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Preferred Offseason Trades Scenario 2

Created by: sabrespain
Initial Creation Date: Jun 29, 2021
Published: Jul 1 at 11:37
Team: 2021-22 Buffalo Sabres
Trades
BUF
  1. Turcotte, Alex
  2. Kempe, Adrian
  3. 2021 1st round pick (LAK)
LAK
  1. Eichel, Jack
BUF
  1. Boldy, Matthew
  2. 2021 1st round pick (PIT)
MIN
  1. Reinhart, Sam [RFA Rights]
  2. Olofsson, Victor
  3. 2021 6th round pick (COL)
Additional Details:
Reinhart signs long term extension
BUF
  1. 2021 3rd round pick (CBJ)
CBJ
  1. Ristolainen, Rasmus
BUF
    21 7th round pick
    22 7th round pick
    23 7th round pick
    24 7th round pick
    25 7th round pick
    26 7th round pick

    All picks are conditional. If Skinner scores at least 30 goals in a season, we get that year's 7th rounder. If he doesn't, they keep the pick.
    SEA
    1. Skinner, Jeff
    2. 2021 1st round pick (PIT)
    3. 2021 3rd round pick (CBJ)
    4. 2023 2nd round pick (BUF)
    Buyouts
    • Cody Hodgson: $791,667
    • Christian Ehrhoff: $0
    DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
    2021
    BUF
    LAK
    BUF
    BOS
    FLA
    MTL
    BUF
    MTL
    BUF
    BUF
    2022
    BUF
    BUF
    BUF
    BUF
    BUF
    BUF
    2023
    BUF
    BUF
    BUF
    BUF
    BUF
    BUF
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
    10$81,500,000$23,675,000$0$3,000,000$57,825,000
    Left WingCenterRight Wing
    BUF
    Bjork, Anders
    $1,600,000
    LW, RW
    RFA - 2
    BUF
    Eakin, Cody
    $2,250,000
    C
    UFA - 1
    BUF
    Okposo, Kyle
    $6,000,000
    RW
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    LAK
    Kempe, Adrian
    $2,000,000
    LW, RW
    RFA - 1
    BUF
    Cozens, Dylan
    $894,167
    C, LW
    RFA - 2
    BUF
    Thompson, Tage
    $1,400,000
    RW
    RFA - 2
    LAK
    Turcotte, Alex
    $894,167
    C
    RFA - 3
    MIN
    Boldy, Matthew
    $880,833
    C
    RFA - 2
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    BUF
    Bryson, Jacob
    $889,166
    LD
    RFA - 1
    BUF
    Miller, Colin
    $3,875,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    BUF
    Girgensons, Zemgus
    $2,200,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 2

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    Jul 1 at 11:48
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    Shibbal18
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    If he scores 30 goals why is that only worth a 7th
    Jul 1 at 11:51
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    Hard pass from Minnesota.
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    Jul 1 at 12:49
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    Yeah hard pass. Victor O being added doesn't mean Minnesota will trade Matt boldy for Sam Reinhart,,& give him long term extension.
    Jul 1 at 1:38
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    Im gonna say no to minnesota. We are giving up 2- 20 goal scorers, and that is likely worst case scenario 20 goal scorers and we get boldy and late first in a crappy draft. No interest in moving olofsson. Its dumb.
    Jul 1 at 2:06
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    Quoting: sabres89
    Im gonna say no to minnesota. We are giving up 2- 20 goal scorers, and that is likely worst case scenario 20 goal scorers and we get boldy and late first in a crappy draft. No interest in moving olofsson. Its dumb.


    Olofsson is next to useless if he doesn't have an elite player on the other side on the powerplay. He's bad at 5v5. That late first is used to get rid of Skinner.
    Jul 1 at 2:07
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    Quoting: Clement
    Yeah hard pass. Victor O being added doesn't mean Minnesota will trade Matt boldy for Sam Reinhart,,& give him long term extension.


    You must really think highly of Boldy.
    Jul 1 at 2:09
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    Quoting: Shibbal18
    If he scores 30 goals why is that only worth a 7th


    Anything to get rid of the man.
    Jul 1 at 2:13
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    Quoting: sabrespain
    You must really think highly of Boldy.


    Boldy's cap works so much better for MN. They already have a bunch of expensive wings, adding another one is just bad cap/roster management.
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    Jul 1 at 2:13
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    Quoting: sabrespain
    You must really think highly of Boldy.


    He's 20 years old and a top 10-15 prospect in the league right now. He's going to be on the team this season, and he should be a 20 goal scorer himself before too long. There's no reason to trade a prospect like him for a winger like Reinhart who's going to be looking for a lot more money. Boldy is projected to be as good or better than Reinhart. We'll keep that.
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    Jul 1 at 2:17
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    Quoting: wabit
    Boldy's cap works so much better for MN. They already have a bunch of expensive wings, adding another one is just bad cap/roster management.


    Do you think you can win a cup before Boldy's ELC is up? Reinhart can play center.
    Jul 1 at 2:18
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    Quoting: wabit
    Boldy's cap works so much better for MN. They already have a bunch of expensive wings, adding another one is just bad cap/roster management.


    Yop x100
    Jul 1 at 2:19
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    Quoting: sabrespain
    Do you think you can win a cup before Boldy's ELC is up? Reinhart can play center.


    30 games experience doesn't mean much. He's not a c either. 36 percent in face-offs prove that
    Jul 1 at 2:20
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    Quoting: Clement
    30 games experience doesn't mean much. He's not a c either. 36 percent in face-offs prove that


    You haven't watched any Sabres game. Also I'd like to know where you got that 36 from.
    Jul 1 at 2:32
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    Quoting: sabrespain
    You haven't watched any Sabres game. Also I'd like to know where you got that 36 from.


    2 or the last 3 seasons he's been below 36%, he's a career 38.8% FO. He bumped it up to 45% last season, but that's not anything special.

    Quoting: sabrespain
    Do you think you can win a cup before Boldy's ELC is up? Reinhart can play center.


    I don't want a wing that can play center, We could have just kept Coyle or Granlund. I want an actual center playing center.
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    Jul 1 at 2:34
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    Quoting: sabrespain
    You haven't watched any Sabres game. Also I'd like to know where you got that 36 from.


    Here is one that says 38 percent career wise

    https://puckbase.com/player/sam-reinhart

    Another one that says he's a career 38 percent in face-offs
    https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/r/reinhsa01.html

    Buffalo fans are very much over evaluating a player who barely played 30 or 35 games @ C, restricted free agent. & wants out
    Jul 1 at 2:48
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    Quoting: Clement
    Here is one that says 38 percent career wise

    https://puckbase.com/player/sam-reinhart

    Another one that says he's a career 38 percent in face-offs
    https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/r/reinhsa01.html

    Buffalo fans are very much over evaluating a player who barely played 30 or 35 games @ C, restricted free agent. & wants out


    So not 36%. And why are you taking his career faceoff % when he wasn't playing center. When he was playing center this year, he was at 45% which isn't impressive, but better than your 36.

    That's ok, Wild fan proposals for Eichel are also laughable.
     
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