I don't see that being enough for both Ellis and Arvy.

a top 3 pick for a rebound, good young solid top 4 a first and a second for a forward who has run out of time there and a good RD i think it is what more could u want mr greedy

Patrick was a 2OA pick, sure, but he has most certainly not even close to lived up to that pedigree. He's already missed an entire season due to injury/migraines, and when he has played he hasn't looked very good and doesn't contribute much offensively. Patrick is at his lowest value right now -- 9 points in 52 games, -30. Patrick looks more like the next Yakupov than a future top 1/2C...

Not greedy, just realistic.

CBJ says yes, and would you like breakfast on the way out?

NSH declines