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Eichel hits Gold Fluery returns home

Created by: monkeymo
Published: Jun. 25, 2021 at 4:29 p.m.
Salary Cap: $81,500,000
Season Days: 1/186 (1%)
Central Registry Determination: This trade has been rejected because the cap hit of one of the teams is below the lower limit

Logo of the Buffalo SabresBuffalo Sabres

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Eichel, JackBuffalo SabresIR-$53,763011---0000--
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Jarry, TristanPittsburgh PenguinsNHL-$18,817111-------00
Tuch, AlexVegas Golden KnightsNHL-$25,537111---0000--
Glass, CodyWaivers ExemptVegas Golden KnightsMinor-$0011---0000--
2021 1st round pick (Logo of the Vegas Golden KnightsVGK)---100------
2022 1st round pick (Logo of the Vegas Golden KnightsVGK)---100------
2022 2nd round pick (Logo of the Pittsburgh PenguinsPIT)---010------
2022 2nd round pick (Logo of the Vegas Golden KnightsVGK)---010------
2023 2nd round pick (Logo of the Vegas Golden KnightsVGK)---010------
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$34,150,0001025383812
Change$9,409222230
Final$34,159,409 (↑)12 (↑)27 (↑)40 (↑)5 (↑)11 (↑)12000

Logo of the Pittsburgh PenguinsPittsburgh Penguins

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Jarry, TristanPittsburgh PenguinsNHL-$18,817111-------00
2022 2nd round pick (Logo of the Pittsburgh PenguinsPIT)---010------
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Fleury, Marc-AndréVegas Golden KnightsNHL50%$18,817111-------00
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$3,206,7951935532512
Change$00000-10
Final$3,206,79519355324 (↓)12000

Logo of the Vegas Golden KnightsVegas Golden Knights

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Fleury, Marc-AndréVegas Golden KnightsNHL50%$18,817111-------00
Tuch, AlexVegas Golden KnightsNHL-$25,537111---0000--
Glass, CodyWaivers ExemptVegas Golden KnightsMinor-$0011---0000--
2021 1st round pick (Logo of the Vegas Golden KnightsVGK)---100------
2022 1st round pick (Logo of the Vegas Golden KnightsVGK)---100------
2022 2nd round pick (Logo of the Vegas Golden KnightsVGK)---010------
2023 2nd round pick (Logo of the Vegas Golden KnightsVGK)---010------
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Eichel, JackBuffalo SabresIR-$53,763011---0000--
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$6,097,5611842533513
Change-$9,409-2-2-2-2-20
Final$6,088,152 (↓)16 (↓)40 (↓)51 (↓)1 (↓)3 (↓)13000
Jun. 25, 2021 at 4:31 p.m.
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Edited Jun. 25, 2021 at 4:54 p.m.
I don't know how to have a third party team take on retained salary, but have Vegas move Fluery to BUF then BUF retains 50% of Fluery's remaining 1 year and move him back to PIT. BUF can have either DeSmith or Jarry whoever they want. Based on the Staal deal to DET and Marleau deal to CAR, $3-$4M in cap savings for 1 full year is worth roughly a 2nd and or 3rd round depending on the team who is shedding the salary off from.

Vegas does not have a top 4 dman who is under 25 to offer for Eichel, but with the picks coming back they have more than enough to pick up at least 1 if not even 2 top 4 dmen if they do not want to select with those draft picks.

It seems like a lot of draft picks but effectively its 2 2nds and 2 3rds which isn't bad but isn't great but its a lot of picks which are still very valuable (2 2nds gets you D.Toews)
Jun. 25, 2021 at 5:18 p.m.
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Pit's getting a steal here. Dumping Jarry and only giving up a second for a half price Fleury?
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Jun. 25, 2021 at 6:47 p.m.
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Pit's getting a steal here. Dumping Jarry and only giving up a second for a half price Fleury?


Jarry had an off year, his ceiling isnt much more than a really good 1a goalie type. If he had a 910% save he easily gets a 2nd and 3rd; but down year he probably only worth a 2nd at best. But I wouldn't call it a steal, VGK couldn't move Fleury for anything of value last year while retaining salary and trading a pick with him. He had a great year but he only has 1 year left and I would imagine it's almost a guarantee that Fleury would be signing with Pit at the end of next year so that devalues him in trades because is there a contender that would want Fleury for just 1 year before going back to PIT, id say no.
Jun. 25, 2021 at 7:24 p.m.
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Jarry had an off year, his ceiling isnt much more than a really good 1a goalie type. If he had a 910% save he easily gets a 2nd and 3rd; but down year he probably only worth a 2nd at best. But I wouldn't call it a steal, VGK couldn't move Fleury for anything of value last year while retaining salary and trading a pick with him. He had a great year but he only has 1 year left and I would imagine it's almost a guarantee that Fleury would be signing with Pit at the end of next year so that devalues him in trades because is there a contender that would want Fleury for just 1 year before going back to PIT, id say no.


Jarry had an off year in his first year as a no competition #1. That's a red flag. Fleury has had a great career and only has a couple years left in him. He's exactly what PIT needs to contend. PIT would be getting a guy that their superstars love and already have faith in. In this deal, VEG and BUF are paying for PIT to upgrade, when they could honestly just leave them out of the deal. Send Fleury in the trade to BUF, BUF flips Fleury to PIT for Jarry a pick and a prospect and then covers 50% of the salary. that makes the trade palatable from all sides.
Jun. 25, 2021 at 7:35 p.m.
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BUF flips Fleury to PIT for Jarry a pick and a prospect and then covers 50% of the salary. that makes the trade palatable from all sides.


Thats what I wrote minus the prospect the 50% retained by a third party team I dont know how to do it in the trade simulator, but i wrote that down in the first comment to claifiy that issue.

If it has to be a prospect im guessing its a B-/C+ type at best. 2 former 5th round type guys who have a shot at becoming bottom 6 guys is what I'd imagine. They aint getting a potential top 6 prospect + pick ( i assume 2nd rounder) + Jarry. Jarry is young afterall he is only 26, he's still developing but we both agree if we were in Hextall's shoes we dont wait around for Jary to develop as Sid and Malkin aint getting any younger.

Vegas needs cap space for a top centre as the Habs series showed us
BUF needs assets, a lot of them and quality ones
PIT needs a goalie, Fluery has to be moved and he would only move there anyway, the other option is he doesn't waive his NTC and then VGK has to expose Lenher ahhaa
Jun. 25, 2021 at 8:03 p.m.
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I think Buffalo wins by a lot.
Jun. 25, 2021 at 8:17 p.m.
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Thats what I wrote minus the prospect the 50% retained by a third party team I dont know how to do it in the trade simulator, but i wrote that down in the first comment to claifiy that issue.

If it has to be a prospect im guessing its a B-/C+ type at best. 2 former 5th round type guys who have a shot at becoming bottom 6 guys is what I'd imagine. They aint getting a potential top 6 prospect + pick ( i assume 2nd rounder) + Jarry. Jarry is young afterall he is only 26, he's still developing but we both agree if we were in Hextall's shoes we dont wait around for Jary to develop as Sid and Malkin aint getting any younger.

Vegas needs cap space for a top centre as the Habs series showed us
BUF needs assets, a lot of them and quality ones
PIT needs a goalie, Fluery has to be moved and he would only move there anyway, the other option is he doesn't waive his NTC and then VGK has to expose Lenher ahhaa


I'm not sure Vegas needs a top center. Tuch filled in pretty good, and Stephenson was outstanding this year and was hurt in the first game. Cudo's to the Habs, they've been excellent, but each team they faced has had their 1 or 1B center knocked out of the series in the first game. The prospect would have to be pretty decent I would think. Jarry would only be a stop gap as a 1B (and a pretty expensive one) behind Ullmark until UPL is ready. Joseph would be a good add.
BUF can't afford a long rebuild. Their fanbase is starving, and they have to make it quick (within 2-3 years). Picks are ok, but they need NHL or close to NHL talent in all trades.
Jun. 25, 2021 at 11:40 p.m.
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Buffalo got alot of picks there. Not sold on jarry
Jun. 26, 2021 at 6:11 p.m.
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I'm not sure Vegas needs a top center. Tuch filled in pretty good, and Stephenson was outstanding this year and was hurt in the first game. Cudo's to the Habs, they've been excellent, but each team they faced has had their 1 or 1B center knocked out of the series in the first game. The prospect would have to be pretty decent I would think. Jarry would only be a stop gap as a 1B (and a pretty expensive one) behind Ullmark until UPL is ready. Joseph would be a good add.
BUF can't afford a long rebuild. Their fanbase is starving, and they have to make it quick (within 2-3 years). Picks are ok, but they need NHL or close to NHL talent in all trades.


Tuch is not a top line player why does everyone think he is, he is good a really good second liner. Stephenson has potential to be a number 1/2 centre. They should and need an elite centreman.

No one is going to give what buffalo wants then if they are a contender. I could see Detroit willing to give up Bertuzzi/Vrana + Dman and picks because effectively Detroit's picks are full round a head of Vegas'. But there's no contender that could honestly give up BOTH a top 6 forward centre age 25 under and a top 4 d age 25 under. Only way is through picks, then BUF has to be smart and trade those picks away for players who contenders can't hold onto due to expansion draft.

If they want it all from one team they are going to lose the trade hard.

To the guy who said Jarry is no good, he's another asset for Buffalo to utilize either for trade or to continue develop. He's only 26 he's young and has shown he can be at least a 1B goalie. Buffalo needs assets as many as they can get
Jun. 26, 2021 at 6:45 p.m.
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Tuch is not a top line player why does everyone think he is, he is good a really good second liner. Stephenson has potential to be a number 1/2 centre. They should and need an elite centreman.

No one is going to give what buffalo wants then if they are a contender. I could see Detroit willing to give up Bertuzzi/Vrana + Dman and picks because effectively Detroit's picks are full round a head of Vegas'. But there's no contender that could honestly give up BOTH a top 6 forward centre age 25 under and a top 4 d age 25 under. Only way is through picks, then BUF has to be smart and trade those picks away for players who contenders can't hold onto due to expansion draft.

If they want it all from one team they are going to lose the trade hard.

To the guy who said Jarry is no good, he's another asset for Buffalo to utilize either for trade or to continue develop. He's only 26 he's young and has shown he can be at least a 1B goalie. Buffalo needs assets as many as they can get


The problem is no rebuilding team is gonna give up 2-3 good players / assest for Eichel, cause they're in the same boat as BUF. He's proven he can't lead a rebuilding team to the post season. He needs to go somewhere that is ready to win now.
Jun. 27, 2021 at 7:24 p.m.
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I think Buffalo wins by a lot.


Haha what?
Jun. 28, 2021 at 12:19 a.m.
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Haha what?


Dude, the Sabres get gold

(besides Jarry. He's a disgrace to me.)
 
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