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Aug. 25, 2021 at 12:49 a.m.
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Quoting: Alfie11
I think his high hockey IQ and skill will eventually lead to increased real production and that will carry him into top 10 within 1-2 years, but until that comes to fruition I just don’t think he can be ahead of a guy like RoR (better defensively, similar offensively) as that is Petey’s X-factor. I’m also not sure if we can really take into account his defensive contributions when the Canucks are one of the worst teams in terms of possession, high danger chances, and shot quantity, and he doesn’t play PK, so that doesn’t push him past an outstanding offensive contributor like Scheifele (yet). I do think he’ll probably wind up top 7 in 3-5 years (McDavid/MacKinnon/Matthews/Wright/Bedard is tough to crack but there’s a good case for him being the best of the rest in a few years). Also as a sidenote isn’t WAR the thing that’s been bugging recently (Verhaeghe best projected player in the league, McCann 2nd to McDavid last year) or was that a diff stat lol. Regardless, if it has him better than McDavid and MacKinnon it should probably be taken with a grain of salt.


With all due respect, you’re talking about how Peteys stellar game hasn’t come to fruititjon but you are already talking about Wright and Bedard in the top 5 when they haven’t even been drafted into the NHL. There is always a chance they don’t pan out so we cannot use them as a prediction to be top 5 centers. Also the Canucks were one of the worst defensive teams this year and this year happened to be the year where he missed more than half the season with an injury. It’s really hard to help a team when you’re injured. I see him potentially top 5-7 in 5 years from now and he still is top 10 in my opinion.
Aug. 25, 2021 at 1:39 a.m.
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Quoting: Juiceman
With all due respect, you’re talking about how Peteys stellar game hasn’t come to fruititjon but you are already talking about Wright and Bedard in the top 5 when they haven’t even been drafted into the NHL. There is always a chance they don’t pan out so we cannot use them as a prediction to be top 5 centers. Also the Canucks were one of the worst defensive teams this year and this year happened to be the year where he missed more than half the season with an injury. It’s really hard to help a team when you’re injured. I see him potentially top 5-7 in 5 years from now and he still is top 10 in my opinion.

Look at the time frame… I’m arguing he’s not top 10 right now, but that he will likely be top 7 in 5 years (we agree there, I was just elaborating on who I think will be top 5 by then, which does include Wright and Bedard. Projecting undrafted players is fine for 5 years from now, we’re obviously projecting development and regression from active players, so including soon to be drafted generational talents is fine).
Aug. 25, 2021 at 9:53 a.m.
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Quoting: IconicHawk
Lol some biased leafs fan thought Matthews would outscore McDavid Draisaitl and MacKinnion


lol no chance
Aug. 25, 2021 at 10:16 a.m.
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There’s always those kinds of people. He’s only 13 so I Hope this kid grows up and looks back on these posts and has a good chuckle


I once traded Ristolainen to Detroit for their 2021 FIRST ROUNDER

I deleted the post lol

We ALL made that one post that is so bad it makes us cringe just by looking at it
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Aug. 25, 2021 at 10:28 a.m.
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
I once traded Ristolainen to Detroit for their 2021 FIRST ROUNDER

I deleted the post lol

We ALL made that one post that is so bad it makes us cringe just by looking at it


I mean, Risto got more than that IRL ( yes it was a huge overpayment but still )
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Aug. 25, 2021 at 10:46 a.m.
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Olympic qualifiers start tomorrow
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Aug. 25, 2021 at 10:52 a.m.
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Olympic qualifiers start tomorrow


I hope Belarus makes it
Aug. 25, 2021 at 10:57 a.m.
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I hope Belarus makes it


Well nhl players won’t play in the qualifiers
Aug. 25, 2021 at 11:03 a.m.
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Well nhl players won’t play in the qualifiers


I'm pretty sure some of them will, but the NHL rather not them to (don't know if the sentence even makes sense). I'm pretty sure I've seen that Teddy Blueger was Latvia's captain.
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Aug. 25, 2021 at 11:27 a.m.
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Quoting: SevenLeg
I'm pretty sure some of them will, but the NHL rather not them to (don't know if the sentence even makes sense). I'm pretty sure I've seen that Teddy Blueger was Latvia's captain.


I’m pretty sure I saw highlights of Sharangovich playing in something this summer too
Aug. 25, 2021 at 11:30 a.m.
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How good is this?
Guentzel-Bergeron-Coleman
Forsberg-Hertl-Tuch
Wood-Vilardi-M.Foligno
Bjork-Glendening-Blais

Chabot-Weegar
Toews-Schmidt
Soucy-Bogosian

Grubauer
DeSmith
Aug. 25, 2021 at 11:31 a.m.
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
How good is this?
Guentzel-Bergeron-Coleman
Forsberg-Hertl-Tuch
Wood-Vilardi-M.Foligno

Chabot-Weegar
Toews-Schmidt
Soucy-Bogosian

Grubauer
DeSmith


They'd be better with a 4th line
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Aug. 25, 2021 at 11:32 a.m.
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Quoting: SevenLeg
They'd be better with a 4th line


LOL, it's fixed
Aug. 25, 2021 at 11:43 a.m.
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Well nhl players won’t play in the qualifiers


Really?

What's the reasoning for that?
Aug. 25, 2021 at 11:44 a.m.
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Quoting: A_Habs_fan
I’m pretty sure I saw highlights of Sharangovich playing in something this summer too


Yeah he was playing in Belarus for a league
Aug. 25, 2021 at 11:54 a.m.
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There’s no more Blackhawks to watch for qualifiers anyways if they did so
Aug. 25, 2021 at 12:25 p.m.
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https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/507147?post_id=2647882

Red Wings fans are nuts I swear. Look at the comments at your own risk.
Aug. 25, 2021 at 12:33 p.m.
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Quoting: SevenLeg
https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/507147?post_id=2647882

Red Wings fans are nuts I swear. Look at the comments at your own risk.

They’re insufferable lmao, no Stevie Y will not take your 1yr 3mil cap dump unless you pay a 1st and your best prospect, if you want any of our bum players for your 4th line that’ll cost you two 2nds cuz of the #Yzerplan. I can’t even see what’s specifically wrong with that thread because I’ve already blocked most of the worst offenders (it is funny to see the post # skip from 1 to 3 and 7 to 10 and such though lol)
Aug. 25, 2021 at 12:36 p.m.
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Quoting: Alfie11
They’re insufferable lmao, no Stevie Y will not take your 1yr 3mil cap dump unless you pay a 1st and your best prospect, if you want any of our bum players for your 4th line that’ll cost you two 2nds cuz of the #Yzerplan. I can’t even see what’s specifically wrong with that thread because I’ve already blocked most of the worst offenders (it is funny to see the post # skip from 1 to 3 and 7 to 10 and such though lol)


Lol those kinds of fans are everywhere. I once had a fan who told me that the Canucks would have to pay their team two first round picks to dump Holtby.
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Aug. 25, 2021 at 12:39 p.m.
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Quoting: Alfie11
They’re insufferable lmao, no Stevie Y will not take your 1yr 3mil cap dump unless you pay a 1st and your best prospect, if you want any of our bum players for your 4th line that’ll cost you two 2nds cuz of the #Yzerplan. I can’t even see what’s specifically wrong with that thread because I’ve already blocked most of the worst offenders (it is funny to see the post # skip from 1 to 3 and 7 to 10 and such though lol)


Imagine the offer proposed by the Rangers fan in that thread.

Ryan Strome, if acquired by the Wings can be this year's Dylan Larkin's replacement at 1C and later dealt at the deadline for a 1st or close to that.
Brennan Othmann, Nils Lundkvist still hold the value of first round picks
There are two additional 1st round picks from a young team in a competitive division with a strong possibility of being top 10 picks.

All of that for not even a 1C lmao. The Wings fans say it does not get close to Eichel, heck it does. But hey, laugh laugh Stevie Y won't trade Michigan native and captain Dylan Larkin for scraps laugh laugh
Aug. 25, 2021 at 12:45 p.m.
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Imagine the offer proposed by the Rangers fan in that thread.

Ryan Strome, if acquired by the Wings can be this year's Dylan Larkin's replacement at 1C and later dealt at the deadline for a 1st or close to that.
Brennan Othmann, Nils Lundkvist still hold the value of first round picks
There are two additional 1st round picks from a young team in a competitive division with a strong possibility of being top 10 picks.

All of that for not even a 1C lmao. The Wings fans say it does not get close to Eichel, heck it does. But hey, laugh laugh Stevie Y won't trade Michigan native and captain Dylan Larkin for scraps laugh laugh


Again, there are fans like that everywhere. I just finished reading a fansided article about offer sheeting Pettersson. The whole article was about how great Petey is and how the Canucks cap is tight (it’s not) and how much they should try to get him for the future 2C (lmao what?). All of a sudden the take a 180 turn and spends the last paragraph about how an offer sheet won’t work because Petterson can’t take face offs and giving too much money for him isn’t worth it…
Aug. 25, 2021 at 12:49 p.m.
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Quoting: SevenLeg
https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/507147?post_id=2647882

Red Wings fans are nuts I swear. Look at the comments at your own risk.


McDavid + Draisaitl + 3 first round picks for Larkin

Wings fan: NO, Yzerman is not trading Larkin


I don't see Larkin getting traded but Wings fans overrate him like crazy
Aug. 25, 2021 at 1:04 p.m.
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NHL News and Rumors

Jack Eichel has STILL not undergone neck surgery making it very unlikely for him to be medically cleared for the regular season. - David Pagnotta

As of now, the Sabres would prefer to send Jack Eichel out west. - David Pagnotta

Ducks, Golden Kknights, Rangers, Blue Jackets, Flames all linked to Eichel - David Pagnotta

There has been no discussion at the NHL level about a team in Houston. I do not believe the NHL wants to abandon Arizona market. - Stars CEO Brad Alberts/Saad Yousuf

Quinton Byfield has a foot injury (day-to-day) - John Haven

Bozak is skating with Blues players in St.Louis. Blues would like to keep him. They have to move Tarasenko to clear cap space - Jeremy Rutherford

Edmonton is interested in Jake DeBrusk. Calagary is too (not as much as Edmonton). - Fluto Shinzawa

For now, the Starts don't appear to have interest in moving one of their goalies - Mike Heika

Scott Mayfield is a trade target for the Blues - Jeremy Rutherford

The likelihood of the Blackhawks trading Strome depends on the availability of Toews - Ben Pope
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Aug. 25, 2021 at 1:06 p.m.
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Quoting: SevenLeg
https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/507147?post_id=2647882

Red Wings fans are nuts I swear. Look at the comments at your own risk.


Another example
Aug. 25, 2021 at 1:06 p.m.
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Quoting: SevenLeg
https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/507147?post_id=2647882

Red Wings fans are nuts I swear. Look at the comments at your own risk.


Diehardredwingsfan58 is dillusional I swear lol
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