This looks pretty realistic but think the Hawks get slightly more for Strome. If Kalynuk and Z are our 1/2 punch on the left side we are absolutely toast

Depends on whose their at 9 I guess. Dumping Roussell is kinda pointless if we are also dumping Eriksson. Maybe take out Roussell and the 2nd and make it like a 3rd or 4th instead

As a Canucks fan I'd do this in a heartbeat

I still think you can get a little more for Strome, but I do like the VAN trade for both sides.

I REALLY think VAN should be giving both Hughes and Petterson longer term deals. If they do a bridge...then those two will be up for another contract right after Seattle and the ESPN deal kicks in. Exactly when the cap will jump...thus them wanting EVEN MORE money. Sign them long term now (and shed cap) so that when the cap actually jumps...you can go out and get new pieces to finalize your team.

I think it's gonna be Kieth, Zad, Kalynuk, Stillman, and Beaudan taking all the time over there. I want Lindholm as much as the next guy, just like how I wanted Brodin before Minny extended him, but I think it's more of a pipe dream than something that we would atcually do. Maybe Martinez as a stop gap on a 1 or 2 year deal, but we would need to move out a couple bodies on the left side in that case. Z would be the easy call to be the first one to move, but if martinez is here for any more than a year we would need to move a 2nd guy. Don't want to block the way for Beaudan and Kalynuk, and eventually Vlasic, to get ice time

Swapping 1sts only gets us ahead of Ottowa, so I think it costs a little more than that and a 4th to dump erikson

Depends whos at 9 for the Canucks - If Wallstedt is taken before 9, No way canucks trade the pick

I'm not sure I follow. If Wallstedt is taken Before nine...THEN no way? Who are you all but guaranteeing will be available ONLY IF Wallstedt is already gone?

That logic makes just about zero sense. I get that you're saying that means Van would be getting one of their top 8 skaters, but is that really that much more valuable than one of the top 9 skaters if wallstst isn't taken? Moving 9 mil (7.5 mil if burried) in cap at this price is a pretty good deal for van. Move back 2 spots in the 1st and give a 2nd. Very reasonable based on other cap dump trades. As if Wallstst is taken that just means at 11 Van is still getting one of the top 10 skaters on their board.

the is 8 amazing players and D;
Power, Edvinsson, Guenther, Eklund, Beniers, Hughes, Clarke, Johnson, in no particular order and any would be extreme benifit to Vancouver.
There is a Tiered drop off after that.

If Wallstedt is the topped rank goalie, franchise goalie. A top 8 team [Detroit, Kings, Sharks] could reach for him and therefor pushes any of those players back a pick to 9oa.

Makes perfect sense or you wouldnt have suggested getting the 9oa pick.
Vancouver doesnt need to dump salary they can buy out 2 players and bury the camp dumps in the AHL and still select 9oa

Makes no sense for the Flyers to do that deal. We all know what Nylander is by this point, Patrick still has a year or 2 left to show what he can do IMO.

For the hawks it makes sense to take the cap. Add more draft capital and we can easily afford it. For Van it makes sense to shed the cap. Allows them to give long term deals to Petterson and Hughes which makes a ton of sense. If you bridge them you need to extend them again right when the TV deal and Seattle expansion money kicks in and increases the cap. At that point those two will just as for even more money. It's well worth the cost to save the money down the line and be able to use the money to build a real contender. Pay them now before you're giving them 10 mil+. Like I said from a hawks perspective it makes zero sense for us to sit on 15 mil in cap space

sure it benefits the Hawks - but like i said Vancouver doesnt need to do it, regardless what Pettersson or Hughes decided to sign

If the canuks don't shed the cap, they can barley afford to run back the same roster they had last year, you know the one that got them the 9th pick in the first place? There's clear benefits to VAN as well,a nd other VAN fans on this thread seem to agree

Fast forwarding the cap flexibility adds a year to their window. With the depressed cap and deep UFA pool, they could rebuild their bottom 6 quickly and hopefully make a change to the D corps

in others you mean 1 person?

Vancouver is not a Stanley cup contender, they are barely a playoff contender.
they are in no position to trade picks or assets to ride themselves of salary that will be gone in a year anyway.

dropping back 2 spots and losing the 40oa pick is pointless and plain miss-management by Benning if he does it.

fast forwarding why? its all gone in a year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

they can buy out 2 players, bury other in Abbotsford and retain salary trades and still accomplish this and keey the 9 & 40oa picks

I can answer that! It's actually not hard either to understand either. We can have a difference of opinion on this matter. Sure I get that and all opinions are welcome. I do have an opinion though.

The reason I think it's smart for VAN to do it is because Hughes and Petterson need new contracts this year. Not next year. This year. VAN can sign both these guys to long term deals....IF VAN thinks they're part of their future. If you think they stink...ok different discussion. I don't think they stink. Let's pretend you do a bridge. Let use Alex Debrincat as an example. 3 year bridge deal with an escalating salary. That means that come 2023-2024...Petterson/Hughes are going to want something like $12M a piece. Why not lock them in today around $7M-8M for 8 years? This way you can have something like $8-$10M available when you ARE actually contending and NEED final pieces to your puzzle.

Look at Carolina. Look at TBL. They committed to guys like Turbo/Slavin/Pesce/Aho and Hedman/Stamkos and it's paid off. The only reason Point didn't get a longer team deal is because they couldn't provide one....and probably why Point won't be in Tampa for long.

***EDIT*** Let's also not forget that buying out Loui and Roussel means $6M in dead cap next year and $2M the following. Especially this upcoming year when UFAs are going to cost less than usual...go get a veteran Dman.

I didn’t say buy those 2 out.

QH/EP share the same agent. Barzels Agent. He likes bridge deals for his clients.

Which is good by the way cause now you own both QH/EP until they are 33.
Not 29/30 when they can walk in free agency.

EP/QH haven’t done anything to warrant 8-10m 8 year deals and I can assure you Hughes will not be 10m dman. EP will get paid thou.

Buyout JV/BH bury LE,AR and JB or trade retain salary and 15m turns into 21 million.

It is not worth it to Vancouver to sacrifice future for the betterment of now.

There's a reason the agent likes the bridge deals for his client...because they get more money and the team shells out more in the long run. That's my point. IMO my way is more responsible for VAN in the long run....not giving out bridge deals. The 11th vs 9th pick is nothing in the long run and a 3rd has roughly an ~18% chance of even playing 100 nhl games of even poor play.

Well that’s where your wrong. There is clear difference between those 8 players, Wallstedt and the next tier.

I seen a BUF trade with Olofsson for Strome.