I don’t think you can get Greenway unless your Minnesota

Maybe Chytil idk if NYR would be interested in that swap. Maybe Strome also but that doesn't make sense cap-wise for us with him being an upcoming UFA.

I’d love Chytil, but more realistically I’d explore something with Georgiev.

Done. Georgiev for Greenway straight up

I think this would be a bad move tbh, you have too many wingers already

I don’t hate it. I’m interested to see what the Wild do with him.

God no, I'd rather just look into moving up 5-7 spots in this years draft and just draft either Wallstedt or Cossa if we're looking to replace Lindberg in our depth chart or Talbot down the stretch.

At least that way you're possibly nabbing a franchise goalie, which Georgiev definitely is not, and I have my doubts he'll be a reliable 1b type either. We already have Kahkonen for that. Furthermore, Greenway's value is probably around a late 1st. Georgiev is likely around a late 2nd or 3rd round pick. Rags would have to add, because we're getting fleeced in a 1v1.

If it was for either Strome or Chytil, different story, as that would be a fair price point for both teams.

Chytil is the obvious answer.

Not done. Absolutely not done. Georgiev might be the secondary asset for Greenway, maybe. Not the only one.

I had that idea a few days before the draft lottery in 2020 and it was ruined lol

I don’t think Greenway’s value is that high. Georgiev would be what the package is built around and I wouldn’t do it 1 for 1. I’m not sold on Kaapo yet, hopefully I get there next year but I can’t in good faith say he will be a tandem pairing.

I also don’t think NYR would part with the pieces we would be interested in, such as Strome or Chytil. I get the sense we will move Greener, but his value is still way up in the air.

I wouldn't really be happy with anything less than Chytil, but I'm not sure the Rangers would move him for Greenway.

Edit: I have no interest in Georgiev

It wouldn't be just for Georgie - as you can see many Rangers fans on this thread are quick to jump to do it. Rangers are looking to add more grit to the lineup which Greenway provides and correct me if i am wrong, Wild are looking to add more scoring. Think Strome might fit that build but you'll hear that he played like that due to playing with Panarin, a fair assessment but thought Strome played well even without Panarin being in the lineup.

Curious if there is even a possibility of a Georgie/Greenway swap plus a swap of our first rounders.

Your pick is 15, ours is 21. There's not enough value there in this draft to make up the difference between Greenway and Georgiev. Maybe you swap Pittsburgh's 25 and your 15, but that's still an extremely underwhelming return for the Wild when Georgiev hasn't proven he's anything more than a decent backup goaltender, and at 25, may never be anything more. Those players just aren't valuable. We acquired Cam Talbot, a better player, for free this summer.

Ya i hear you, was more inclined to say 25 for 15 rather than 21.

I disagree, his value was most typically viewed as an early 2nd before the start of the season. Given his level of play and overall increase and improvement this year, even if it was inconsistent towards the end, I think it’s safe to say his value rose to at least a late-1st.

To put this in perspective, goalies aren't worth much in this league.

Jake Allen went to MTL for only a 3rd and a 5th.

Dubnyk went for a 5th in this year's upcoming draft and half retention to San Jose, and then for another 5th to the Aves.

Matt Murray was traded to Ottawa for a C-level prospect and a 2020 2nd.

Georgiev is definitely worth more than Doobs, but definitely not more than either Allen or Murray. There is no scenario where Georgiev is worth Greenway in a standalone strait up swap. None.

And the piece you add to Georgiev to get Greenway is more valuable than Georgiev himself.

Agreed on the straight up swap. I’m also sympathetic to your argument about him improving his value this year, but I’m trying to be more conservative with what our assets are worth at this point.

In my eyes, if you get a late 1st or a Kunin package you take it and run. And FWIW, I’m on board with your assessment of Georgiev. My coffee hadn’t kicked yet. ☕️

Most likely, but I'll be the first to admit I'm not quite sure what that piece would be. If it was the swap of 1st's talked about above, I probably would pull that trigger and look to either draft McTavish or Raty in that spot, or again possibly go after either Wallstedt or Cossa.

If it's a prospect, even though NYR prospect pool is deep, I probably try and get Kravstov or Lundkvist if I can. But I'm not sure the Rags would agree to that.

Nils is our top prospect and they are high on Kravtsov. So most likely not either of those two, could see maybe someone like Karl Henrikkson. 2nd Round center from 2019 potentially.

I’d assume Lundkvist and Kravstov are off the table here, so it would be the 1st swap. Let’s say we offer Seattle their choice of Georgiev/Kaapo to take Rask as well (this has strategic holes, I know). Are we happy with that scenario? I think Cossa is available there.

The more I think about it, the more I don’t want to trade with NYR.

Oh, I agree on both Nils and Kravtsov. But if I'm Guerin I'd try and push for one of those two. Nils is unlikely but I'd still think there'd be a reasonable chance at Kravtsov.


Henrikkson is an ok prospect but I'm not not sure if he moves the needle enough, although some late round pick could be added to even out things.

Realistically, the the swap of 1st's idea is probably the most ideal for both sides involved.

I keep Kaapo over Georgiev 100/100 times.

I'd happily throw Georgiev and the rights to Menell to Seattle to take Rask.

I'd take that swap of 1st's and use it to draft Cossa. Then move Dumba on top of that to Philly for either Patrick/Frost and their 2021 1st and then use that pick to pick up McTavish or Raty.

That sir, is a plan. We can save the Dumba talk for a different thread.

Agreed, was just throwing that quibble of a quickie out to show where my head was at, and what the ol' wheels in gears were cranking out in possible scenarios that it could go to.