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Tarasenko to Carolina

Created by: Storm3456
Team: 2021-22 Carolina Hurricanes
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 30, 2021
Published: Jun. 30, 2021
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
With Vlad Tarasenko rumored to be willing to waive his NTC for Carolina, why not have some fun. Take this with a grain of salt as the only rumor is that he has a friendship with Teravainen, but when rumors break, people run with it. And thats exactly what Imma do.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$7,000,000
2$4,000,000
2$950,000
1$900,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$2,500,000
2$1,400,000
2$3,600,000
2$2,000,000
Trades
1.
CAR
    Expansion Draft
    SEA
    1. Bean, Jake [RFA Rights]
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    I would rather not let Jake Bean go, but Carolina already has Slavin, Pesce, and Skjei as their big three for the future. Gardiner is still here, so he can provide offense. Losing Jake Bean wont be the end of the world.
    2.
    STL
    1. Foegele, Warren [RFA Rights]
    2. Mattheos, Stelio
    3. 2021 1st round pick (CAR)
    4. 2022 3rd round pick (CAR)
    Additional Details:
    St. Louis probably wants a 1st + a top/middle six scorer to replace Tarasenko were they to trade him. Instead of adding someone like Nino Niederrieter, Warren Foegele gets his trade and pay bump, and Carolina throws in a 3rd and a prospect. Unlikely, but lets roll with it because why not,
    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2021
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    2022
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    2023
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    20$81,500,000$77,273,583$0$537,500$4,226,417

    Roster

    Left WingCentreRight Wing
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    $7,000,000$7,000,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 8
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    $8,460,250$8,460,250
    C
    UFA - 3
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    $5,400,000$5,400,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 3
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    $3,750,000$3,750,000
    RW
    NTC
    UFA - 2
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    $4,750,000$4,750,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$537,500$538K)
    RW
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $5,250,000$5,250,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $6,000,000$6,000,000
    C, LW
    NMC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $2,000,000$2,000,000
    RW
    UFA - 2
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    $2,500,000$2,500,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $725,000$725,000
    C, LW, RW
    UFA - 1
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    $950,000$950,000
    C, RW
    RFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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    $5,300,000$5,300,000
    LD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $4,025,000$4,025,000
    RD
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $5,250,000$5,250,000
    LD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
    $3,600,000$3,600,000
    RD
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $4,050,000$4,050,000
    LD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $1,400,000$1,400,000
    RD
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $4,000,000$4,000,000
    G
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $2,000,000$2,000,000
    G
    UFA - 2

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    Jun. 30, 2021 at 1:44 p.m.
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    Makes no sense to protect Skjei over Bean. Skjei hadn't been good and is overpaid. High chance he wouldn't get taken when left exposed anyways but I highly doubt they protect him over Bean
    Jun. 30, 2021 at 1:47 p.m.
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    I’ll accept an argument that Skjei might be overpaid, but he’s hasn’t been bad. Actually, he’s been quite serviceable as a 2nd pairing LHD and penalty killer. He’s fit quite well in Carolina.

    My guess is you didn’t watch Bean play much

    Quoting: TrueCanuck
    Makes no sense to protect Skjei over Bean. Skjei hadn't been good and is overpaid. High chance he wouldn't get taken when left exposed anyways but I highly doubt they protect him over Bean
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    Jun. 30, 2021 at 1:48 p.m.
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    I know this is just for fun, but you can’t run that lean on roster spots and cap space.
    Jun. 30, 2021 at 1:52 p.m.
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    Quoting: Caniac555
    I’ll accept an argument that Skjei might be overpaid, but he’s hasn’t been bad. Actually, he’s been quite serviceable as a 2nd pairing LHD and penalty killer. He’s fit quite well in Carolina.

    My guess is you didn’t watch Bean play much


    I've watched Bean play for years - likely longer than you have. He hasn't turned out as planned so far, but defence generally take a bit longer to develop due to mobility development. I highly doubt a team would be willing to give up on a guy like Bean so early knowing that he still has development time left.

    That being said, I think you need to rethink what a 2nd pair defenceman is. A guy can be the best penalty killer in the league, but if there's not offence to his game then he's not a "serviceable 2nd pair guy". Skjei has 11 points in 59 games with Carolina - that's not good for a second pair defenceman. He's a third pair guy that's highly overpaid and was overpaid based on potential that didn't work out.
    Jun. 30, 2021 at 1:57 p.m.
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    Quoting: TrueCanuck
    I've watched Bean play for years - likely longer than you have. He hasn't turned out as planned so far, but defence generally take a bit longer to develop due to mobility development. I highly doubt a team would be willing to give up on a guy like Bean so early knowing that he still has development time left.

    That being said, I think you need to rethink what a 2nd pair defenceman is. A guy can be the best penalty killer in the league, but if there's not offence to his game then he's not a "serviceable 2nd pair guy". Skjei has 11 points in 59 games with Carolina - that's not good for a second pair defenceman. He's a third pair guy that's highly overpaid and was overpaid based on potential that didn't work out.


    Is Slavin also a 3rd pair guy? He only put up 15 points in 52 games.

    I don't even disagree that we should protect Bean over Skjei, but basing a players role on the amount of points they put up is rediculous
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    Jun. 30, 2021 at 2:22 p.m.
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    I’ll just leave this here @TrueCanuck

    I know that Skjei can play 30 mins in a playoff game if he has to. I’ve seen it multiple times just this year when Slavin was out. I don’t (and neither do the Canes) trust Bean with anything more than sheltered 9 mins per night and some PP time.

    I was very pro-Bean heading into this year, and was quite pleased when he first got his shot in the lineup. He was piling up the points and looking strong. The problem is that NHL teams figured him out. He just isn’t strong enough on his skates to be a consistently good Top 4 defenseman in the NHL. He is a third pairing Offensive defenseman who is good on the PP. I can find that as a UFA. I can’t find what Skjei brings as easily without giving up assets or paying just as much.

    Canes protect Slavin, Pesce and Skjei, let Seattle choose between Bean and a few other forwards. That’s the way it goes.
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    Jun. 30, 2021 at 2:25 p.m.
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    Quoting: Caniac555
    I’ll just leave this here TrueCanuck …

    I know that Skjei can play 30 mins in a playoff game if he has to. I’ve seen it multiple times just this year when Slavin was out. I don’t (and neither do the Canes) trust Bean with anything more than sheltered 9 mins per night and some PP time.

    I was very pro-Bean heading into this year, and was quite pleased when he first got his shot in the lineup. He was piling up the points and looking strong. The problem is that NHL teams figured him out. He just isn’t strong enough on his skates to be a consistently good Top 4 defenseman in the NHL. He is a third pairing Offensive defenseman who is good on the PP. I can find that as a UFA. I can’t find what Skjei brings as easily without giving up assets or paying just as much.

    Canes protect Slavin, Pesce and Skjei, let Seattle choose between Bean and a few other forwards. That’s the way it goes.


    All of this is fair but I think it’s still to early to give up on Bean personally. This is the make or break year for him - needs to have a good offseason and put on some weight and muscle and see if he can improve in his first full season.

    Would be great if Seattle took Fast or Foegele and left both (or Gardiner but that’s a dream scenario)
    Jun. 30, 2021 at 2:28 p.m.
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    I can get with this…I’m not saying give up on Bean, I guess what I’m saying is we shouldn’t be letting anything of value walk out the door just to keep him. The Canes are going to lose someone, Why let a solid NHL defenseman under contract walk for nothing

    Quoting: vikhodush
    All of this is fair but I think it’s still to early to give up on Bean personally. This is the make or break year for him - needs to have a good offseason and put on some weight and muscle and see if he can improve in his first full season.

    Would be great if Seattle took Fast or Foegele and left both (or Gardiner but that’s a dream scenario)
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    Jun. 30, 2021 at 6:27 p.m.
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    Quoting: OnlyBadDeals
    Is Slavin also a 3rd pair guy? He only put up 15 points in 52 games.

    I don't even disagree that we should protect Bean over Skjei, but basing a players role on the amount of points they put up is rediculous


    Nice comparison.. an elite defensive defenceman and a mediocre defensive defenceman. When a player is as elite as Slavin, the offence doesn't matter. Skjei is mediocre at best defensively, and awful offensively. That doesn't make him a top 4 guy. But sure, if you think that does have fun losing to elite teams every season and never getting over the hump!
    Jun. 30, 2021 at 7:11 p.m.
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    Quoting: TrueCanuck
    Nice comparison.. an elite defensive defenceman and a mediocre defensive defenceman. When a player is as elite as Slavin, the offence doesn't matter. Skjei is mediocre at best defensively, and awful offensively. That doesn't make him a top 4 guy. But sure, if you think that does have fun losing to elite teams every season and never getting over the hump!


    You limited your argument to points, so I did the same. You said nothing about Skjei's abilities beyond that he doesn't put up points and he is a 3rd pair guy. I honestly share the same opinion on Skjei as you, but I hate it when people use offensive as their only arguing point when talking about defensemen
     
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