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DuncunK

Created by: TxRollerhawk
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 2, 2021
Published: Jul. 2, 2021
Team: 2021-22 Chicago Blackhawks
Trades
1.
CHI
  1. Neal, James
  2. Yamamoto, Kailer [RFA Rights]
EDM
  1. Keith, Duncan
  2. Beaudin, Nicolas
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Olli Määttä: $750,108 (18%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2021
CHI
CHI
VGK
CHI
VAN
CHI
CHI
FLA
2022
CHI
CHI
CHI
VGK
CHI
CHI
CHI
2023
CHI
CHI
CHI
CHI
CHI
CHI
CHI
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$65,938,381$452,439$5,115,000$15,561,619
Left WingCenterRight Wing
CHI
DeBrincat, Alex
$6,400,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
CHI
Toews, Jonathan
$10,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 2
CHI
Kane, Patrick
$10,500,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 2
CHI
Kubalik, Dominik
$3,700,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
CHI
Dach, Kirby
$925,000
C, RW
RFA - 1
CHI
Connolly, Brett
$3,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
CHI
Hardman, Mike
$912,500
LW, RW
RFA - 1
CHI
Strome, Dylan
$3,000,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
CHI
Carpenter, Ryan
$1,000,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
CHI
Kurashev, Philipp
$842,500
LW, RW
RFA - 1
CHI
Borgström, Henrik
$1,000,000
C
RFA - 2
CHI
Entwistle, Mackenzie
$811,667
C
RFA - 1
EDM
Neal, James
$5,750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
EDM
Neal, James
$750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
CHI
De Haan, Calvin
$4,550,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
CHI
Murphy, Connor
$3,850,000
RD
UFA - 1
CHI
Delia, Collin
$1,000,000
G
UFA - 1
CHI
Stillman, Riley
$1,350,000
LD
RFA - 3
CHI
Mitchell, Ian
$925,000
RD
RFA - 2
CHI
Subban, Malcolm
$850,000
G
UFA - 1
CHI
Kalynuk, Wyatt
$925,000
LD
RFA - 1
CHI
Boqvist, Adam
$894,167
RD
RFA - 1
CHI
Lankinen, Kevin
$800,000
G
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
CHI
Shaw, Andrew
$3,900,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
CHI
Seabrook, Brent
$6,875,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 3

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Jul. 2, 2021 at 8:23 p.m.
#1
Joined: Feb. 2018
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Edited Jul. 2, 2021 at 11:34 p.m.
Oilers don't need D prospects we need Yamamotos. Trade doesn't work for Edmonton
Jul. 2, 2021 at 8:26 p.m.
#2
Bringer_Of_Snow
Joined: Apr. 2016
Posts: 1,310
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Lol switch Beaudin for Kubalik and there is a conversation to be had. Yamamoto was a huge part of the team last season and had a sophomore slump. As far as i'm concerned, Neal and Keith are equal in value. Similar contracts. Lets also not forget Chicago doesn't really have any leverage in a trade. Keith is deciding where he wants to go. Its not like there is a bidding war or anything
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Jul. 2, 2021 at 9:32 p.m.
#3
Joined: Apr. 2018
Posts: 634
Likes: 175
Yams for that? C'mon
Jul. 2, 2021 at 10:00 p.m.
#4
Cup Whore
Joined: Jan. 2018
Posts: 196
Likes: 32
Quoting: Bringer_Of_Snow
Lol switch Beaudin for Kubalik and there is a conversation to be had. Yamamoto was a huge part of the team last season and had a sophomore slump. As far as i'm concerned, Neal and Keith are equal in value. Similar contracts. Lets also not forget Chicago doesn't really have any leverage in a trade. Keith is deciding where he wants to go. Its not like there is a bidding war or anything


And how many firsts is Edmonton sending? In what universe is Neal equal to Keith? Kubalik is better than Yamamoto. You Edmonton fans think all other teams players are worth nothing.
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Jul. 2, 2021 at 10:39 p.m.
#5
themriley
Joined: Apr. 2020
Posts: 77
Likes: 34
Quoting: RicXX
And how many firsts is Edmonton sending? In what universe is Neal equal to Keith? Kubalik is better than Yamamoto. You Edmonton fans think all other teams players are worth nothing.


You aren't getting any firsts for Keith, even if Neal is going the other way. Neals buyout is minimal, and Keith can choose where he goes which prevents any market value. Keith is also declining himself and is no guarantee to be a NHL roster player for his remaining contract.
Jul. 2, 2021 at 11:17 p.m.
#6
Bringer_Of_Snow
Joined: Apr. 2016
Posts: 1,310
Likes: 598
Quoting: RicXX
And how many firsts is Edmonton sending? In what universe is Neal equal to Keith? Kubalik is better than Yamamoto. You Edmonton fans think all other teams players are worth nothing.


See the below comment. Neither Keith or Neal are worth what they are making. Both are primarily leadership/experience guys. They have similar term and AAV remaining. Duncan Keith is 38. His production has been steadily declining. Still a good skater, but not a guaranteed top 4 guy anymore. Neal is a 3rd line player who can chip in on the pp.

Neither player carries much value. Keith being vocal about wanting to move to a specific number of teams also diminishes his value. Chicago, rightfully so, wants to accommodate this, given all he has done for the team. So to summarize, especially after Neal was battling coming back to 100% after COVID, Keith is probably a more impactful player, but he's also 38. I don't think its even remotely unrealistic to say that they are similar in value considering all the points above.

This trade goes way off the rails once Yamamoto was "thrown in". He was a ppg player last season for a 30 game stretch once getting called up. This season he didn't produce as much, but his style of play and tenacity was always a positive thing. Guy just needed to bare down a little. He for the time being is in our top 6 next season so tossing him in a trade just adds a 3rd top 6 winger to the list, which is already going to be tough to achieve. Obviously Kubalik is better than Yamamoto. But adding Yamamoto to a Neal-Keith trade is just as ridiculous as adding Kubalik here.
Jul. 3, 2021 at 9:04 a.m.
#7
Thread Starter
Boom shaka
Joined: Jun. 2019
Posts: 153
Likes: 18
Quoting: Bringer_Of_Snow
See the below comment. Neither Keith or Neal are worth what they are making. Both are primarily leadership/experience guys. They have similar term and AAV remaining. Duncan Keith is 38. His production has been steadily declining. Still a good skater, but not a guaranteed top 4 guy anymore. Neal is a 3rd line player who can chip in on the pp.

Neither player carries much value. Keith being vocal about wanting to move to a specific number of teams also diminishes his value. Chicago, rightfully so, wants to accommodate this, given all he has done for the team. So to summarize, especially after Neal was battling coming back to 100% after COVID, Keith is probably a more impactful player, but he's also 38. I don't think its even remotely unrealistic to say that they are similar in value considering all the points above.

This trade goes way off the rails once Yamamoto was "thrown in". He was a ppg player last season for a 30 game stretch once getting called up. This season he didn't produce as much, but his style of play and tenacity was always a positive thing. Guy just needed to bare down a little. He for the time being is in our top 6 next season so tossing him in a trade just adds a 3rd top 6 winger to the list, which is already going to be tough to achieve. Obviously Kubalik is better than Yamamoto. But adding Yamamoto to a Neal-Keith trade is just as ridiculous as adding Kubalik here.


That's why I "threw in" a former 1st rd pick.
 
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