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Stuck in Mediocrity with CF

Created by: DirtyDangles
Initial Creation Date: Jun 7, 2021
Published: Jun 7 at 11:43
Team: 2021-22 Philadelphia Flyers
Team Explanation
This is what I believe to be the likeliest outcome.

We miss on Hamilton and Larsson because they re-sign with their current teams. We miss on Seth Jones because CF doesn't want to part with the necessary pieces. We trade Patrick for scraps. We overpay for a RHD because there is nothing left. We miss on all good back-up goalies because Philly is a goalie graveyard.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Hart, Carter3$3,750,000
Sanheim, Travis5$4,250,000
Bunnaman, Connor2$800,000
Twarynski, Carsen2$800,000
Sandin, Linus2$800,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Morin, Samuel2$825,000
Hutton, Carter1$1,500,000
Trades
PHI
    SEA
    1. van Riemsdyk, James
    2. 2021 3rd round pick (PHI)
    PHI
    1. 2022 3rd round pick (ARI)
    ARI
    1. Hägg, Robert
    2. Patrick, Nolan [RFA Rights]
    PHI
    1. Manson, Josh
    2. 2021 3rd round pick (ANA)
    ANA
    1. 2021 1st round pick (PHI)
    Buyouts
    • Ilya Bryzgalov: $0
    DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
    2021
    PHI
    ANA
    PHI
    VGK
    PHI
    PHI
    2022
    PHI
    PHI
    PHI
    ARI
    PHI
    PHI
    PHI
    PHI
    STL
    2023
    PHI
    PHI
    PHI
    PHI
    PHI
    PHI
    PHI
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
    23$81,500,000$75,839,523$0$1,025,000$5,660,477
    Left WingCenterRight Wing
    PHI
    Giroux, Claude
    $8,275,000
    LW, C, RW
    NMC
    UFA - 1
    PHI
    Couturier, Sean
    $4,333,333
    C
    UFA - 1
    PHI
    Voracek, Jakub
    $8,250,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 3
    PHI
    Farabee, Joel
    $925,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    PHI
    Hayes, Kevin
    $7,142,857
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 5
    PHI
    Allison, Wade
    $925,000
    RW
    RFA - 1
    PHI
    Laughton, Scott
    $3,000,000
    LW, C
    UFA - 5
    PHI
    Frost, Morgan
    $863,333
    C
    RFA - 1
    PHI
    Konecny, Travis
    $5,500,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 4
    PHI
    Lindblom, Oskar
    $3,000,000
    LW
    RFA - 2
    PHI
    Laczynski, Tanner
    $925,000
    C
    RFA - 1
    PHI
    Aubé-Kubel, Nicolas
    $1,075,000
    RW
    RFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    PHI
    Provorov, Ivan
    $6,750,000
    LD
    UFA - 4
    ANA
    Manson, Josh
    $4,100,000
    RD
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    PHI
    Hart, Carter
    $3,750,000
    G
    RFA - 3
    PHI
    Sanheim, Travis
    $4,250,000
    LD
    UFA - 2
    PHI
    Braun, Justin
    $1,800,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
    Hutton, Carter
    $1,500,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    PHI
    Gostisbehere, Shayne
    $4,500,000
    LD
    UFA - 2
    PHI
    Myers, Philippe
    $2,550,000
    RD
    RFA - 2
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    PHI
    Bunnaman, Connor
    $800,000
    C
    RFA - 2
    PHI
    Morin, Samuel
    $825,000
    LD, LW
    RFA - 1
    PHI
    Twarynski, Carsen
    $800,000
    LW
    RFA - 1

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    Jun 7 at 12:07
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    I don't have a ton of faith in Fletcher myself but he isn't so stupid he'd pull something like that Anaheim trade or the Arizona trade
    Jun 7 at 12:08
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    I don't know that these specific trades will happen but I do agree we need to land a big fish on D and I don't see it happening.
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    Jun 7 at 12:11
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    I think the Ducks could work with that. Could draft Lambos or Cuelemans with the pick.
    Jun 7 at 12:18
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    Quoting: DH28Hockey
    I don't have a ton of faith in Fletcher myself but he isn't so stupid he'd pull something like that Anaheim trade or the Arizona trade


    You are talking about the guy who traded Nino for Rask...
    Jun 7 at 12:33
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    Quoting: DirtyDangles
    You are talking about the guy who traded Nino for Rask...


    Even though that wasn't a bad trade by most accounts, that wasn't even Fletcher lmao
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    Jun 7 at 12:39
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    Quoting: DH28Hockey
    Even though that wasn't a bad trade by most accounts, that wasn't even Fletcher lmao


    My bad Fletcher got fired before that. But he's the guy who traded Tuch and a 3rd so that VGK would take Haula. CF is the epitome of mediocrity. And that Nino trade was atrocious!
    Jun 7 at 12:47
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    Quoting: DirtyDangles
    My bad Fletcher got fired before that. But he's the guy who traded Tuch and a 3rd so that VGK would take Haula. CF is the epitome of mediocrity. And that Nino trade was atrocious!


    TBF IIRC he made that trade to protect all of Brodin, Spurgeon, Dumba, and Suter. I'm not saying it was the best way he could have handled that, but at least in this case the logic used made sense, he just clearly misevaluated Tuch.

    As for the Nino trade, both Nino and Rask struggled heavily the 2 seasons before that move happened, and in the exchange Minnesota was saving cap and addressing their Center core, something they desperately needed help in. Nino has been the better player since the trade but has still gone through periods in Carolina where he has struggled. Idk, I'm of the mind that it isn't the GM's fault if the player they acquire doesn't live up to his past performances. That trade 100% looked fair at the time
    Jun 7 at 1:05
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    Quoting: DH28Hockey
    TBF IIRC he made that trade to protect all of Brodin, Spurgeon, Dumba, and Suter. I'm not saying it was the best way he could have handled that, but at least in this case the logic used made sense, he just clearly misevaluated Tuch.

    As for the Nino trade, both Nino and Rask struggled heavily the 2 seasons before that move happened, and in the exchange Minnesota was saving cap and addressing their Center core, something they desperately needed help in. Nino has been the better player since the trade but has still gone through periods in Carolina where he has struggled. Idk, I'm of the mind that it isn't the GM's fault if the player they acquire doesn't live up to his past performances. That trade 100% looked fair at the time


    I laughed at that trade at the time. At least Nino was serviceable before that trade, Rask was atrocious. And then Rask was basically a 13th F the following year. There is struggling and then there is, a guy who can barely play. The guy played with Kaprizov this year for nearly 60% of 5v5 time and could only manage .43 p/gp.
    Jun 8 at 6:00
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    Quoting: DirtyDangles
    I laughed at that trade at the time. At least Nino was serviceable before that trade, Rask was atrocious. And then Rask was basically a 13th F the following year. There is struggling and then there is, a guy who can barely play. The guy played with Kaprizov this year for nearly 60% of 5v5 time and could only manage .43 p/gp.


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