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Rangers will be top of division 2022

Created by: SheldonQueef07
Initial Creation Date: Jun 25, 2021
Published: Jun 25 at 3:03
Team: 2021-22 New York Rangers
Team Explanation
I chose Eichel but they could also go for Kuznetsov if they want to take a gamble on him. Would be a lot cheaper too
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Shesterkin, Igor8$6,500,000
Chytil, Filip2$2,000,000
Buchnevich, Pavel5$5,500,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Rinne, Pekka1$3,000,000
Hamonic, Travis1$2,000,000
Trades
NYR
  1. Eichel, Jack
BUF
  1. Strome, Ryan
  2. Lundkvist, Nils
  3. Georgiev, Alexandar
  4. 2021 1st round pick (NYR)
  5. 2022 1st round pick (NYR)
Buyouts
  • Henrik Lundqvist: $1,500,000
  • Kevin Shattenkirk: $1,433,333
  • Dan Girardi: $1,111,111
  • Brad Richards: $0
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2021
NYR
BUF
NYR
LAK
OTT
NYR
NYR
NYR
2022
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
2023
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
20$81,500,000$75,487,301$0$8,400,000$6,012,699
Left WingCenterRight Wing
NYR
Panarin, Artemi
$11,642,857
LW
NMC
UFA - 5
BUF
Eichel, Jack
$10,000,000
C
UFA - 5
NYR
Kakko, Kaapo
$925,000
RW
RFA - 1
NYR
Lafrenière, Alexis
$925,000
LW
RFA - 2
NYR
Zibanejad, Mika
$5,350,000
C
NMC
UFA - 1
NYR
Buchnevich, Pavel
$5,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
NYR
Kreider, Chris
$6,500,000
LW
NMC
UFA - 6
NYR
Chytil, Filip
$2,000,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
NYR
Kravtsov, Vitali
$925,000
RW
RFA - 1
NYR
Rooney, Kevin
$750,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
NYR
Barron, Morgan
$925,000
C
RFA - 2
NYR
Blackwell, Colin
$725,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
NYR
Lindgren, Ryan
$3,000,000
LD
RFA - 3
NYR
Fox, Adam
$925,000
RD
RFA - 1
NYR
Shesterkin, Igor
$6,500,000
G
UFA - 4
NYR
Miller, K'Andre
$925,000
LD
RFA - 2
NYR
Trouba, Jacob
$8,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 5
Rinne, Pekka
$3,000,000
G
UFA
NYR
Jones, Zachary
$925,000
LD
RFA - 2
Hamonic, Travis
$2,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 2

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Jun 25 at 3:07
#1
Joined: Jun 2018
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Lundkvist isn't getting traded.
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Jun 25 at 3:09
#2
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Or we trade/ sign for a great defensive 3C and 4C and keep all our other assets. So our 3C and 4C plays defense leaving Mika and Strome to just score.
Jun 25 at 3:10
#3
Michael
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while we are in fantasy land why not throw in McDavid as well
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Jun 25 at 3:12
#4
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Supposedly NYR is out on Eichel. I hope so, considering what the final 4 looked like this year.
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Jun 25 at 3:13
#5
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Plus we’re not getting into the top 4 next year with the Isles, Canes, Caps, Pens in front of us.
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Jun 25 at 3:16
#6
Jack Hughes is Elite
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They aren't finishing ahead of the Canes or Islanders

And possibly the Penguins and Capitals
Jun 25 at 3:17
#7
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Quoting: HOCKEYBOY448
Plus we’re not getting into the top 4 next year with the Isles, Canes, Caps, Pens in front of us.


Yeah, depth, defensive responsibility and goaltending seem much more important than top 6 potency.
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Jun 25 at 3:18
#8
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Quoting: saysthemachine
Yeah, depth, defensive responsibility and goaltending seem much more important than top 6 potency.


We’ve seen that’s how it’s done year in and year out in the playoffs. We aren’t ready to contend yet.
Jun 25 at 3:27
#9
Joined: Jun 2019
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Quoting: saysthemachine
Supposedly NYR is out on Eichel. I hope so, considering what the final 4 looked like this year.


Vegas would've won if they had Eichel
Jun 25 at 3:28
#10
Joined: Jun 2019
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Quoting: saysthemachine
Yeah, depth, defensive responsibility and goaltending seem much more important than top 6 potency.


You don't make the playoffs without top 6 potency. You need depth to make it deep in the playoffs.
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Jun 25 at 3:29
#11
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Quoting: HOCKEYBOY448
Plus we’re not getting into the top 4 next year with the Isles, Canes, Caps, Pens in front of us.


The 2nd wild card spot could definitely be available. NYR should definitely push for a WC spot, that should be the goal heading into year 4 of rebuild (or 5 whatever)
Jun 25 at 3:30
#12
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Quoting: HOCKEYBOY448
Plus we’re not getting into the top 4 next year with the Isles, Canes, Caps, Pens in front of us.


Next year goes back to the previous playoff format. Top 3 in each division then next 2 best records so we would only need to be top 5 LOL.
Jun 25 at 3:32
#13
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Quoting: HOCKEYBOY448
Plus we’re not getting into the top 4 next year with the Isles, Canes, Caps, Pens in front of us.


Lol..... CAPS and PENS....
Not a goalie on either team... and other than 2 or 3 dmen.
They both are fall back teams, getting older without much if any help on the way.
Give edge to Pens over Caps, but both can easily miss next year's playoffs.
Jun 25 at 3:34
#14
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Quoting: hero9154
Next year goes back to the previous playoff format. Top 3 in each division then next 2 best records so we would only need to be top 5 LOL.


Quoting: bhavikp27
The 2nd wild card spot could definitely be available. NYR should definitely push for a WC spot, that should be the goal heading into year 4 of rebuild (or 5 whatever)


Atlantic has also improved, I don’t see them ahead of any of the following teams: Tampa, Boston, Montreal, Florida, Toronto, Isles, Canes, Caps or Pens. One of the teams I just listed isn’t making it next year, I see us as the 10th best in the conference next year unless someone falls apart I don’t see the playoffs as likely.
Jun 25 at 3:35
#15
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Quoting: xxToothxx
Lol..... CAPS and PENS....
Not a goalie on either team... and other than 2 or 3 dmen.
They both are fall back teams, getting older without much if any help on the way.
Give edge to Pens over Caps, but both can easily miss next year's playoffs.


People say that every year, yet they keep making it.
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Jun 25 at 3:40
#16
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Quoting: DongLord23
Vegas would've won if they had Eichel


Maybe. But they have all the rest so it doesn't really counter my point.
Jun 25 at 3:41
#17
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Quoting: HOCKEYBOY448
Atlantic has also improved, I don’t see them ahead of any of the following teams: Tampa, Boston, Montreal, Florida, Toronto, Isles, Canes, Caps or Pens. One of the teams I just listed isn’t making it next year, I see us as the 10th best in the conference next year unless someone falls apart I don’t see the playoffs as likely.


I'm am not saying we are definitely going to make the playoffs next year but there are going to be a lot of changes this offseason around the league. Will Boston bring back Hall, Krejci, Rask/Halak, will Toronto blow it up, will the Caps trade Kuznetsov, Isles will have cap issues, will Hextall and Burke blow things up in Pittsburgh, will Florida sign or trade Barkov, will the Rangers be able to sign or trade for a center, what will Philly do, etc. A lot is going to change between now and next season.
Jun 25 at 3:42
#18
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Quoting: saysthemachine
Supposedly NYR is out on Eichel. I hope so, considering what the final 4 looked like this year.


On any other year the Final 4 looks completely different
Jun 25 at 3:47
#19
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Quoting: DongLord23
You don't make the playoffs without top 6 potency. You need depth to make it deep in the playoffs.


We had 3 20 goal scorers and Artemi Panarin in our Top 6. Tampa had 1, I think. We would have made the playoffs in standard format.
Jun 25 at 3:52
#20
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Quoting: ggha777
On any other year the Final 4 looks completely different


The Habs are the only new team in this year's top 4. I get what you're saying though. I doubt next year's will look all that different. Maybe no Habs.
Jun 25 at 3:54
#21
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Quoting: saysthemachine
Maybe. But they have all the rest so it doesn't really counter my point.


You're only looking at one year though. Teams like Tampa & the Islanders are constantly contending and have that top center. Just because Montreal makes a miracle run, doesn't mean they're a team you should model after.
Jun 25 at 4:04
#22
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Quoting: DongLord23
You're only looking at one year though. Teams like Tampa & the Islanders are constantly contending and have that top center. Just because Montreal makes a miracle run, doesn't mean they're a team you should model after.


Only 1 season in the last 3 has Point outplayed Zibanejad. Not this season, and Zibanejad was asleep the first half! It's insane how little respect he gets. He had 76 points in 57 games last season and hardly played with Panarin. Tampa has all this talent everywhere you look and Point still can't constantly produce the numbers Zibanejad does. Barzal is not even in the conversation.

The Rangers suffer from terrible coaching and an outdated system. We're not saying model the system after their run, but to learn from it.
Jun 25 at 4:19
#23
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Quoting: saysthemachine
Only 1 season in the last 3 has Point outplayed Zibanejad. Not this season, and Zibanejad was asleep the first half! It's insane how little respect he gets. He had 76 points in 57 games last season and hardly played with Panarin. Tampa has all this talent everywhere you look and Point still can't constantly produce the numbers Zibanejad does. Barzal is not even in the conversation.

The Rangers suffer from terrible coaching and an outdated system. We're not saying model the system after their run, but to learn from it.


Zibs is a fine 2C, but I don't think he's a top line guy.

There's way more centers do than points. Look at guys like ROR & Bergeron. It's not just how about how many points, but defensive play too.

Is Zibs better than Bergeron because he puts up more points?
Jun 25 at 4:32
#24
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Quoting: DongLord23
Zibs is a fine 2C, but I don't think he's a top line guy.

There's way more centers do than points. Look at guys like ROR & Bergeron. It's not just how about how many points, but defensive play too.

Is Zibs better than Bergeron because he puts up more points?


Well, since the team with the most points wins the game, I don't know that there is anything more important when someone can score THAT MUCH. If we were talking about a guy who is a defensive liability, or could only skate in one direction, even with his point production, MAYBE you have a case. But he kills penalties, plays against the toughest competition, is on the top power play, and has similar assists to his goals. Judging him to be a 2C and Mathews/Tavares to be a 1C is just bias.
Jun 25 at 4:36
#25
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Quoting: HOCKEYBOY448
Plus we’re not getting into the top 4 next year with the Isles, Canes, Caps, Pens in front of us.


Quoting: Devil1122
They aren't finishing ahead of the Canes or Islanders

And possibly the Penguins and Capitals


I dont think the pens or caps make it. But i do think everyones sleeping on philly after this season. They certainly have the assets and cap space to go out and get a RD1 and with that that team is dangerous.
 
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