Just curious as to why you think colorado has to move johnson?

Thats not enough to get Reinhart.

The expansion unless they do 4 V 4. Am I missing something obvious?

I had Buffalo fans tell me yesterday they would do Madden and a couple mid round picks for him. I asked and thats what they told me. They also said Kupari and mid round picks so if thats the case im okay with it

Really thats it? How good would you say madden is?

COL accepts, but instead of Gundstrom maybe make one of the picks a 2nd and the other a 4?

I thought Maatta was good?

It is believed he will waive his NMC and be left unprotected, i haven't heard any official statement that he has yet but that is the main stream of thinking. That or he would get bought out i think in order to protect Toews, Makar and girard.
Graves i think will be available for trade but i don't think they will be looking to take back much money in contracts so that might not be able to be done for cap reasons.

I created a posted specifically just asking for his value and thats what they said and as for me I think he can be a Top 6ish player but I originally thought his value would also be more. I would Go Madden, 2nd and like a next yr 3rd and Lizotte and Lemieux(Just cause I dont need them now lol)

POOP last year haha

Reinhart had a good season on a really bad team, buf at least needs to get a first and some good prospects for him IMO.

1) that was a Canucks fan
2) he said Madden and pick 8 or Vilardi and a mid round pick (as high as a second)
Smashing those two offers together doesn’t get it done imo. Also should note another said Turcotte, but that’s desperation by LA and woulda been done pre VA if it had happened.
I don’t see reinhart going to LA with Madden being the primary piece, no matter what comes after.

Anyone who is willing to take this deal for him is simply frustrated and looking to get anything different on that team. The reality is his value is significantly higher than this. Madden is the only truly good prospect in this trade. The third and fourth round picks are essentially nothing, and Lizotte is probably a career third liner. Buffalo doesn’t really need more bottom six players as much as they need more top six ones.

And too much for Graves. And he forgot to lose someone to Seattle.

Too much for expansion-draft-fodder Graves. Take out Kempe.

Buffalo obviously says no

EJ wont be an issue in the ED, that said Graves will be exposed and will surely be available for a trade. I think you likely wont need to offer up that much to get Graves either but he would be a good target for LA, I think that would be smart business.

Reinhart will cost much more and I am not sure it will be so easy to move out Maatta

I like that deal for COL. gets them 2 cheap roster players and also clears cap. Tbh Id take Grundstrom and Kempe even without the picks on top