Marner

Nah man. Just nothing justifies exchanging important playoff assets from a contending team to more expensive asset who just can't produce in the playoffs. I fathom to understand how this makes Canes a better team.

Send Marner and Liljgren to Arizona for Keller and Dvorak

Why would Carolina trade their 2C for a bad contract? You'd have to retain half to even start a conversation around Trocheck.

That's actually an interesting offer.

Would also provide as a leverage point when trying to lure Matthews to come back home when his contract with Leafs expires.

Lol

I don’t hate that one bit

He’s not signing in Arizona lmao. Players don’t just sign in their hometowns just because.

I mean Spezza and Tavares might disagree with you...

It never hurts to speculate. But it's still a leverage, should they consider making an offer. Not saying it'll happen, but it wouldn't surprise me too much.

Mariner is twice the player Trocheck is

Same thing people said about Yzerman in the late 80's and early 90's



Its not a bad contact.

Why would Carolina do this?

1. Marner is the better player by far
2. in actual salary Marner has Less than $25M owed if done after July 1st with only $750K for the 21-22 season
3. Trocheck is owed $6.25M this year
4. he is a UFA at the end of the year

The real question is why would the Leaf's do it.

At 3 times the cap hit!

No...
1) Extending Trocheck is allowed
2) The paid salary isn't an issue, Carolina are owned by a Billionaire.
3) Trocheck has 1/3rd of the cap hit of Marner
4) He was basically a point per game as a center, centers are far more important to their teams.

There's no reason for Carolina to do it. They already have a fantastic pass-first winger who doesn't shoot as much as he should

In the regular season yes. Problem is that he's too expensive and stops producing when it matters. It's not coincidental anymore, it's more of a pattern.

With all due respect to Yzerman, at least he managed to score playoff goals and win series back then.

Just because they are majority owned by a Billionaire doesn't mean anything. I am sure the 14 minority investor groups in the ownership want to save money

What does a UFA Trocheck want?

Marner who is still developing and getting better is over a point per game. Trocheck has never been a PPG player and never will be A Camry is basically a Lexus but will never be one.

He has 25 points in 32 playoff games. Yes its not the same rate as his regular season but that's not bad from a kid 19-23 years old

compare that to Trocheck 6 points in 19 games?

3 x 4.75 = 14.25

I'll have to admit most of me wanted to make this post to listen to the two extremes on different sides of the fence

Never said anything about Trocheck being more valuable. Just said that he's important playoff asset for them with reasonable cost.

Marner's 5 playoff goals in 5 years with $11M contract is just a huge red flag for me. I wouldn't bring him in to a contender, because contenders need playoff success, which is something Marner seems unable to provide. It's been well over two years since Marner actually scored during the postseason.

On here people tend to make no sense and can not backup what they say.

Marner's cap hit is slightly high but he does not have a bad contact. Every NHL GM would take him with his current contract.

The Leaf's will not split up their core. you need to learn how to win in the NHL Look at Tampa, Washington, Redwings etc very few teams win when the contending window first opens

Trocheck is a piece that can be easily replaced

IF Marner was a goal scorer I would be concerned as well. He's a playmaker so his 20 assist is just a little lower than his regular season totals and the kid just turned 24 years old.

Depends very much on how their cap situation is built. You say every GM would take it, but less than a handful could actually afford it while building a contending team. Marner as a player is definitely a boost, but that contract is a damn huge hindrance. Or why do you suggest Leafs has virtually no depth otherwise?

In playoffs rookie Marner was better than the current one. At least that one didn't disappear all the time.

There's a difference between being an actual goal scorer and scoring in one game in the latest 19 playoff games Leafs have had. Especially while earning a contract taking 1/8 of your whole cap.

Dundon is the majority owner and foots the bills, as he made public during the pandemic... he paid for everything himself and has said he'll continue to do it until the team is able to open up the arena fully and return to making a profit.

A UFA trocheck at most will want 8? That's still 2/3rd Marner's cap hit, AND he's a right shot center, being the only one on the Hurricanes roster this year.

Trocheck was basically a point per game this year dude...

Marner scores more in the regular season, sure.... Do you wanna talk about the playoffs when Marner had more puck over the glass penalties than points?