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That's not appealing for Fiala. Legitimate top 6 center or nothing. We have no problem giving him that contract ourselves.

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Jun. 24, 2021 at 6:33 p.m.

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I don't know if we'd move him unless it's for Necas, which the Canes likely say no to. There's just no point in moving Fiala unless we get a similarly aged, similarly talented center coming back.

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Jun. 24, 2021 at 6:33 p.m.

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Quoting: TanSor

I don't know if we'd move him unless it's for Necas, which the Canes likely say no to. There's just no point in moving Fiala unless we get a similarly aged, similarly talented center coming back.

Necas isn't a center in any capacity at this point. This would be a lateral move for us.

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Jun. 24, 2021 at 6:38 p.m.

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Necas isn't a center in any capacity at this point. This would be a lateral move for us.

He has played 125 NHL games, I think it's way too early to write him as a pure winger especially when he played center up until he was drafted.

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Quoting: TanSor

I don't know if we'd move him unless it's for Necas, which the Canes likely say no to. There's just no point in moving Fiala unless we get a similarly aged, similarly talented center coming back.

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Necas isn't a center in any capacity at this point. This would be a lateral move for us.

Necas or Jarvis at bare minimum...

Even if it was Mercer, a 1st, and something else I'm not certain we'd do it.

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Quoting: TanSor

He has played 125 NHL games, I think it's way too early to write him as a pure winger especially when he played center up until he was drafted.

He's not viewed as a center by either the Canes or its fans. They both view him as a winger.

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Jun. 24, 2021 at 6:42 p.m.

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Necas or Jarvis at bare minimum...

Even if it was Mercer, a 1st, and something else I'm not certain we'd do it.

Mercer is a Devils pick, but yeah, it would have to be for Necas or Jarvis at least. And Necas is a pretty lateral move like I said, so I'm not sure why either side does it. And Jarvis would still require an additional 1st on top at least.

There's really not a lot out there that makes sense to move Fiala for, so I don't see him getting moved. I think that was Russo just trying to come up with stuff to speculate on while things are quiet right now.

Jun. 24, 2021 at 6:50 p.m.

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Necas or Jarvis at bare minimum...

Even if it was Mercer, a 1st, and something else I'm not certain we'd do it.

I was hoping to avoid having to add Jarvis, but if that's what it takes I understand. I do think Foegele is being undersold a bit here though.

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I was hoping to avoid having to add Jarvis, but if that's what it takes I understand. I do think Foegele is being undersold a bit here though.

I think it's pretty ambitious to think a 25 year old with 200 career games and a career high of 30 points is even remotely acceptable as a center piece for a player like Fiala, personally. He also didn't even play center for you guys from what I can tell, he played wing, so the fact that you're trying to sell him as a guy who could take a step to being any kind of 2nd line center is pretty bold.

Jun. 24, 2021 at 6:56 p.m.

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Yeah if that was just Russo speculation and there's no real motivation for Minnesota moving Fiala then there probably isn't a fit to be had here.

Jun. 24, 2021 at 6:59 p.m.

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I'm struggling to see him as the center piece in a deal that also includes a 1st and a prospect like Jarvis/Suzuki. But he's not just a plug and there are some analytics guys who are high on him in a larger role.

Jun. 24, 2021 at 7:07 p.m.

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Foegle's a decent player, don't get us wrong. We just don't think he's what we'd be looking for if Fiala was moved is all.

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Jun. 24, 2021 at 7:14 p.m.

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Foegle's a decent player, don't get us wrong. We just don't think he's what we'd be looking for if Fiala was moved is all.

That's fair for sure. I was operating under the idea that Minnesota had some motivation to move Fiala, but if that's not the case then Foegele isn't the type of guy that would be appealing enough to force them to something. Does swapping Suzuki with Jarvis swing things at all?

Jun. 24, 2021 at 7:16 p.m.

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This would be my ideal offseason, minus bringing back Martinook. I'd love Tatar and Fiala as Canes

As Wild fans have said, I don't think this is what the wild is looking for in return for Fiala. They need a guaranteed top 6 center.

I'm also afraid that might not be enough for asking Seattle to take Gardiner.

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Jun. 24, 2021 at 7:36 p.m.

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Yeah - obviously I'm biased, but I really like the way this works out and how the team looks. Though I can see why Minnesota doesn't want to move Fiala. In that case I'd be curious about Reinhart from Buffalo, if they're imploding again maybe he'd be available for a package deal. Doens't fit as well with handedness but that's not the end of the world.

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Jun. 24, 2021 at 7:45 p.m.

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It definitely helps make it more appealing to where we would consider it.

But take it with the caveat that it depends on how our off-season progresses. All things considered, we want to keep him if we can. It's understandable he's looking to get paid, but what Russo has been saying is that if he's asking too much or if a move that brings in significant cap, (Eichel), then we might not be to keep him.

But at this point it's way too early to say he'd even be available.

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Jun. 24, 2021 at 9:11 p.m.

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He's not viewed as a center by either the Canes or its fans. They both view him as a winger.

I disagree with that. They’re using a similar approach to Aho early on. Started him as a bottom 6 winger, moved to a top 6 winger and then moved him to a center. It worked out perfectly. Necas is able to continue playing wing bc canes center depth is much better now than it was when Aho was coming up. I don’t think the canes have given up on him being their 2C as RBA has been working with him sporadically at center. This offseason would be a good opportunity for him to continue working on the center skill set in case they end up moving on from Troch the following year.

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Jun. 24, 2021 at 9:20 p.m.

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