I’m shocked that he held up some amazing picks, but some were very questionable.
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Jul. 25, 2021 at 12:08 a.m.
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Quoting: EsoYeezus69
He was 5/10 today, I’m shocked that he held up some amazing picks, but some were very questionable.


First round pick was definitely questionable
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Jul. 25, 2021 at 12:09 a.m.
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Quoting: Devil1122
First round pick was definitely questionable


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Dallas draft rating:

1st: Wyatt Johnston: C+, could've been a better pick like Ceulemans, but it's alright.
2nd: Logan Stankoven: A+, steal of a pick, great sniper.
2nd: Artyom Grushnikov: C-, way better players on the board like Raty and Robertson
3rd: Ayrton Martino: A, another steal of a pick, great playmaker.
3rd: Justin Ertel: F, bro played in the wish version of the QMJHL, way better players available like Ufko and Johnson.
4th: Connor Roulette: B+, great pick, other players like Ufko and Duke were available, but Roulette is an as good of a pick as those two.
5th: Jack Bar: A, third steal of a pick, best RHD available and a great all around defensemen.
5th: Jacob Holmes: C+, alright pick, would've went with a fast Finnish centre.
6th: Francesco Arcuri: C, meh pick, would've picked either Elias or Gallagher.
7th: Albert Sjoberg: B, good pick to wrap up the draft.

5/10


This is my whole Dallas draft review ^. Nill literally picked three of the same player in the 2018, 2020 and 2021 draft in the first round. Dellandrea, Bourque and Johnston.
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