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Again the best Eichel deal for both teams

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Jun. 30, 2021 at 10:11 a.m.
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Edited Jun. 30, 2021 at 12:37 p.m.
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****And then the other guy?? U are apart of the team?? Lol.. that’s great, I’m out in that one..u win my man.

I don’t even want to attempt a conversation with a fan that thinks he is apart of the team..lol. How much is your check from the Sabers monthly?? Lol..


Ok it's a lost cause... You're totally right, a customer base is not VITAL for any business
Jun. 30, 2021 at 1:46 p.m.
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Ok it's a lost cause... You're totally right, a customer base is not VITAL for any business


It doenst make u apart of the business..I’m apart of Amazon then..where’s my check?? Can I make bottled decisions.
Jun. 30, 2021 at 6:20 p.m.
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Yes, he’s saying that what the Sabers are asking for. Basically the equivalent of 4 1st round pick. Just like an offer sheet compensation.

Eichel vs Stuetzle isn’t a comparison stat wise my man. Are u kidding me. Eichel has a 78 point season the year b4 last. When he was fully healthy. And a 80 point season the season b4 that.

U can’t compare them stat wise right now. Stuetzle hasn’t even played a whole season. I can win that argument with my hands behind my back. It’s not even close. Stuetzle ceiling and potential is what u are buying into.

And again, I’m not knocking Stuetzle, I’m a fan. He’s great!! Really good player.

But in my opinion, he’s not gonna be one of those elite guys. I just don’t see it. And I’m not gonna argue and just write the same things different ways using semantics and rhetoric.

I understand your points. I know what they are. U understand mine and know what mine are. It’s cool. We can agree to disagree. I’m not ignoring anything. I think we both understand each other points.

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To be clear, my main point is that being a fan of neither team does not mean you cant be bias. Secondly, you cant compare Eichel now to Stuetzle now but to be clear you can compare each of their first years in the league and the truth of the matter is that they were similar. Stuetzle had a significant impact his first year. He won't be included in an Eichel trade. Like you said the equivalent of an offer sheet is 4 late (mid at best) first round picks. Stuetzle's value far outweighs that regardless of whether or not you think he can be a true 1C.

Agree to disagree on the rest of the matter is fine by me
Jul. 1, 2021 at 8:27 a.m.
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It doenst make u apart of the business..I’m apart of Amazon then..where’s my check?? Can I make bottled decisions.



You clearly didn't understand what I was saying. You must be new to sports fandom if you are arguing about the "we"... This is something people have stopped wondering about a while ago.

Everybody understands they are not part of the management or even the payroll. Fans are pretty well aware of that and speak on BEHALF of what they think their team is going to do or not, or at least should do or not.

Of course, their opinion doesn't change what happens in the reality, seriously what are you trying to say here? Do you think people are dumb? lol

In other news, the sky is blue?

In the case here, if EVERY Sens fan tell you "WE are not going to do that", it means that they really don't want their favorite team to do it. If dorion accepted that proposal, he'd be hated to unseen levels
Jul. 1, 2021 at 4:10 p.m.
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To be clear, my main point is that being a fan of neither team does not mean you cant be bias. Secondly, you cant compare Eichel now to Stuetzle now but to be clear you can compare each of their first years in the league and the truth of the matter is that they were similar. Stuetzle had a significant impact his first year. He won't be included in an Eichel trade. Like you said the equivalent of an offer sheet is 4 late (mid at best) first round picks. Stuetzle's value far outweighs that regardless of whether or not you think he can be a true 1C.

Agree to disagree on the rest of the matter is fine by me


.55 PPG Stuetzle 1st season and .70 PPG in Eichel’s rookie year is a big difference. They arnt similar at all. Similar PPG is like .51-.59/.60. That’s similar.

.55 and .70 is the difference b/ween an elite players rookie season and a really good player.

And again, not knocking Stuetzle, he’s great!! He looks really good. I’m a fan. Just not an Elite guy and most likely will never be. Sorry.
Jul. 1, 2021 at 4:46 p.m.
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.55 PPG Stuetzle 1st season and .70 PPG in Eichel’s rookie year is a big difference. They arnt similar at all. Similar PPG is like .51-.59/.60. That’s similar.

.55 and .70 is the difference b/ween an elite players rookie season and a really good player.

And again, not knocking Stuetzle, he’s great!! He looks really good. I’m a fan. Just not an Elite guy and most likely will never be. Sorry.


So you’re saying within .10 is similar but .14 isn’t? Stuetzle also had a much higher point per 60. Didn’t get as much playing time on the power play either. If playing time was equal his ppg would’ve been working 0.03. Is it similar then?

Cherry picking stats and having imaginary thresholds for elite vs really good gets you no further than simply saying it’s your opinion.

I could just as easily say that he is an elite guy and his stats show that he has to potential to be that in the future. Just lying to yourself if you don’t think that’s a possibility.
Jul. 1, 2021 at 4:56 p.m.
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So you’re saying within .10 is similar but .14 isn’t? Stuetzle also had a much higher point per 60. Didn’t get as much playing time on the power play either. If playing time was equal his ppg would’ve been working 0.03. Is it similar then?

Cherry picking stats and having imaginary thresholds for elite vs really good gets you no further than simply saying it’s your opinion.

I could just as easily say that he is an elite guy and his stats show that he has to potential to be that in the future. Just lying to yourself if you don’t think that’s a possibility.


Dude, cherry picking stats..it’s PPG..lol..whatever u say man. We’ll see.
 
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