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Created by: Trevorchef
Initial Creation Date: Jun 18, 2021
Published: Jun 18 at 3:43
Team: 2021-22 Toronto Maple Leafs
Team Explanation
Goodrow and Coleman likely get more if there are enough suitors with cap space.

I wouldn't do this if I were Pittsburgh. They most likely wouldn't either.

Relax in advance Rielly lovers. He isn't worth much more than that as a player with one year left before UFA status. If it is a sign and trade or an extension is worked out in advance then maybe they could get more.

I have no use at all for either Mikheyev or Engvall. They are both overpaid 4th liners.

Seattle can have both Kerfoot and Dermott if they are willing to send back a 3rd. (Two decent pieces for them to get started with).

Unlikely Bernier would want to return to TO, so, pick your poison there. (1.5 to 2.0 million).

All in all, this team is much more balanced IMO.

There is no reason that they can't have highly skilled players in the top six and still fill out a competitive and balanced team if they are willing to get off of that "we are not trading a core player" crap.

Overvaluing your own is just as dangerous as moving off of one of them IMO.

Meh, whatever, let the complaining begin...
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Copp, Andrew3$3,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Hamilton, Dougie7$8,800,000
Goodrow, Barclay3$2,250,000
Caggiula, Drake2$900,000
Bernier, Jonathan2$1,500,000
Bogosian, Zach1$1,000,000
Coleman, Blake3$3,000,000
Foligno, Nick1$2,000,000
Trades
TOR
  1. 2021 3rd round pick (SEA)
SEA
  1. Kerfoot, Alexander
TOR
    Expansion Draft.
    SEA
    1. Dermott, Travis [RFA Rights]
    TOR
    1. 2021 4th round pick (NJD)
    NJD
    1. Mikheyev, Ilya
    TOR
    1. 2022 5th round pick (EDM)
    EDM
    1. Engvall, Pierre
    TOR
    1. Copp, Andrew [RFA Rights]
    2. 2021 2nd round pick (WPG)
    WPG
    1. Rielly, Morgan
    TOR
    1. Guentzel, Jake
    2. McCann, Jared
    PIT
    1. Marner, Mitchell
    Retained Salary Transactions
    • Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)
    DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
    2021
    TOR
    WPG
    SEA
    NJD
    TOR
    TOR
    2022
    TOR
    TOR
    EDM
    TOR
    2023
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
    22$81,500,000$80,450,116$0$400,000$1,049,884
    Left WingCenterRight Wing
    Coleman, Blake
    $3,000,000
    LW, RW
    NTC
    UFA - 6
    TOR
    Matthews, Auston
    $11,640,250
    C
    UFA - 3
    TOR
    Nylander, William
    $6,962,366
    RW, LW
    UFA - 3
    PIT
    McCann, Jared
    $2,940,000
    LW, C
    RFA - 1
    TOR
    Tavares, John
    $11,000,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    PIT
    Guentzel, Jake
    $6,000,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 3
    Goodrow, Barclay
    $2,250,000
    LW
    NTC
    UFA - 6
    Copp, Andrew
    $3,000,000
    C, LW
    RFA
    TOR
    Foligno, Nick
    $2,000,000
    LW, C, RW
    NMC
    UFA - 2
    Caggiula, Drake
    $900,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    TOR
    Brooks, Adam
    $725,000
    C
    RFA - 1
    TOR
    Spezza, Jason
    $750,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    TOR
    Brodie, TJ
    $5,000,000
    RD
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    Hamilton, Dougie
    $8,800,000
    RD
    NMC
    UFA - 7
    TOR
    Campbell, Jack
    $1,650,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    TOR
    Muzzin, Jake
    $5,625,000
    LD
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    TOR
    Holl, Justin
    $2,000,000
    RD
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    Bernier, Jonathan
    $1,500,000
    G
    UFA - 2
    TOR
    Sandin, Rasmus
    $894,167
    LD
    RFA - 1
    TOR
    Bogosian, Zach
    $1,000,000
    RD
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    TOR
    Anderson, Joey
    $750,000
    RW
    RFA - 2
    TOR
    Liljegren, Timothy
    $863,333
    RD
    RFA - 1

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    Jun 18 at 3:45
    #1
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    Why would teams give up assets for overpayed 4th liners in the flat cap era?
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    Jun 18 at 3:50
    #2
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    Quoting: PerpetuallySad
    Why would teams give up assets for overpayed 4th liners in the flat cap era?


    Some teams will place higher value on players who will help them get to the cap floor and still play a regular shift. That is a fact and those teams are out there, even in a flat cap era.
    Jun 18 at 3:52
    #3
    Llinder2016
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    I would absolutely do that WPG trade. I love what Copp does but I honestly think they keep him Him, Lowry and Appleton is a nice line for them
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    Jun 18 at 3:52
    #4
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    Ya, the Pens probably wouldn’t do this.

    Sid would be pissed if the traded Guentzel. So they probably won’t.

    Pens organization says they are looking for size, defense and a backup vet goalie. Guentzel is better defensively and plays more physical than Marner. The organization would probably rather Guentzel. I know Sid would.

    And the Pens like every competitive team right now are up against this flat cap. They are trying to shed salary, not take on. They are cash strapped and have RFAs to sign.I don’t think taking on Marner’s contract would be an option for them. Especially losing 2 top 6’s in the process too.
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    Jun 18 at 3:53
    #5
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    Quoting: SDSUFRATMAN
    I would absolutely do that WPG trade. I love what Copp does but I honestly think they keep him Him, Lowry and Appleton is a nice line for them


    You are most likely correct. They could use a puck mover on the left side D though. Hence the suggestion. Lots to it. Extension would be critical.
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    Jun 18 at 3:53
    #6
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    The only player I would actually want from Toronto that wouldn’t cost a arm and a leg to get it Alex Kerfoot. No one else.
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    Jun 18 at 3:56
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    Quoting: Nhl_oilers
    The only player I would actually want from Toronto that wouldn’t cost a arm and a leg to get it Alex Kerfoot. No one else.


    I wouldn't be so sure about that to be honest. The oilers need forward depth.

    That could just as easily be any team so, don't read too much into it from an oiler perspective.
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    Jun 18 at 3:57
    #8
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    Quoting: Trevorchef
    I wouldn't be so sure about that to be honest. The oilers need forward depth.

    That could just as easily be any team so, don't read too much into it from an oiler perspective.


    We do need depth, but he’s the only guy that fills a hole in our lineup that wouldn’t cost a fortune to get.
    Jun 18 at 3:58
    #9
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    Quoting: Trevorchef
    Some teams will place higher value on players who will help them get to the cap floor and still play a regular shift. That is a fact and those teams are out there, even in a flat cap era.


    The Oilers most definitely aren't a team trying to get to the cap floor. The Oilers are trying to improve a roster and spend to the cap... Engvall does nothing for us. Wouldn't take him for future consideration much less send a pick for him.
    Jun 18 at 4:02
    #10
    First NY Then LA
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    Some good ideas here as always, Trevor. Whether one agrees with them or not, they're food for thought.
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    Jun 18 at 4:08
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    Quoting: rpain
    The Oilers most definitely aren't a team trying to get to the cap floor. The Oilers are trying to improve a roster and spend to the cap... Engvall does nothing for us. Wouldn't take him for future consideration much less send a pick for him.


    As I said in a previous response... that could be any team. Don't read too much into it having anything to do with the Oilers. Just pretend its another team. The jist of the concept literally has NOTHING to do with a low level pick coming back from Edmonton. The Oilers trade, in this case, has very little to do with the idea.
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    Jun 18 at 4:10
    #12
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    Quoting: OldNYIfan
    Some good ideas here as always, Trevor. Whether one agrees with them or not, they're food for thought.


    I like food for thought.

    I don't see anything wrong with thinking outside of the box. Falling in love with your own players is as much of a curse as it is a blessing. It can blind people to the reality of the situation.

    Thanks bro! Cheers.
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    Jun 18 at 4:19
    #13
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    I think the Jets would consider it, but only if Copp won't re-sign in Winnipeg.
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    Jun 18 at 4:21
    #14
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    Quoting: Windjammer
    I think the Jets would consider it, but only if Copp won't re-sign in Winnipeg.


    It is a real hockey trade IMO. Win/Win on both sides providing there is an extension for Rielly.

    I think the return is fair too.
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    Jun 18 at 4:44
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    Quoting: LetsGoPens69
    Ya, the Pens probably wouldn’t do this.

    Sid would be pissed if the traded Guentzel. So they probably won’t.

    Pens organization says they are looking for size, defense and a backup vet goalie. Guentzel is better defensively and plays more physical than Marner. The organization would probably rather Guentzel. I know Sid would.

    And the Pens like every competitive team right now are up against this flat cap. They are trying to shed salary, not take on. They are cash strapped and have RFAs to sign.I don’t think taking on Marner’s contract would be an option for them. Especially losing 2 top 6’s in the process too.


    Yup Marner is not Brian Burke material. Not a bad trade though, I think it's fair honestly.
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    Jun 18 at 4:49
    #16
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    Quoting: PeterK
    Yup Marner is not Brian Burke material. Not a bad trade though, I think it's fair honestly.


    There are a lot of pros and cons on both sides and I truly understand not wanting to do it from both sides.

    Like I said earlier, I doubt that Pittsburgh would do it. I just like the idea of the "what if" aspects.

    Highly unlikely but, I do like the thought process.
    Jun 18 at 6:03
    #17
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    Quoting: Trevorchef
    Some teams will place higher value on players who will help them get to the cap floor and still play a regular shift. That is a fact and those teams are out there, even in a flat cap era.


    You think teams reaching the cap floor are spending assets to do that instead of weaponizing that cap space?
    Jun 18 at 6:29
    #18
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    Quoting: PerpetuallySad
    You think teams reaching the cap floor are spending assets to do that instead of weaponizing that cap space?


    Both will happen. There will be teams that make deals to get players that they feel they need and there will be teams that choose to use their cap space to better their chances accumulating assets.

    You can take that to the bank. It happens every year.
     
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