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What Sources are Indicating

Created by: Sabres_Insider
Initial Creation Date: Jun 16, 2021
Published: Jun 16 at 10:44
Team: 2020-21 Buffalo Sabres
Team Explanation
1st- Owen Power
3rd- William Eklund
9th- Mason McTavish

I tried to make these trades fair
Free Agent Signings
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Power, Owen3$925,000
Eklund, William3$925,000
Trades
BUF
    SEA
    1. Asplund, Rasmus
    Additional Details:
    I really think they should expose Thompson over him but at the current moment Asplund is the one to go.

    Maybe they could send a pick for Seattle to pick Miller
    BUF
    1. Comtois, Maxime
    2. Dostal, Lukas
    3. Henrique, Adam
    4. Terry, Troy
    5. 2021 1st round pick (ANA)
    6. 2022 2nd round pick (ANA)
    Additional Details:
    We aren't getting Zegras or Drysdale. Its obvious

    Pick is 3rd overall

    Henrique for cap
    ANA
    1. Eichel, Jack
    BUF
    1. Juolevi, Olli
    2. Beagle, Jay
    3. Truscott, Jacob [Reserve List]
    4. 2021 1st round pick (VAN)
    Additional Details:
    9th Overall

    We could take back another contract if you don't want to get rid of Truscott
    VAN
    1. Reinhart, Sam
    2. Murray, Brett
    BUF
    1. Boqvist, Jesper
    2. 2022 2nd round pick (NJD)
    NJD
    1. Ristolainen, Rasmus
    2. 2021 2nd round pick (BOS)
    BUF
    1. 2022 2nd round pick (WSH)
    IDK
    DET
    1. Thompson, Tage
    BUF
    1. 2021 4th round pick (BOS)
    2. 2022 4th round pick (BOS)
    BOS
    1. Miller, Colin
    Buyouts
    • Cody Hodgson: $791,667
    • Christian Ehrhoff: $0
    Retained Salary Transactions
    • Eric Staal: $1,625,000 (50%)
    • Taylor Hall: $4,000,000 (50%)
    Buried
    • Jake McCabe: $1,775,000 ($2,850,000)
    • Cody Eakin: $1,175,000 ($2,250,000)
    • Linus Ullmark: $1,525,000 ($2,600,000)
    • Carter Hutton: $1,675,000 ($2,750,000)
    DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
    2021
    BUF
    ANA
    VAN
    BUF
    FLA
    MTL
    BUF
    BOS
    MTL
    BUF
    COL
    BUF
    2022
    BUF
    BUF
    ANA
    NJD
    WSH
    BUF
    BUF
    BOS
    BUF
    BUF
    2023
    BUF
    BUF
    BUF
    BUF
    BUF
    BUF
    BUF
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
    24$81,500,000$60,384,957$1,487,500$5,452,500$21,115,043

    Roster

    Left WingCenterRight Wing
    ANA
    Comtois, Maxime
    $820,000
    C, LW
    RFA - 1
    BUF
    Cozens, Dylan
    $894,167
    C, LW
    RFA - 3
    BUF
    Ruotsalainen, Arttu
    $925,000
    C, LW
    RFA - 2
    BUF
    Bjork, Anders
    $1,600,000
    LW, RW
    RFA - 3
    BUF
    Mittelstadt, Casey
    $874,125
    C
    RFA - 1
    BUF
    Olofsson, Victor
    $3,050,000
    LW, RW
    RFA - 2
    Eklund, William
    $925,000
    ANA
    Henrique, Adam
    $5,825,000
    C
    NTC
    UFA - 4
    BUF
    Skinner, Jeff
    $9,000,000
    LW, RW
    NMC
    UFA - 7
    NJD
    Boqvist, Jesper
    $925,000
    C, LW, RW
    RFA - 2
    BUF
    Girgensons, Zemgus
    $2,200,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 3
    ANA
    Terry, Troy
    $1,450,000
    RW, C
    RFA - 3
    BUF
    Quinn, Jack
    $925,000
    RW
    RFA - 4
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    BUF
    Dahlin, Rasmus
    $925,000
    LD
    RFA - 1
    BUF
    Borgen, William
    $864,166
    RD
    RFA - 1
    BUF
    Luukkonen, Ukko-Pekka
    $778,333
    G
    RFA - 2
    BUF
    Samuelsson, Mattias
    $925,000
    LD
    RFA - 3
    BUF
    Jokiharju, Henri
    $925,000
    RD
    RFA - 1
    ANA
    Dostal, Lukas
    $822,500
    G
    RFA - 3
    Power, Owen
    $925,000
    VAN
    Juolevi, Olli
    $863,333
    LD
    RFA - 1
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    VAN
    Beagle, Jay
    $3,000,000
    C
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    BUF
    Bryson, Jacob
    $889,166
    LD
    RFA - 2
    BUF
    Okposo, Kyle
    $6,000,000
    RW
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    Taxi Squad
    BUF
    Davidson, Brandon
    $700,000 ($0)
    LD
    UFA - 1

    Special Teams

    Power Play 1
    Ruotsalainen, A.
    Cozens, D.
    Comtois, M.
    Mittelstadt, C.
    Dahlin, R.
    Power Play 2
    Bjork, A.
    Henrique, A.
    Olofsson, V.
    Jokiharju, H.
    Skinner, J.

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    Jun 16 at 10:48
    #1
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    Actually, I think it would be pretty fair to assume that one of Drysdale or Zegras be included in any deal with Anaheim.

    There may be some injury concerns but, its still Jack Eichel. Big, strong, scoring top line franchise centres don't grow on trees.

    I don't think that asking for one of those two blue chippers would be out of the question at all and the Sabres would be justified in doing so.
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    Jun 16 at 10:48
    #2
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    You dont get that much out of ANA either. Take out Terry Dotsal and the second and thats the ceiling of what Eichel returns. His injury lowers his value, and if ANA isnt on the same page as him surgery wise it gets even lower

    Ducks can take on Eichel without trading cap back, Henrique has positive value in an Eichel deal not negative
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    Jun 16 at 10:49
    #3
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    Quoting: Trevorchef
    Actually, I think it would be pretty fair to assume that one of Drysdale or Zegras be included in any deal with Anaheim.

    There may be some injury concerns but, its still Jack Eichel. Big, strong, scoring top line franchise centres don't grow on trees.

    I don't think that asking for one of those two blue chippers would be out of the question at all and the Sabres would be justified in doing so.


    Already been reported they are both untouchable
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    Jun 16 at 10:50
    #4
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    Quoting: Salzy
    You dont get that much out of ANA either. Take out Terry Dotsal and the second and thats the ceiling of what Eichel returns. His injury lowers his value, and if ANA isnt on the same page as him surgery wise it gets even lower

    Ducks can take on Eichel without trading cap back, Henrique has positive value in an Eichel deal not negative


    ya no chance
    Jun 16 at 10:52
    #5
    Lenny7
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    Quoting: Trevorchef
    Actually, I think it would be pretty fair to assume that one of Drysdale or Zegras be included in any deal with Anaheim.

    There may be some injury concerns but, its still Jack Eichel. Big, strong, scoring top line franchise centres don't grow on trees.

    I don't think that asking for one of those two blue chippers would be out of the question at all and the Sabres would be justified in doing so.


    I don't disagree that Buf would be asking for one of them, I just don't know how it would make any sense for the Ducks to do it? Like, adding Eichel would be fun and all, but thinking that moving the farm for him will somehow lift you from 2nd worst in the league to anything even close to competitive is laughable. Anaheim assumes wayyyy too much risk here.
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    Jun 16 at 10:53
    #6
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    Quoting: Sabres_Insider
    ya no chance


    Keep living in denial my friend
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    Jun 16 at 11:00
    #7
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    why would Anaheim even consider trading for Eichel?
    it's not like they are an Eichel away from contending. not to mention that any trade for Eichel will only set them further behind.
    i agree that Anaheim has the assets for an Eichel trade, just don't agree that it makes sense for them at this point.
    Jun 16 at 11:00
    #8
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    Beniers over Eklund and Wallstedt over MacTavish.

    As for the trade returns? They are very underwhelming.
    Jun 16 at 11:01
    #9
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    Quoting: Lenny7
    I don't disagree that Buf would be asking for one of them, I just don't know how it would make any sense for the Ducks to do it? Like, adding Eichel would be fun and all, but thinking that moving the farm for him will somehow lift you from 2nd worst in the league to anything even close to competitive is laughable. Anaheim assumes wayyyy too much risk here.


    Thats fair, and so they should. Any Eichel trade would have to come with either the assurance that he is healthy enough to play or a very pre-agreed upon understanding of recovery time after surgery to properly use LTIR.

    If the Sabres asked for Drysdale + Henrique (for salary purposes) + The 3rd overall pick.... Would the ducks do it?

    I think that would be a very fair return for Buffalo IF the Ducks know exactly what they are getting in Eichel.
    Jun 16 at 11:10
    #10
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    not getting Joulevi or Trescott, or this years 1st from Vancouver
    Jun 16 at 11:11
    #11
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    Quoting: Salzy
    Keep living in denial my friend


    so comtois henrique and a 1st
    Jun 16 at 11:12
    #12
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    Quoting: Shnooks
    Beniers over Eklund and Wallstedt over MacTavish.

    As for the trade returns? They are very underwhelming.


    eklund 100%
    Jun 16 at 11:14
    #13
    Buffbry
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    Wings also pass, makes 0 sense for them and a big overpayment
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    Jun 16 at 11:16
    #14
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    Devils decline
    Jun 16 at 11:18
    #15
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    Quoting: Sabres_Insider
    so comtois henrique and a 1st


    I'd say the most I see ANA giving up would be Comtois + Henrique + 2021 3OA + Jacob Perreault

    I just dont see ANA giving up more than that, they arent a player away, I think they're 2ish years away from selling the farm for a player.

    I think BUF gets better returns from Minny, CBJ (3 firsts this draft), LAK. Those teams are in a better position than ANA to add an Eichel type player
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    Jun 16 at 11:27
    #16
    Lenny7
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    Quoting: Trevorchef
    Thats fair, and so they should. Any Eichel trade would have to come with either the assurance that he is healthy enough to play or a very pre-agreed upon understanding of recovery time after surgery to properly use LTIR.

    If the Sabres asked for Drysdale + Henrique (for salary purposes) + The 3rd overall pick.... Would the ducks do it?

    I think that would be a very fair return for Buffalo IF the Ducks know exactly what they are getting in Eichel.


    If this were a year in the future, I'd absolutely consider it. Honestly, it's like Zegras though. If we were an Eichel away from being competitive, I would absolutely consider trading him. But, we're not, and won't be for at least 2 years. I just think it's extremely short sighted to start moving picks and prospects when (at best) this moves you from 2nd worst to 9th-10th worst. Plus, even if you look past the injury stuff, what's to say Jack doesn't show up and say "Welp...you guys also suck...I'm going to demand a trade, but now I have the power of my NMC, which is going to absolutely f*ck you smile"
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    Jun 16 at 11:29
    #17
    Lenny7
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    Quoting: Salzy
    I'd say the most I see ANA giving up would be Comtois + Henrique + 2021 3OA + Jacob Perreault

    I just dont see ANA giving up more than that, they arent a player away, I think they're 2ish years away from selling the farm for a player.

    I think BUF gets better returns from Minny, CBJ (3 firsts this draft), LAK. Those teams are in a better position than ANA to add an Eichel type player


    Agreed. A new coach, plus somehow pairing Eichel/Laine together is a good way to try to drum up some ticket sales in CLB.
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    Jun 16 at 11:35
    #18
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    Lol tage thompson returning a 2nd
    Jun 16 at 11:50
    #19
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    Quoting: Drw4209
    Lol tage thompson returning a 2nd


    Not enough? wink
    Jun 16 at 11:51
    #20
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    Yeah Devs not giving a player who is just cracking the lineup. We're interested but not at that price, especially if we are taking the whole salary
    Jun 16 at 12:05
    #21
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    Quoting: yztnuK
    not getting Joulevi or Trescott, or this years 1st from Vancouver


    ya we are
    Jun 16 at 12:09
    #22
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    What sources?
    Jun 16 at 12:09
    #23
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    Quoting: Sabres_Insider
    ya we are


    No, No your not
    Jun 16 at 12:11
    #24
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    Quoting: sabrespain
    What sources?


    sources
    Jun 16 at 12:42
    #25
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    Quoting: Salzy
    I'd say the most I see ANA giving up would be Comtois + Henrique + 2021 3OA + Jacob Perreault

    I just dont see ANA giving up more than that, they arent a player away, I think they're 2ish years away from selling the farm for a player.

    I think BUF gets better returns from Minny, CBJ (3 firsts this draft), LAK. Those teams are in a better position than ANA to add an Eichel type player


    I dont even seeing Perreault being added to this deal. I could see them adding in Tracy to the deal.

    Just a guess it would be Comtois, Henrique, 2021 first and Tracy/Thrun.

    Ducks really dont have to throw henrique in for Cap, cause they have Cap space already. And you cant call henrique a "Cap dump" He is versitle and is a great leader. he performed very well in the worlds. His salary may be a tad inflated. But he was on pace for 30 goals the year before and would have hit it if not for the shut down.
     
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