Edited Jun. 29, 2021 at 4:14 p.m.
Quoting: pharrow
ummm Sid PK when he needs to so I don't know what you are talking about.
I don't know why you are even trying to compare the two. One is the greatest player in a generation. The other is just another guy who played.
Yet somehow you want to justify a 33 year old player is worth a young 40 goal scorer, a young top 4RD who many view as being able to handle a 1RD role, a 1st, and basically 2 nds.
I'm sorry but you aren't getting that kind of return. EVER. Get over it.
Lol.
I find it hard to take you seriously when you are ignoring actual facts.
Sid has averaged 13 s of SHTOI over the last two seasons and 21s over the last decade. I am not saying he isn't good defensively. He is. Very good. He is not as good as Marchand though.
Marchand over that same 10 year period is 1:37 per game. Marchand has 5X the amount of SHTOI.
Those are facts.
Over that same decade - SO GREAT SAMPLE SIZE
Marchand is 8th in scoring and Crosby is 2nd.
Thing is... Crosby levelled off and Marchand got better. If you drop it to 6 years or 427gp (63) and 412gp (87)
Marchand is 4th and Crosby 6th. Facts. These numbers are not debatable.
How about the last three?
Marchand 5th - Crosby 14th
Marchand has factually been a more productive player for the last five. Sid had the 1st five. Again. Facts.
Where Sid is better is elevating the players around him. With that being said, you can't have it both ways. Would Guentzal be as productive if he were playing with someone else? I personally don't think so. Hornqvist, Rust, Kunitz, Neal, Dupuis or any of the others in a long line of "really?!?" guys who have career years or Careers because of Sid is my reasoning.
I don't know what you are smoking if you don't think Pitt would make this deal. They would. The Bruins wouldn't. I get you have a biased, but I did not propose this deal, nor do I want to move Marchand for a bunch of potential. I will take the guy who has averaged 1.26ppg over the last three seasons.
Marino isn't as good as you are hyping. He is not Adam Fox. He is fine as a second pairing guy, but clearly showed cracks in the armor as the season continued. If he is one of your top 2 dman, you aren't winning anything.
The fact you called Marchand, just another guy is hilarious and shows your lack of knowledge. He is a Hall of famer. No question.
Guess who has the most SHG over the last 15 years? psst... Brad Marchand. Last 10... Marchand.
GWG over the last 10 years? Ovi, Pacioretty, Marchand.
GWG over the last 6? McDavid, Marchand.
Good effort, bud. Good effort.