Revised Karlsson Trade

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Created by: Hockyluv21

Team: 2021-22 Carolina Hurricanes

Initial Creation Date: Jun. 17, 2021

Published: Jun. 17, 2021

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Bean, Jake	2	$1,300,000
Foegele, Warren	4	$2,580,000
Nedeljkovic, Alex	5	$3,800,000
Svechnikov, Andrei	2	$6,300,000
Geekie, Morgan	2	$800,000
Lajoie, Maxime	1	$750,000

UFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Reimer, James	2	$2,100,000
Hakanpää, Jani	3	$1,400,000
McCormick, Max	2	$750,000
Martinook, Jordan	2	$2,100,000
Coleman, Blake	4	$4,000,000

Trades

CAR

Karlsson, Erik ($2,500,000 retained)
2021 1st round pick (SJS)

SJS

Gardiner, Jake
2021 1st round pick (CAR)
2021 7th round pick (CAR)

CAR

Protected: Svechnikov, Aho, Teravainen, Staal, Trocheck, Niederreiter, Foegele, Slavin, Pesce, Bean, Nedeljkovic

SEA

Fast, Jesper

CAR

2021 1st round pick (WPG)

WPG

Signing Rights to D Dougie Hamilton. Jets extend Hamilton for 7 years, $9.1M AAV.

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2021
2022
2023

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$81,500,000	$79,403,583	$0	$537,500	$2,096,417

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Svechnikov, Andrei $6,300,000$6,300,000 LW, RW UFA - 8	Aho, Sebastian $8,460,250$8,460,250 C UFA - 3	Teräväinen, Teuvo $5,400,000$5,400,000 LW, RW UFA - 3
Niederreiter, Nino $5,250,000$5,250,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Trocheck, Vincent $4,750,000$4,750,000 C, RW UFA - 1	Necas, Martin $863,333$863,333 ($537,500$538K) RW RFA - 1
Coleman, Blake $4,000,000$4,000,000 RW, LW UFA - 6	Staal, Jordan $6,000,000$6,000,000 C, LW NMC UFA - 2	Foegele, Warren $2,580,000$2,580,000 LW, RW UFA - 3
Martinook, Jordan $2,100,000$2,100,000 LW, RW UFA - 3	Lorentz, Steven $725,000$725,000 C, LW, RW UFA - 1	Geekie, Morgan $800,000$800,000 C, RW RFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Slavin, Jaccob $5,300,000$5,300,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 4	Karlsson, Erik $7,500,000$7,500,000 RD NMC UFA - 6
Skjei, Brady $5,250,000$5,250,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 3	Pesce, Brett $4,025,000$4,025,000 RD UFA - 3
	Hakanpää, Jani $1,400,000$1,400,000 RD UFA - 3	Nedeljkovic, Alex $3,800,000$3,800,000 G UFA - 2
Bean, Jake $1,300,000$1,300,000 LD/RD RFA - 3		Reimer, James $2,100,000$2,100,000 G UFA - 2

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
McCormick, Max $750,000$750,000 LW UFA - 1
Lajoie, Maxime $750,000$750,000 LD RFA - 1

Jun. 17, 2021 at 4:42 p.m.

ecupirate07

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Gaining a high pick is cool and all but that pick would have to clear top 6 early on to be worth the difference in Hamilton and Karlsson over 6 years at about the same price

Jun. 17, 2021 at 4:44 p.m.

Hockyluv21

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Quoting: ecupirate07

Gaining a high pick is cool and all but that pick would have to clear top 6 early on to be worth the difference in Hamilton and Karlsson over 6 years at about the same price

It's about getting Karlsson for the same AAV as Hamilton would take, PLUS the #7 pick, for #26 and Gardiner. If Dougie truly is asking for too much, this is a way to use that cap space to actually generate an asset.

Jun. 17, 2021 at 4:45 p.m.

Klara

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SJ declines, not trading 1sts.

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Jun. 17, 2021 at 4:46 p.m.

Jetman

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WPG and SJS won't be trading their 1sts for those trades

Jun. 17, 2021 at 4:47 p.m.

Hockyluv21

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Quoting: Klara

SJ declines, not trading 1sts.

You're not trading out of the 1st entirely, though. This is a pick-swap in a questionable draft, where the value between a high 1st and a late 1st isn't all that big because of COVID and how it has impacted scouting.

Jun. 17, 2021 at 4:50 p.m.

Klara

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Quoting: Hockyluv21

The value between 7th overall and 26th is absolutely huge, no matter the draft, and especially this draft where after the top 12 or so, the quality drops of considerably.

Jun. 17, 2021 at 4:51 p.m.

Leafs_and_Sens_Fan

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Quoting: Hockyluv21

Gardiner is a cap dump. SJS have to give up an asset and retain and still have to take back a cap dump who can't play defense. I think I'm missing why SJS do this.

Jun. 17, 2021 at 4:52 p.m.

Leafs_and_Sens_Fan

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Maybe Burns for Gardiner straight up.

Jun. 17, 2021 at 4:54 p.m.

Hockyluv21

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Quoting: Klara

The value between 7th overall and 26th is absolutely huge, no matter the draft, and especially this draft where after the top 12 or so, the quality drops of considerably.

I look at it as the opposite. There's a huge disagreement between certain scouts about who the best players are in this draft, and you therefore are going to see a lot of players that (IMO) are some of the best players in the draft, like Raty, Robertsson, and Lysell, that potentially may fall into the 20s. This may be the best time in a long time to have a late 1st round pick.

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Jun. 17, 2021 at 4:56 p.m.

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Hockyluv21

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Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan

Gardiner is a cap dump. SJS have to give up an asset and retain and still have to take back a cap dump who can't play defense. I think I'm missing why SJS do this.

One cap dump is 6 years, the other one is 2. The gap in magnitude of the two dumps is huge in terms of AAV, as well.

Jun. 17, 2021 at 5:03 p.m.

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Jets won’t trade a 1st unless it’s a sign and trade.

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Jun. 17, 2021 at 5:09 p.m.

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Hockyluv21

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Quoting: Carterman13

Jets won’t trade a 1st unless it’s a sign and trade.

This would be a sign-and-trade.

Jun. 17, 2021 at 5:11 p.m.

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Carterman13

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Quoting: Hockyluv21

This would be a sign-and-trade.

Ok then yes I’d do it. But if it’s just for his rights then no

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Jun. 17, 2021 at 7:11 p.m.

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vikhodush

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Would rather just buy Gardiner out or stash him on LTIR if he’s getting another back surgery which sounds like it could be happening. Don’t want to be stuck with an aging Karlsson for 6 more years.

Jun. 17, 2021 at 8:42 p.m.

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If Hamilton wants to sign in Winnipeg I'd rather the Jets just go for 7 years and keep the first. In Dougie's case a 5-7 year contract is probably best.

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Jun. 17, 2021 at 10:17 p.m.

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Quoting: Windjammer

If Hamilton wants to sign in Winnipeg I'd rather the Jets just go for 7 years and keep the first. In Dougie's case a 5-7 year contract is probably best.

The risk is that Hamilton would choose somewhere else, of course. First-dibs and an extra year is a valuable thing, especially with an elite piece like Dougie.

Jun. 17, 2021 at 10:59 p.m.

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Quoting: Hockyluv21

The risk is that Hamilton would choose somewhere else, of course. First-dibs and an extra year is a valuable thing, especially with an elite piece like Dougie.

If he really wants to sign in Winnipeg he will, if he doesn't he doesn't. It's certainly not worth wasting a first to try and convince him.

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