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Kaprizov

Created by: DirtyDangles
Initial Creation Date: Jun 21, 2021
Published: Jun 21 at 9:38
Team: 2021-22 Philadelphia Flyers
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Hart, Carter3$3,750,000
Bunnaman, Connor2$800,000
Twarynski, Carsen2$800,000
Sanheim, Travis5$4,250,000
Kaprizov, Kirill5$10,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Andersen, Frederik1$3,500,000
Trades
PHI
    SEA
    1. van Riemsdyk, James
    2. 2021 3rd round pick (PHI)
    PHI
    1. Kaprizov, Kirill [RFA Rights]
    MIN
    1. Konecny, Travis
    2. Brink, Bobby [Reserve List]
    3. 2022 1st round pick (PHI)
    4. 2021 2nd round pick (PHI)
    PHI
    1. Jones, Seth
    CBJ
    1. Gostisbehere, Shayne
    2. Patrick, Nolan [RFA Rights]
    3. 2021 1st round pick (PHI)
    4. 2022 3rd round pick (PHI)
    Buyouts
    • Ilya Bryzgalov: $0
    DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
    2021
    PHI
    VGK
    PHI
    PHI
    2022
    PHI
    PHI
    PHI
    PHI
    PHI
    STL
    2023
    PHI
    PHI
    PHI
    PHI
    PHI
    PHI
    PHI
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
    23$81,500,000$80,795,356$0$1,450,000$704,644
    Left WingCenterRight Wing
    PHI
    Farabee, Joel
    $925,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    PHI
    Couturier, Sean
    $4,333,333
    C
    UFA - 1
    PHI
    Voracek, Jakub
    $8,250,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 3
    PHI
    Giroux, Claude
    $8,275,000
    LW, C, RW
    NMC
    UFA - 1
    PHI
    Frost, Morgan
    $863,333
    C
    RFA - 1
    Kaprizov, Kirill
    $10,000,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 5
    PHI
    Laughton, Scott
    $3,000,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 5
    PHI
    Hayes, Kevin
    $7,142,857
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 5
    PHI
    Allison, Wade
    $925,000
    RW
    RFA - 1
    PHI
    Lindblom, Oskar
    $3,000,000
    LW
    RFA - 2
    PHI
    Laczynski, Tanner
    $925,000
    C
    RFA - 1
    PHI
    Aubé-Kubel, Nicolas
    $1,075,000
    RW
    RFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    PHI
    Provorov, Ivan
    $6,750,000
    LD
    UFA - 4
    CBJ
    Jones, Seth
    $5,400,000
    RD
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    PHI
    Hart, Carter
    $3,750,000
    G
    RFA - 3
    PHI
    Sanheim, Travis
    $4,250,000
    LD
    UFA - 2
    PHI
    Myers, Philippe
    $2,550,000
    RD
    RFA - 2
    Andersen, Frederik
    $3,500,000
    G
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    PHI
    York, Cam
    $880,833
    LD
    RFA - 2
    PHI
    Braun, Justin
    $1,800,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    PHI
    Bunnaman, Connor
    $800,000
    C
    RFA - 2
    PHI
    Twarynski, Carsen
    $800,000
    LW
    RFA - 1
    PHI
    Hägg, Robert
    $1,600,000
    LD
    UFA - 1

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    Jun 21 at 11:48
    #26
    Joined: Jun 2020
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    Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
    MIN would not be in a position of strength. While any team in the league would offer a nice return just for one year of his services, knowing they will only get him for two or three years will affect the type of return MIN gets. A king's ransom would come if they knew they'd be able to sign him to a long-term contract. Don't get me wrong, MIN would still get a nice return, but they won't get a haul knowing it's a short-term contract.


    As I already said, Kaprizov would likely get to dictate where he'd be sent. Which means he'd probably be on a contending team or very close to it. He'd be far more likely to be willing to sign long-term there than here. The two reasons why he wants to go short-term are because he wants to cash in on a 2nd payday contract around Panarin level of money and because he doesn't want to be tied down with us if things go south.

    More than anything, he wants to win. He wants to compete for a Stanley Cup. He doesn't want to play long-term for a team where his center is Victor f*cking Rask. If he goes to a team that can compete and contend for the cup, and he gets to play with an actual top-six caliber center. Chances are pretty good he'd be willing to sign long-term.
    Jun 21 at 11:50
    #27
    Joined: Jul 2018
    Posts: 2,506
    Likes: 912
    Quoting: RazWild
    As I already said, Kaprizov would likely get to dictate where he'd be sent. Which means he'd probably be on a contending team or very close to it. He'd be far more likely to be willing to sign long-term there than here. The two reasons why he wants to go short-term are because he wants to cash in on a 2nd payday contract around Panarin level of money and because he doesn't want to be tied down with us if things go south.

    More than anything, he wants to win. He wants to compete for a Stanley Cup. He doesn't want to play long-term for a team where his center is Victor f*cking Rask. If he goes to a team that can compete and contend for the cup, and he gets to play with an actual top-six caliber center. Chances are pretty good he'd be willing to sign long-term.


    Again, I think these are a lot of assumptions on what's going on in a player's mind. You, me, nor anyone knows what he'd actually do if given the chance. He may only want a bridge deal to hold him over until he's 27 so he can be a UFA and get a bigger pay day. As of right now, all we know for sure is that he wants a shorter deal or he bolts to Russia. To assume anything else is just unwise.
    Jun 21 at 12:02
    #28
    Joined: Jun 2020
    Posts: 1,742
    Likes: 1,427
    Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
    Again, I think these are a lot of assumptions on what's going on in a player's mind. You, me, nor anyone knows what he'd actually do if given the chance. He may only want a bridge deal to hold him over until he's 27 so he can be a UFA and get a bigger pay day. As of right now, all we know for sure is that he wants a shorter deal or he bolts to Russia. To assume anything else is just unwise.


    Maybe...

    But the comments about him wanting to win and that he wants to compete for the cup and that he wants to be on a competitive team, with a proper center on his line, we're all originally made by Michael Russo. Not me. He's more plugged into what's going on then either of us.

    You can call it assumptions if you want. You're probably correct in that. But reading between the lines and inferring what he would do, given the information we have at hand, isn't a stretch. But logical reasoning.
    Jun 21 at 12:05
    #29
    Joined: Jul 2018
    Posts: 2,506
    Likes: 912
    Quoting: RazWild
    Maybe...

    But the comments about him wanting to win and that he wants to compete for the cup and that he wants to be on a competitive team, with a proper center on his line, we're all originally made by Michael Russo. Not me. He's more plugged into what's going on then either of us.

    You can call it assumptions if you want. You're probably correct in that. But reading between the lines and inferring what he would do, given the information we have at hand, isn't a stretch. But logical reasoning.


    Obviously you could be right at the end of the day and your reasoning isn't flawed, but I just find that we as fans sometimes like to think we know what a player wants, and again, you may ultimately be right. I do think however at this point that Guerin would probably make a hard play to upgrade the team to keep him than move him and take a setback. What MIN did this year was impressive until the end and I don't think anyone including Wild fans expected them to even sniff the playoffs.

    We'll see though. We never really know how these things play out until they do. I do know coming from an interview with Foligno that Kiprizov definitely has a bit of an attitude and doesn't think too highly of all his teammates lol
    Jun 21 at 6:47
    #30
    Purlas
    Joined: May 2021
    Posts: 151
    Likes: 16
    Quoting: DirtyDangles
    If MIN isn't willing to pay him, then I think he bolts. So if Guerin knows he won't pay him then trade him to a team that will instead of losing him for nothing to the KHL.


    guerin knows what hes doing not trading to philly this team still sucks anderson sucks and the d is not leaps and bounds better no chance kaprisov leaves trust me i know
     
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