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Ellis Dunn JG

Created by: DirtyDangles
Team: 2021-22 Philadelphia Flyers
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 18, 2021
Published: Jun. 18, 2021
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Acquiring Dunn allows York to take his time developing in a limited role and once ready Dunn can shift to the 3rd pair LD or 2nd pair RD spot depending on Myers progression.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$3,750,000
5$3,500,000
2$800,000
2$800,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$825,000
1$2,500,000
Trades
1.
PHI
SEA
2.
PHI
  1. Dunn, Vince [RFA Rights]
STL
  1. Gostisbehere, Shayne
  2. 2021 3rd round pick (PHI)
3.
4.
CBJ
  1. Fedotov, Ivan [Reserve List]
  2. 2021 2nd round pick (PHI)
5.
NSH
  1. Patrick, Nolan [RFA Rights]
  2. Sanheim, Travis [RFA Rights]
  3. 2021 1st round pick (PHI)
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2021
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2022
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2023
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$68,661,428$0$1,450,000$12,838,572
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$6,750,000$6,750,000
LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$4,333,333$4,333,333
C
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$600,000$600K)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333
C
RFA - 1
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$8,250,000$8,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
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$4,137,500$4,137,500
RW, C
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$3,571,429$3,571,429
C
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
RW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$3,000,000$3,000,000
C, LW
UFA - 5
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$925,000$925,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$3,000,000$3,000,000
LW
UFA - 2
$2,500,000$2,500,000
RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,725,000$4,725,000
LD
UFA - 4
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$6,250,000$6,250,000
RD
UFA - 6
$3,500,000$3,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$2,550,000$2,550,000
RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$880,833$880,833 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
LD/RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$1,800,000$1,800,000
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$3,750,000$3,750,000
G
RFA - 3
Logo of the Columbus Blue Jackets
$2,800,000$2,800,000
G
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$1,600,000$1,600,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$800,000$800,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
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$825,000$825,000
LD, LW
UFA - 1

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Jun. 18, 2021 at 1:42 p.m.
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Dunn is going to cost a ton more than that
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Jun. 18, 2021 at 1:43 p.m.
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Quoting: DH28Hockey
Dunn is going to cost a ton more than that


He shouldn't...it's not like he is a defensive dynamo or anything.
Jun. 18, 2021 at 1:48 p.m.
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Quoting: DirtyDangles
He shouldn't...it's not like he is a defensive dynamo or anything.


He's younger, more cost controlled, and has put up nearly identical offensive underlying metrics and better raw production totals than Ghost over the last 2 seasons. St. Louis isn't going to take Ghosts contract and a 3rd for him
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Jun. 18, 2021 at 1:48 p.m.
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NSH wouldn't be looking at Sanheim when they already have Josi and Ekholm on the left side.
Jun. 18, 2021 at 1:51 p.m.
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What's being added to Konecny to land Gaudreau?
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Jun. 18, 2021 at 2:01 p.m.
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Quoting: DH28Hockey
He's younger, more cost controlled, and has put up nearly identical offensive underlying metrics and better raw production totals than Ghost over the last 2 seasons. St. Louis isn't going to take Ghosts contract and a 3rd for him


They are very similar players and using that, nobody would sign Ghost to what he currently gets paid so why would they sign Dunn to something similar?
Jun. 18, 2021 at 2:01 p.m.
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What's being added to Konecny to land Gaudreau?


Nothing...you get a controlled asset for a guy that has 1 year left.
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Jun. 18, 2021 at 2:01 p.m.
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Quoting: villenash
NSH wouldn't be looking at Sanheim when they already have Josi and Ekholm on the left side.


Ekholm could be gone next year and Sanheim has played RD many times.
Jun. 18, 2021 at 2:07 p.m.
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Quoting: DirtyDangles
Ekholm could be gone next year and Sanheim has played RD many times.


Ekholm is more likely to be re-signed at this point -- and if Ekholm does end up leaving in a year, then they aren't trading Ellis.
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Jun. 18, 2021 at 2:11 p.m.
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That won't get it done for Dunn. Ghost has negative value at this point.
Jun. 18, 2021 at 2:14 p.m.
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Quoting: WeWentBlues19
That won't get it done for Dunn. Ghost has negative value at this point.


As I said above, they are basically the same player. Adding a 3rd for age differential/possible contract differential.
Jun. 18, 2021 at 2:35 p.m.
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Flames very very very easily decline, konecny has only ever had more than 60 points once and gaudreau has 5 times. Flames might consider it if gaudreau wasn’t gonna re-sign ( they probably still wouldn’t) but since gaudreau is gonna re-sign the flames very easily decline
Jun. 18, 2021 at 2:47 p.m.
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Quoting: DirtyDangles
Nothing...you get a controlled asset for a guy that has 1 year left.

Gaudreau would re-sign in Philly no problem, so no chance you get him for that.
Jun. 18, 2021 at 2:50 p.m.
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Quoting: Lunatik
Gaudreau would re-sign in Philly no problem, so no chance you get him for that.


Doesn't matter if he will...without an extension you don't get full price.
Jun. 18, 2021 at 2:57 p.m.
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Quoting: DirtyDangles
Doesn't matter if he will...without an extension you don't get full price.

Keep telling yourself that
Jun. 18, 2021 at 2:58 p.m.
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Keep telling yourself that


Have fun losing him to free agency next year!
Jun. 18, 2021 at 3:02 p.m.
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Quoting: DirtyDangles
Have fun losing him to free agency next year!


Flames aren't taking a clear downgrade and we're not worried about Gaudreau not re-signing.
Jun. 18, 2021 at 3:22 p.m.
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Quoting: DirtyDangles
As I said above, they are basically the same player. Adding a 3rd for age differential/possible contract differential.


One player is a 24 y/o RFA still with upside.
One went unclaimed on waivers this season.

They are not the same player.
Jun. 18, 2021 at 3:28 p.m.
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Quoting: WeWentBlues19
One player is a 24 y/o RFA still with upside.
One went unclaimed on waivers this season.

They are not the same player.


The stats say otherwise. Ghost's upside is a .84 pt/g season. Hard to claim Dunn has upside when he hasn't shown that. He has shown that he is a 25-35 pt guy. Ghost is basically a 35 pt guy every year at minimum.
Jun. 18, 2021 at 3:46 p.m.
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Quoting: DirtyDangles
Nothing...you get a controlled asset for a guy that has 1 year left.


Gaudreau has said he wants to extend this summer, if he does Gaudreau is way more valuable
Jun. 18, 2021 at 11:50 p.m.
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Quoting: DirtyDangles
As I said above, they are basically the same player. Adding a 3rd for age differential/possible contract differential.


Not the same player and even if they were (which again they aren't) your basically telling the blues to lock in on Gots contract as opposed to the one they will put in front of Dunn. Not only that but the only reason Dunn is being looked at for trades is because of the expansion draft. This just gives us another D we can't protect. The whole trade makes zero sense for STL
 
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