MTL passes on that

Lol, we will keep KK thanks. He looks awesome right now.

Who the **** thinks Kutz vs KK makes senses from MTL ?
Anyone ?

He has 4 goals in 10 games.

50.98cf% 51.77ff% 49.33xgf%

That’s awesome ?

He has lackluster numbers. I believe he’s averaged 25p/ 82games the last 2 season. Hab fans glorify the crap out of this kid lol my god. Kuzy immediately comes in and becomes their best center. Wtf would Washington do this. They get a downgrade at 2c (kk) and Drouin is average at best and overpaid. Kk is basically a younger version of Eller.

Capitals also. How does this help them win now? Look up Kotkaniemi numbers. He’s built like a good 3c far from a guy I would trust in my top 6 right now. He’s overhyped atm. He could turn into a top 6 guy but hardly is that right now

It ain't a win-now move for the Caps. That's for sure. My logic was that it opened up enough cap space to give Ovechkin and Samsonov raises, and in another couple years if two of Kotkaniemi, McMichael, and Lapierre pan out, the Caps could end up pretty good. But next Spring they'd end up scrambling to add a #2C at the deadline, or playing Eller there, and neither situation is ideal. Might make more sense to keep Kuznetsov if they can make that work.

If it “ain’t win now” then why waste Ovechkin time. Just let him go to a really contender.. this leaves a massive gap in arguably the most important position in hockey. Capitals have McM Lappy and Protas we are already set down the middle no need to at another guy who if everything goes right might be a good 2c. Realistically he screams 3c cough cough Eller. Plus you add Drouin who is not good and doesn’t fit into the top 6. Is keep Kuzy bc his reward > risk. Dude had 16p in the last 20 go. He’s still really good

No offence, but this might be one of the worst ACGM's I've seen - take this for constructive criticism and not insulting.

First of, you can't "heavily front-load Ovechkin's deal. There's parameters that it's needs to be structured within. And I believe the last season's salary can't dip below 10% of the total value of the contact. That would mean that the last season of the deal you offered can't fall below $4.8M in total salary. You're going to have a hard time "heavily front-loading" a deal if your last season can't dip below that much.

Now the trade. Honestly, it's just awful. Kotkaniemi has proven to be a legitimate playoff performer which means there's potential there for him to be a dominant centre all year round. His value is already substantially more than Kuznetsov's. Drouin also isn't a negative value asset right now. He's been plagued by injury and mental health issues over the last 2 seasons, but again he's proven to be a playoff performer and in the regular season he's a 50 point player. At only $5.5M AAV, that's a relatively fair deal for him. Might be slightly overpaid but not by much. Kuznetsov is a declining asset with multiple off-ice (drugs) issues. He's overpaid for what he produces, and his only good playoff performance (mind you it was exceptional) was the year they won the cup. But that was 4 seasons ago. He's more of a negative asset than Drouin would be and even Kuznetsov isn't a negative asset.

Honestly, Montreal doesn't really need a centre with Kotkaniemi and Suzuki already being there long term (although Suzuki may be better suited for the wing) but they can draft and develop a centre if they choose to move Suzuki to the wing instead of giving up Kotkaniemi for no reason.

So I apologize if this comes off as harsh, but this is awful. Needs a lot of work actually.

You say this kind of stuff to a lot of things I post. And to a lot of stuff Leafs fans post. No need to apologize because no one gets their feelings hurt by anyone they don't believe.

Corrections: Kuznetsov's 32 point postseason was three years ago in 2018. It's 2021. Since then he has eleven postseason points. Kotkaniemi, in twenty career games, has eight.



Makes sense. Should I delete this?

Wow. The arrogance here.

But good of you to only believe that a postseason performance is built only around point production. But tell me, how many playoff goals does Kuznetsov have since winning the cup? By my count it's 4 goals in 18 games and actually 0 GWG since then as well. But Kotkaneiemi has 8 in 20 games since that same time and has a GWG. So if you're basing things around point now, and with goals being the most important stat of points, tell me, how is Kuznetsov better then?

Get off the high of winning the cup and not realizing that Kuznetsov is a decling asset while Kotkaniemi is still a young and developing one and is actually outscoring Kuznetsov in the playoffs when it matters. But sure, keep thinking that Kuznetsov is worth Kotkaniemi. It makes for a good laugh.

Kutz will be at the bar taking some cocaine, no thanks

35+ contracts have been contrived to prevent the exact same thing you're trying to do with Ovechkin.

It does provide a disincentive. But not a serious one when you're talking about a guy with all three MVP awards who's gonna take over the goal scoring lead sometime in the next six years.

8 pts in 20 games is .400 p/g.
62 ppoints in 81 games is .765 p/g.

Kotkanimi is younger, though. You got that part right, and it does help his trade value a lot.

8 goals in his last 20 playoff games compared to 4 in Kuznetsov last 18...

Zero assists in that time compared to seven. Hey. That adds up to Kuznetsov having more playoff points in that time, in fewer games. Amazing.

When you give Ovechkin 8 years when he’s 36 by next season……

Everyone can debate whose better, has more value, etc, till the cows come home. It doesn't really matter.

Does Kuznetsov seem like the kind of player with the kind of character, MB would go out to acquire?

Its really a simple answer. No.

The closest type of player MB has acquired that plays similar to what Kuzy can do is Drouin and we all know how that turned out. This playoff run has shown exactly what type of player MB wants.

Its not Kuzy's talent that is stopping MB from acquiring him. Its his baggage that goes along with him that is stopping him.

You need to understand that the lazy narrative on this site is Kuzy sucks. People are too lazy to look into it and just regenerate other peoples lazy opinions till now it’s like COVID on this site. Everyone has it and no one knows how or why but it’s now part of their opinion.

Lol expected this level of intelligence. “KK is playing amazing” dude has 4 goals lol calm down lol like JFC he’s playing good but he’s not amazing maybe good? Maybe he should do some lines kid looks average. 25p/82g season pace is borderline bust level. He can get better but stop glorifying mediocre it’s embarrassing

Let's not kid yourself here kid, assists aren't valued as much as goals. Scoring the goal is always more valuable and it's the hardest thing in the sport to do. So he got an assist? I haven't checked but how many of those are secondary?

When did I ever glorify Kotkaniemi ? I’m saying Kutz so MTL is absurd because of Kutz attitude

Ah. Classic case of "I want your 20 y.o. Talent, playing down his value by comparing his stats to a 30 y.o."

Not interested to trade away our future for your drug addict. So silly to have to even explain this.

lol this AGM is pointless.

From Habs perspective Kuznetsov won't fit with Habs due to his off-ice attitude.

From Caps perspective Right now Kuznetsov is the better player and Caps are sort of in win-mode so why bother waiting for KK to develop (IF he ever reach Kopitar/Barkov as predicted at the draft)?
By the time KK reach his peak, will Ovechkin, Backstrom and Carlson still be as good as they are now?