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Copp and Dunn

Created by: brad_habs
Initial Creation Date: Jun 18, 2021
Published: Jun 18 at 4:28
Team: 2021-22 Montreal Canadiens
Team Explanation
Sucks to not be able to bring Armia back after how good he's been this year, especially in the playoffs, but cap space will be a huge issue for the 22-23 season with Suzuki likely to get a hefty raise. They'll have to move Byron's contract out (easier/cheaper to do on his last year) and might even have to move Edmonson to make space.

Definitely raises the question of if they can really afford to bring Danault back or if they need to hope that Evans can fill the shutdown role.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Kotkaniemi, Jesperi3$3,000,000
Lehkonen, Artturi3$2,500,000
Poehling, Ryan2$950,000
Fleury, Cale2$950,000
Copp, Andrew4$3,500,000
Dunn, Vince4$3,500,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Perry, Corey1$1,000,000
Danault, Phillip5$5,000,000
Trades
MTL
  1. Copp, Andrew [RFA Rights]
Additional Details:
Assuming they don't need to use Copp in a package to get a #1 RHD, this gives them a nice upgrade for the second pair, allows them to protect Appleton and move a player that they're reportedly having trouble signing.

In the unlikely event that Seattle takes Chiarot instead of Stanley, that's still a win for the Jets.
WPG
  1. Chiarot, Ben
  2. 2021 3rd round pick (WSH)
MTL
  1. Blais, Samuel
  2. Dunn, Vince [RFA Rights]
STL
  1. Brook, Josh
  2. Lehkonen, Artturi
  3. 2021 2nd round pick (MTL)
Additional Details:
Hate to give up the only good RHD prospect in the Habs system, but St. Louis likely rejects any LD prospects and I feel like getting a PMD that can QB the PP is worth it.
MTL
    Expansion Draft
    SEA
    1. Drouin, Jonathan
    Buyouts
    • Karl Alzner: $1,958,333
    DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
    2021
    MTL
    TBL
    CHI
    MTL
    STL
    VGK
    PHI
    MTL
    MTL
    2022
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    2023
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
    22$81,500,000$77,826,370$597,561$1,475,000$3,673,630
    Left WingCenterRight Wing
    MTL
    Toffoli, Tyler
    $4,250,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 3
    MTL
    Suzuki, Nick
    $863,333
    C, RW
    RFA - 1
    MTL
    Caufield, Cole
    $880,833
    RW, C
    RFA - 2
    Copp, Andrew
    $3,500,000
    C, LW
    RFA
    MTL
    Kotkaniemi, Jesperi
    $3,000,000
    C, LW
    RFA
    MTL
    Anderson, Josh
    $5,500,000
    RW
    NTC
    UFA - 6
    MTL
    Evans, Jake
    $750,000
    C, RW
    RFA - 1
    MTL
    Danault, Phillip
    $5,000,000
    C
    UFA
    MTL
    Gallagher, Brendan
    $6,500,000
    RW
    NMC NTC
    UFA - 6
    MTL
    Byron, Paul
    $3,400,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 2
    MTL
    Poehling, Ryan
    $950,000
    C, LW
    RFA
    STL
    Blais, Samuel
    $1,500,000
    RW
    RFA - 1
    MTL
    Perry, Corey
    $1,000,000
    RW
    UFA
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    Dunn, Vince
    $3,500,000
    LD/RD
    RFA
    MTL
    Weber, Shea
    $7,857,143
    RD
    UFA - 5
    MTL
    Price, Carey
    $10,500,000
    G
    NMC
    UFA - 5
    MTL
    Edmundson, Joel
    $3,500,000
    LD
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    MTL
    Petry, Jeff
    $6,250,000
    RD
    NMC NTC
    UFA - 4
    MTL
    Allen, Jake
    $2,875,000
    G
    UFA - 2
    MTL
    Romanov, Alexander
    $894,167
    LD/RD
    RFA - 1
    MTL
    Fleury, Cale
    $950,000
    RD
    RFA
    MTL
    Kulak, Brett
    $1,850,000
    LD
    UFA - 1

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    Jun 18 at 4:31
    #1
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    Genuine question here as I’m not as familiar with the Canadiens - is Gallagher worth his contract?
    Jun 18 at 4:36
    #2
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    Quoting: vikhodush
    Genuine question here as I’m not as familiar with the Canadiens - is Gallagher worth his contract?


    Absolutely he is, since 17-18 he ranks 5th in 5 vs 5 goals, has been on pace or hit the 30 goal mark in 4 of his last 5 seasons, and is the true catalyst of the Montreal offense. He is our future captain and the heart and soul of the team.
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    Jun 18 at 4:38
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    Quoting: Campabee
    Absolutely he is, since 17-18 he ranks 5th in 5 vs 5 goals, has been on pace or hit the 30 goal mark in 4 of his last 5 seasons, and is the true catalyst of the Montreal offense. He is our future captain and the heart and soul of the team.


    Good to know. Thoughts on Weber and Petry deals?
    Jun 18 at 4:38
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    Quoting: vikhodush
    Genuine question here as I’m not as familiar with the Canadiens - is Gallagher worth his contract?


    Hell no, he’s already losing hair, is contract didn’t even started yet and I regret that signing
    Jun 18 at 4:38
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    Quoting: vikhodush
    Good to know. Thoughts on Weber and Petry deals?


    Weber will retire soon, Petry is worth every penny because he’s an excellent skater, he won’t fall of a cliff
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    Jun 18 at 4:42
    #6
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    Quoting: vikhodush
    Good to know. Thoughts on Weber and Petry deals?


    Here is the link to the signing analysis

    https://thehockeywriters.com/canadiens-gallagher-extension-good-value/

    As you will see only McDavid, Kutcherov, Matthews and Ovechkin out paced him over the 3 years prior to his signing.
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    Jun 18 at 4:44
    #7
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    No from Winnipeg. The Jets need top 4D if they move Copp.
    Jun 18 at 4:46
    #8
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    Quoting: vikhodush
    Good to know. Thoughts on Weber and Petry deals?


    Weber's deal sucks for Nashville and hurts our cap while he is active but if/when he retires it will be negligible for Montreal. Petry's deal is great value as GMs has already outlined.
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    Jun 18 at 4:56
    #9
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    Quoting: vikhodush
    Genuine question here as I’m not as familiar with the Canadiens - is Gallagher worth his contract?


    I think so. It strikes me as the perfect number for him. He really is a huge part of their team.
    Jun 18 at 5:34
    #10
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    Quoting: Windjammer
    No from Winnipeg. The Jets need top 4D if they move Copp.


    I did preface this deal by saying that it assumed they got their #1 RD another way, such as signing Dougie Hamilton. I think Chiarot as done a pretty good job in the Habs top-4 and would be a solid partner for DeMelo on the 2nd pair. The deal could probably be changed to Copp for Edmonson, without draft pick and still be fair, if term would be more appealing.
    Jun 18 at 5:53
    #11
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    Quoting: brad_habs
    I did preface this deal by saying that it assumed they got their #1 RD another way, such as signing Dougie Hamilton. I think Chiarot as done a pretty good job in the Habs top-4 and would be a solid partner for DeMelo on the 2nd pair. The deal could probably be changed to Copp for Edmonson, without draft pick and still be fair, if term would be more appealing.


    I know you prefaced that, but I would want the Jets to target a better defenseman if they move Copp. Even if they need to add.
     
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