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Jones Reinhart Tarasenko Killorn

Created by: Racki
Initial Creation Date: Jun 22, 2021
Published: Jun 22 at 1:30
Team: 2021-22 Los Angeles Kings
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Andersson, Lias2$800,000
Lizotte, Blake3$1,200,000
Moore, Trevor3$1,200,000
Reinhart, Sam6$6,500,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Edler, Alexander1$4,000,000
Offer Sheets
Offer sheet annual average (AAV) is calculated by dividing the contract value by the lower of: 1. The contract length, or 2. Five years
PLAYERAAVCOMPENSATION
Reinhart, Sam$7,800,000
2022 1st round pick
2022 2nd round pick
2022 3rd round pick
Trades
LAK
    SEA
    1. Athanasiou, Andreas [RFA Rights]
    LAK
    1. Jones, Seth ($2,400,000 retained)
    Additional Details:
    Extended 7x7
    CBJ
    1. Walker, Sean
    2. Kupari, Rasmus
    3. Madden, Tyler
    4. 2021 1st round pick (LAK)
    LAK
    1. Killorn, Alex
    TBL
    1. Grundström, Carl
    2. 2021 2nd round pick (STL)
    LAK
    1. Tarasenko, Vladimir ($1,500,000 retained)
    STL
    1. Iafallo, Alex
    2. Clague, Kale [RFA Rights]
    3. 2021 2nd round pick (LAK)
    Buyouts
    • Dion Phaneuf: $1,062,500
    • Olli Määttä: $1,110,984
    Retained Salary Transactions
    • Jeff Carter: $2,636,363 (50%)
    Termination Fees
    • Mike Richards: $900,000
    DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
    2021
    LAK
    TOR
    CGY
    LAK
    LAK
    2022
    PIT
    LAK
    LAK
    LAK
    LAK
    2023
    LAK
    LAK
    LAK
    LAK
    PIT
    LAK
    LAK
    LAK
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
    24$81,500,000$80,381,514$0$5,545,000$1,118,486

    Roster

    Left WingCenterRight Wing
    STL
    Tarasenko, Vladimir
    $6,000,000
    RW
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    LAK
    Kopitar, Anze
    $10,000,000
    C
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    LAK
    Brown, Dustin
    $5,875,000
    RW, LW
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    TBL
    Killorn, Alex
    $4,450,000
    LW
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    LAK
    Vilardi, Gabriel
    $894,167
    C
    RFA - 1
    Reinhart, Sam
    $6,500,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 3
    LAK
    Kempe, Adrian
    $2,000,000
    LW, RW
    RFA - 1
    LAK
    Byfield, Quinton
    $894,167
    C
    RFA - 3
    LAK
    Tkachev, Vladimir
    $925,000
    LW, RW
    RFA - 1
    LAK
    Lizotte, Blake
    $1,200,000
    C
    RFA - 1
    LAK
    Anderson-Dolan, Jaret
    $747,500
    C
    RFA - 1
    LAK
    Moore, Trevor
    $1,200,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 2
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    Edler, Alexander
    $4,000,000
    LD
    NMC
    UFA - 1
    LAK
    Doughty, Drew
    $11,000,000
    RD
    NMC
    UFA - 6
    LAK
    Petersen, Cal
    $858,333
    G
    UFA - 1
    LAK
    Anderson, Michael
    $925,000
    LD
    RFA - 1
    CBJ
    Jones, Seth
    $3,000,000
    RD
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    LAK
    Quick, Jonathan
    $5,800,000
    G
    UFA - 2
    LAK
    Björnfot, Tobias
    $894,167
    LD
    RFA - 2
    LAK
    Roy, Matt
    $3,150,000
    RD
    UFA - 3
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    LAK
    Andersson, Lias
    $800,000
    C, LW
    RFA - 1
    LAK
    Lemieux, Brendan
    $1,550,000
    LW, RW
    RFA - 1
    LAK
    Wagner, Austin
    $1,133,333
    RW, LW
    RFA - 2
    LAK
    MacDermid, Kurtis
    $875,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 1

    Special Teams

    Power Play 1
    Tarasenko, V.
    Kopitar, A.
    Brown, D.
    Kempe, A.
    Doughty, D.
    Power Play 2
    Byfield, Q.
    Vilardi, G.
    Reinhart, S.
    Tkachev, V.
    Jones, S.
    Penalty Kill 1
    Kopitar, A.
    Killorn, A.
    Edler, A.
    Doughty, D.
    Penalty Kill 2
    Lizotte, B.
    Moore, T.
    Anderson, M.
    Roy, M.

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    Jun 22 at 1:33
    #1
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    BUF matches. Rest is ok, although I think re-signing Jones will cost you more than this.
    Jun 22 at 1:43
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    Jones said he wouldn't do a sign and trade. If that's the case, this is too much for a rental.

    Tampa won't get much value from the Kings for Killorn especially with them against the cap.

    A Tarasenko rental isn't worth giving up Iafallo, especially when the Kings don't even know if he's healthy enough to play.
    Jun 22 at 1:43
    #3
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    I'm not saying the Blues accept, but this makes them think about it.
    Jun 22 at 1:44
    #4
    mokumboi
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    Quoting: tryger

    A Tarasenko rental isn't worth giving up Iafallo, especially when the Kings don't even know if he's healthy enough to play.



    Tarasenko has two years left. And he was plenty healthy when the season ended.
    Jun 22 at 1:44
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    Quoting: tryger
    Jones said he wouldn't do a sign and trade. If that's the case, this is too much for a rental.

    Tampa won't get much value from the Kings for Killorn especially with them against the cap.

    A Tarasenko rental isn't worth giving up Iafallo, especially when the Kings don't even know if he's healthy enough to play.


    Tarasenko isn't a rental as he has two years left.
    Jun 22 at 1:46
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    Quoting: mokumboi
    Tarasenko has two years left. And he was plenty healthy when the season ended.


    34 games in two seasons (albiet shortened), just wondering if free agency might be a safer bet.
    Jun 22 at 1:47
    #7
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    Quoting: justaBoss
    BUF matches. Rest is ok, although I think re-signing Jones will cost you more than this.


    Why would Buffalo want to resign a guy that doesn't want to play for them anymore?
    Jun 22 at 1:47
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    TB says deal
    Jun 22 at 1:47
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    Quoting: Chopper02
    Tarasenko isn't a rental as he has two years left.


    I'd love to get him, but not for Iafallo, especially if his injury concerns might shut his career down early.
    Jun 22 at 1:49
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    Quoting: tryger
    Jones said he wouldn't do a sign and trade. If that's the case, this is too much for a rental.

    Tampa won't get much value from the Kings for Killorn especially with them against the cap.

    A Tarasenko rental isn't worth giving up Iafallo, especially when the Kings don't even know if he's healthy enough to play.


    6-7 teams are interested in Killorn so a lot of the 'cap issues" are negated by bidding wa. Take Grundström out put in a 7
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    Jun 22 at 1:51
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    Quoting: TheThunder
    6-7 teams are interested in Killorn so a lot of the 'cap issues" are negated by bidding wa. Take Grundström out put in a 7
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    I think if he's going to be exposed by Tampa he won't be worth a 2nd IMO.
    Jun 22 at 1:52
    #12
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    Quoting: tryger
    34 games in two seasons (albiet shortened), just wondering if free agency might be a safer bet.


    If he's playing with Kopitar and Brown, it can't get any safer. This team is a legit contender without having to destroy the future. Kings get a young long term RW in Reinhart, a RD with 4-5+ prime years left to fill the hole Voynov left. I don't think that's a bad price to pay for Killorn, but if it costs less then great. If Kings can't get an extension with Jones at the time of the trade then the price could be just Walker, Kupari, and a 2nd.
    Jun 22 at 1:57
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    Quoting: Racki
    If he's playing with Kopitar and Brown, it can't get any safer. This team is a legit contender without having to destroy the future. Kings get a young long term RW in Reinhart, a RD with 4-5+ prime years left to fill the hole Voynov left. I don't think that's a bad price to pay for Killorn, but if it costs less then great. If Kings can't get an extension with Jones at the time of the trade then the price could be just Walker, Kupari, and a 2nd.


    You've made the team good for one year. But the long-term cost impacts are brutal, how do you pay Seth Jones, Kempe, Vilardi, Peterson? And after that how do you pay Bjornfot, Byfield, Turcotte and the rest.. You've taken on too much, the team really needs to overpay 2-3 year UFAs to fill the gaps in the meantime.
    Jun 22 at 1:59
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    Quoting: Racki
    If he's playing with Kopitar and Brown, it can't get any safer. This team is a legit contender without having to destroy the future. Kings get a young long term RW in Reinhart, a RD with 4-5+ prime years left to fill the hole Voynov left. I don't think that's a bad price to pay for Killorn, but if it costs less then great. If Kings can't get an extension with Jones at the time of the trade then the price could be just Walker, Kupari, and a 2nd.


    Taransenko will be eating 20+ minutes a night on the top line and all situations, I think he needs to be put on a team where he can play 18min a night and gradually move up. Getting him would be like Williams 2.0 , I get the move but not for Iafallo, he's too defensively sound to lose with a team this young.
    Jun 22 at 2:08
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    Quoting: tryger
    Taransenko will be eating 20+ minutes a night on the top line and all situations, I think he needs to be put on a team where he can play 18min a night and gradually move up. Getting him would be like Williams 2.0 , I get the move but not for Iafallo, he's too defensively sound to lose with a team this young.


    Kings fans overrate Iafallo so much lol. With Kings getting 1.75M retention on Tarasenko, they will be fine cap wise next year and the year after, I already did the math hence the retention...
    Jun 22 at 2:16
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    Quoting: Racki
    Why would Buffalo want to resign a guy that doesn't want to play for them anymore?


    BUF want to sell him for a replacement guy, not for question mark picks.
    Jun 22 at 2:28
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    Quoting: Racki
    Kings fans overrate Iafallo so much lol. With Kings getting 1.75M retention on Tarasenko, they will be fine cap wise next year and the year after, I already did the math hence the retention...


    It's not overrating his offensive value, its how well he shuts down high level players which makes him a lock for the PK, which fewer and fewer players can do with Carter gone and Brown ready to leave.

    And how much are you paying Seth Jones, Gabe Vilardi, Cal Peterson and Anderson that made the math work for next season?
     
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