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Getting Rid Of Some Junk

Created by: Grapevine
Initial Creation Date: Jun 9, 2021
Published: Jun 9 at 7:19
Team: 2021-22 Winnipeg Jets
Team Explanation
Trading Copp isn’t a junk dump. He’s a solid player but we desperately need blueline help.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Kehler, Cole3$800,000
Lehkonen, Artturi3$2,750,000
Patrick, Nolan2$1,800,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Zajac, Travis2$1,600,000
Montour, Brandon4$4,350,000
Brossoit, Laurent3$2,300,000
Perreault, Mathieu2$1,750,000
Trades
WPG
  1. Lehkonen, Artturi [RFA Rights]
  2. 2021 2nd round pick (MTL)
MTL
  1. Dubois, Pierre-Luc
WPG
    SEA
    1. DeMelo, Dylan
    2. Harkins, Jansen
    3. 2021 2nd round pick (WPG)
    WPG
    1. Patrick, Nolan [RFA Rights]
    2. Aubé-Kubel, Nicolas
    PHI
    1. Pionk, Neal [RFA Rights]
    WPG
    1. Lundkvist, Nils
    2. 2021 4th round pick (LAK)
    NYR
    1. Copp, Andrew [RFA Rights]
    2. Torgersson, Daniel [Reserve List]
    WPG
    1. Parayko, Colton
    STL
    1. Niku, Sami
    2. 2021 1st round pick (WPG)
    WPG
    1. Simek, Radim
    2. 2021 4th round pick (SJS)
    3. 2022 2nd round pick (SJS)
    Additional Details:
    Cap dump for the Sharks
    SJS
      DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
      2021
      MTL
      WPG
      LAK
      SJS
      WPG
      2022
      WPG
      WPG
      SJS
      WPG
      CBJ
      WPG
      WPG
      WPG
      2023
      WPG
      WPG
      WPG
      WPG
      WPG
      WPG
      WPG
      ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
      24$81,500,000$73,998,812$145,122$2,257,500$7,501,188
      Left WingCenterRight Wing
      WPG
      Connor, Kyle
      $7,142,857
      LW
      UFA - 5
      WPG
      Scheifele, Mark
      $6,125,000
      C
      NTC
      UFA - 3
      WPG
      Wheeler, Blake
      $8,250,000
      RW, C
      NMC
      UFA - 3
      WPG
      Perfetti, Cole
      $894,167
      C
      RFA - 3
      WPG
      Lowry, Adam
      $3,250,000
      C
      NTC
      UFA - 5
      WPG
      Ehlers, Nikolaj
      $6,000,000
      RW, LW
      UFA - 4
      Lehkonen, Artturi
      $2,750,000
      LW, RW
      RFA
      Patrick, Nolan
      $1,800,000
      C, RW
      RFA
      WPG
      Appleton, Mason
      $900,000
      RW, C
      RFA - 1
      WPG
      Perreault, Mathieu
      $1,750,000
      LW, RW
      UFA
      Zajac, Travis
      $1,600,000
      C
      UFA
      PHI
      Aubé-Kubel, Nicolas
      $1,075,000
      RW
      RFA - 1
      Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
      WPG
      Morrissey, Joshua
      $6,250,000
      LD
      UFA - 7
      NYR
      Lundkvist, Nils
      $925,000
      RD
      RFA - 3
      WPG
      Hellebuyck, Connor
      $6,166,666
      G
      UFA - 3
      WPG
      Heinola, Ville
      $863,333
      LD
      RFA - 3
      STL
      Parayko, Colton
      $5,500,000
      RD
      UFA - 1
      WPG
      Brossoit, Laurent
      $2,300,000
      G
      UFA
      SJS
      Simek, Radim
      $2,250,000
      LD
      UFA - 3
      Montour, Brandon
      $4,350,000
      LD/RD
      UFA
      ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
      WPG
      Vesalainen, Kristian
      $894,167
      LW, RW
      RFA - 1
      WPG
      Little, Bryan
      $5,291,667
      C, RW
      NTC
      UFA - 3
      WPG
      Gustafsson, David
      $817,500
      C
      RFA - 1
      WPG
      Beaulieu, Nathan
      $1,250,000
      LD/RD
      UFA - 1
      WPG
      Berdin, Mikhail
      $750,000
      G
      RFA - 2

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      Jun 9 at 7:22
      #1
      StarWars addict here
      Joined: May 2017
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      Yeah that'll be a quick no from us, an A- D prospect is worth way more than a middle sixer
      mhroblak, GMs, HOCKEYBOY448 and 1 other person liked this.
      Jun 9 at 7:24
      #2
      Joined: Oct 2019
      Posts: 258
      Likes: 286
      Pionk isn't really the kind of d-man Philly needs, but I'd do that trade.
      Jun 9 at 7:25
      #3
      Thread Starter
      Scheif for Lady Byng
      Joined: May 2021
      Posts: 151
      Likes: 51
      Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
      Yeah that'll be a quick no from us, an A- D prospect is worth way more than a middle sixer


      You’ll need a second line centre when Strome leaves and he will leave
      Jun 9 at 7:28
      #4
      Dach is Elite
      Joined: May 2021
      Posts: 1,632
      Likes: 514
      You mean dumping out everything we need?
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      Jun 9 at 7:28
      #5
      Carterman13
      Joined: May 2016
      Posts: 2,370
      Likes: 316
      That Dubois trade is terrible. Sure he didn’t have a great playoffs but that’s a terrible return. Also trading our best dMan in Pionk for a walking concussion and a 4th liner?
      MisstheWhalers liked this.
      Jun 9 at 7:29
      #6
      Thread Starter
      Scheif for Lady Byng
      Joined: May 2021
      Posts: 151
      Likes: 51
      Quoting: IconicHawk
      You mean dumping out everything we need?


      What? Besides Copp and maybe the prospect that went with him who did I send away that’s of any value? Our defence is horrific so please don’t name any of them
      Jun 9 at 7:30
      #7
      Thread Starter
      Scheif for Lady Byng
      Joined: May 2021
      Posts: 151
      Likes: 51
      Quoting: Carterman13
      That Dubois trade is terrible. Sure he didn’t have a great playoffs but that’s a terrible return. Also trading our best dMan in Pionk for a walking concussion and a 4th liner?


      Pionk is incredibly average and Dubois is bad
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      Jun 9 at 7:31
      #8
      Carterman13
      Joined: May 2016
      Posts: 2,370
      Likes: 316
      Quoting: Grapevine
      Pionk is incredibly average and Dubois is bad


      Dubois is not bad. Bad season yes. But he’s in a new environment. Give him at least a full year. And Pionk is above average. They are worth way more than what you say they are worth.
      sk540 liked this.
      Jun 9 at 7:31
      #9
      Dach is Elite
      Joined: May 2021
      Posts: 1,632
      Likes: 514
      Quoting: Grapevine
      Pionk is incredibly average and Dubois is bad


      Keep in mind their both still young and there’s room for them to grow
      Jun 9 at 7:32
      #10
      Carterman13
      Joined: May 2016
      Posts: 2,370
      Likes: 316
      Huge overpay for a bad player in Montour
      Jun 9 at 7:32
      #11
      Carterman13
      Joined: May 2016
      Posts: 2,370
      Likes: 316
      Also how do you expect to win with Lowry as C2
      HOCKEYBOY448 liked this.
      Jun 9 at 7:33
      #12
      Wants Carson Soucy
      Joined: Aug 2020
      Posts: 1,643
      Likes: 691
      Quoting: Grapevine
      You’ll need a second line centre when Strome leaves and he will leave


      A third line center does not cost Nils Lundkvist.
      HOCKEYBOY448 liked this.
      Jun 9 at 7:33
      #13
      Thread Starter
      Scheif for Lady Byng
      Joined: May 2021
      Posts: 151
      Likes: 51
      Quoting: mhroblak
      A third line center does not cost Nils Lundkvist.


      He’s a second line centre on most teams and one of those is your team that needs centres
      Jun 9 at 7:35
      #14
      StarWars addict here
      Joined: May 2017
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      Quoting: Grapevine
      You’ll need a second line centre when Strome leaves and he will leave


      Chytil is his name and he's slowly becoming a 2C
      HOCKEYBOY448 and Chopper02 liked this.
      Jun 9 at 7:36
      #15
      Joined: Mar 2017
      Posts: 317
      Likes: 79
      Demelo is getting protected he was arguably our best d man this year
      Jun 9 at 7:36
      #16
      Wants Carson Soucy
      Joined: Aug 2020
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      Quoting: Grapevine
      He’s a second line centre on most teams and one of those is your team that needs centres


      If the Rangers targeted Copp he wouldn't be the long-term second line center in their mind. They're looking for a battery with Zibanejad and another center.
      HOCKEYBOY448 liked this.
      Jun 9 at 7:36
      #17
      Thread Starter
      Scheif for Lady Byng
      Joined: May 2021
      Posts: 151
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      Quoting: Carter_chevy
      Demelo is getting protected he was arguably our best d man this year


      We don’t really have any defenceman worry protecting. All we can hope for is the kids end up being good
      Jun 9 at 7:44
      #18
      Joined: Jan 2017
      Posts: 2,727
      Likes: 1,254
      Quoting: Grapevine
      You’ll need a second line centre when Strome leaves and he will leave


      That’s a crap deal for us. Copp is not the solution to our center problem. Plus I’d rather Strome (even if only for 1 more year) and Lundkvist than Copp.
      Jun 9 at 7:44
      #19
      Joined: Jan 2017
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      Quoting: Grapevine
      You’ll need a second line centre when Strome leaves and he will leave


      Chytil will be fine for them. Also, Blues say no.
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      Jun 9 at 7:45
      #20
      Joined: Mar 2017
      Posts: 317
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      Quoting: Grapevine
      We don’t really have any defenceman worry protecting. All we can hope for is the kids end up being good


      But we shouldn’t be giving them any assets to take demelo. Let them take Stanley or Appleton and move on
      Jun 9 at 7:55
      #21
      Joined: May 2019
      Posts: 9,806
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      I don't know why people on this website don't like Copp
      I'd love to have him.
      Jun 9 at 8:00
      #22
      MisstheWhalers
      Joined: Jan 2019
      Posts: 14,117
      Likes: 6,207
      That Philly trade is really bad for the Jets.
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      Jun 9 at 8:03
      #23
      Kravtsov_Stan
      Joined: Sep 2020
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      Quoting: Grapevine
      You’ll need a second line centre when Strome leaves and he will leave


      We got Chytil and if not Chytil we have FA
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      Jun 9 at 8:16
      #24
      Joined: Apr 2018
      Posts: 544
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      Quoting: MisstheWhalers
      That Philly trade is really bad for the Jets.


      Sure is, can't believe some Flyers fans wouldn't do this trade in an absolute heartbeat
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      Jun 9 at 8:18
      #25
      Joined: Apr 2018
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      Quoting: krzyk0
      Pionk isn't really the kind of d-man Philly needs, but I'd do that trade.


      Philly needs about every time of dman right now, our D is in shambles. I mean I've never seen young guys all take a step back on a d corps in my life. Any good dmen that we acquire will be a welcomed addition. Let's hope we can get a true top pairing guy cause that will go a long way for our team in general, but also hopefully getting one of Provy or Sanheim (i'm praying its a RHD shot dman) back on track.
       
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