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Trades with Cal Dal Vegas

Created by: xxToothxx
Initial Creation Date: Jun 23, 2021
Published: Jun 23 at 2:49
Team: 2021-22 New York Rangers
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Gauthier, Julien2$975,000
Shesterkin, Igor4$4,500,000
Howden, Brett2$1,200,000
Heiskanen, Miro8$8,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Getzlaf, Ryan1$1,000,000
Trades
NYR
  1. Tkachuk, Matthew
CGY
  1. Buchnevich, Pavel [RFA Rights]
  2. Chytil, Filip [RFA Rights]
  3. Hájek, Libor [RFA Rights]
  4. Jones, Zachary
NYR
    SEA
    1. Howden, Brett
    NYR
    1. Carrier, William
    2. Reaves, Ryan
    VGK
    1. Georgiev, Alexandar
    NYR
    1. Heiskanen, Miro [RFA Rights]
    DAL
    1. Kakko, Kaapo
    2. Schneider, Braden
    3. 2021 1st round pick (NYR)
    Buyouts
    • Henrik Lundqvist: $1,500,000
    • Kevin Shattenkirk: $1,433,333
    • Dan Girardi: $1,111,111
    • Brad Richards: $0
    • Anthony Deangelo: $383,334
    DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
    2021
    NYR
    BUF
    NYR
    LAK
    OTT
    NYR
    NYR
    NYR
    2022
    NYR
    NYR
    NYR
    NYR
    NYR
    NYR
    NYR
    2023
    NYR
    NYR
    NYR
    NYR
    NYR
    NYR
    NYR
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
    22$81,500,000$75,708,135$0$7,250,000$5,791,865
    Left WingCenterRight Wing
    NYR
    Lafrenière, Alexis
    $925,000
    LW
    RFA - 2
    NYR
    Zibanejad, Mika
    $5,350,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 1
    CGY
    Tkachuk, Matthew
    $7,000,000
    LW, RW
    RFA - 1
    NYR
    Panarin, Artemi
    $11,642,857
    LW
    NMC
    UFA - 5
    NYR
    Strome, Ryan
    $4,500,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 1
    NYR
    Kravtsov, Vitali
    $925,000
    RW
    RFA - 1
    NYR
    Kreider, Chris
    $6,500,000
    LW
    NMC
    UFA - 6
    Getzlaf, Ryan
    $1,000,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 1
    NYR
    Gauthier, Julien
    $975,000
    RW
    RFA - 1
    VGK
    Carrier, William
    $1,400,000
    LW
    UFA - 3
    NYR
    Blackwell, Colin
    $725,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 1
    VGK
    Reaves, Ryan
    $1,750,000
    RW
    UFA - 1
    NYR
    Rooney, Kevin
    $750,000
    RW, C
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    Heiskanen, Miro
    $8,000,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 8
    NYR
    Fox, Adam
    $925,000
    RD
    RFA - 1
    NYR
    Shesterkin, Igor
    $4,500,000
    G
    UFA - 4
    NYR
    Miller, K'Andre
    $925,000
    LD
    RFA - 2
    NYR
    Trouba, Jacob
    $8,000,000
    RD
    NMC
    UFA - 5
    NYR
    Kinkaid, Keith
    $825,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    NYR
    Lindgren, Ryan
    $3,000,000
    LD
    RFA - 3
    NYR
    Lundkvist, Nils
    $925,000
    RD
    RFA - 3
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    NYR
    Bitetto, Anthony
    $737,500
    LD
    UFA - 1

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    Jun 23 at 2:51
    #1
    Joined: Sep 2020
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    Incoming angry Stars fans
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    Jun 23 at 2:57
    #2
    Joined: May 2019
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    Quoting: Gmonwy
    Incoming angry Stars fans


    No not angry. We just generally, know our players better than fans from other teams. The same goes when we try to trade Blake Comeau for Jack Eichel.

    IMO, Nill & Co will build the next Stars' decade around Heiskanen, Harley, Klingberg (if they sign him), Hintz, Robertson, Oettinger and maybe Gurianov. This makes it nearly impossible to imagine a trade with these core players involved.

    Of course, they could be traded (see Gretzky), but only in a one on one hockey trade, or if one of these guys really wants out of Dallas.
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    Jun 23 at 3:06
    #3
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    Quoting: Phleb2
    No not angry. We just generally, know our players better than fans from other teams. The same goes when we try to trade Blake Comeau for Jack Eichel.

    IMO, Nill & Co will build the next Stars' decade around Heiskanen, Harley, Klingberg (if they sign him), Hintz, Robertson, Oettinger and maybe Gurianov. This makes it nearly impossible to imagine a trade with these core players involved.

    Of course, they could be traded (see Gretzky), but only in a one on one hockey trade, or if one of these guys really wants out of Dallas.


    Agreed, Miro definitely worth building around.
    But maybe they dont wish to dish out that kind of cash... probably only way hed get moved.
    The 8 per is probably light too.
    Jun 23 at 3:22
    #4
    aecliptic
    Joined: Jun 2019
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    What Im most amazed by is we trade Kakko, Schneider and a 1st for Miro, however we give up spokes on a wheel for Thachuk. Lol.
    Jun 23 at 3:49
    #5
    Beanmachine
    Joined: May 2018
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    Quoting: aecliptic
    What Im most amazed by is we trade Kakko, Schneider and a 1st for Miro, however we give up spokes on a wheel for Thachuk. Lol.


    That was my thought as well!
    Jun 23 at 3:54
    #6
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    Quoting: xxToothxx
    Agreed, Miro definitely worth building around.
    But maybe they dont wish to dish out that kind of cash... probably only way hed get moved.
    The 8 per is probably light too.


    I think Miro will sign a bridge deal around the 6M$ mark for 2 to 3 years. I really do not see him signing a long term deal right now in a flat Cap situation.

    But Miro and Fox would be so awsome to watch. I could switch team just for that smile
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    Jun 23 at 6:52
    #7
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    Quoting: InTreWeTrust
    That was my thought as well!


    Not really hard to figure...
    Miro>Matty
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    Jun 23 at 7:01
    #8
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    Quoting: aecliptic
    What Im most amazed by is we trade Kakko, Schneider and a 1st for Miro, however we give up spokes on a wheel for Thachuk. Lol.


    Spokes on a wheel??
    Buch offers top line RW
    Chytil 21 yr old C, with 2 yrs in league
    2 young Dmen
    Probably a spot for all four on the current Flames roster.
    Let's be real, as currently constructed Calgary would be bubble playoff team at best next season.
    Which is why they are looking at a rebuild/retool.

    Tkachuk probably does not have the offensive ceiling Buch or Chytil have. Reports have Calgary tired of his antics, Buch will sign similiar deal, but cheaper and put up similar points.
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    Jun 23 at 7:15
    #9
    aecliptic
    Joined: Jun 2019
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    Quoting: xxToothxx
    Spokes on a wheel??
    Buch offers top line RW
    Chytil 21 yr old C, with 2 yrs in league
    2 young Dmen
    Probably a spot for all four on the current Flames roster.
    Let's be real, as currently constructed Calgary would be bubble playoff team at best next season.
    Which is why they are looking at a rebuild/retool.

    Tkachuk probably does not have the offensive ceiling Buch or Chytil have. Reports have Calgary tired of his antics, Buch will sign similiar deal, but cheaper and put up similar points.


    Yes, spokes on a wheel.

    Chytil is barely a center, hes one of the worst faceoff guys in the league. Hes not physical, and borderline defensively.
    How will Buch do on a team thats been stripped of its 2 best players? He wont have Zib or Panarin to rely on there.
    Libor Hajek has been tossed around endlessly as the guy who is left unprotected, thats all you need to know about him.
    Jones has all the hype, but a defensemens growth is anything but linear and predictable. Potential, hype, sure.

    Thats what youre giving up for someone who is essentially a star in this league. So, again, yes, spokes on a wheel.
    Jun 23 at 8:04
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    Tkachuk has 9 PP points over last 2 YEARS !!??
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    Jun 29 at 1:36
    #11
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    Quoting: aecliptic
    Yes, spokes on a wheel.

    Chytil is barely a center, hes one of the worst faceoff guys in the league. Hes not physical, and borderline defensively.
    How will Buch do on a team thats been stripped of its 2 best players? He wont have Zib or Panarin to rely on there.
    Libor Hajek has been tossed around endlessly as the guy who is left unprotected, thats all you need to know about him.
    Jones has all the hype, but a defensemens growth is anything but linear and predictable. Potential, hype, sure.

    Thats what youre giving up for someone who is essentially a star in this league. So, again, yes, spokes on a wheel.


    A star yes.... but there are many, many stars across the league. If you meant, I would have to disagree, Superstar then you have a point. But I don't see Tkachuk as a Superstar.
    Potentially yes. I have to admit.
    But to consider future cap... hes 24 and makes 7 mil per now, with contract up in 2... that is a very expensive PEST in his late 20s and 30s
    Jun 29 at 5:54
    #12
    aecliptic
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    Quoting: Dontwhine2me
    A star yes.... but there are many, many stars across the league. If you meant, I would have to disagree, Superstar then you have a point. But I don't see Tkachuk as a Superstar.
    Potentially yes. I have to admit.
    But to consider future cap... hes 24 and makes 7 mil per now, with contract up in 2... that is a very expensive PEST in his late 20s and 30s


    He has to be qualified at 9m next year. Its a sum of money the Rangers cant afford to commit to even if there was a shot to get Tkachuk.
     
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