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Created by: adamorimoli61
Team: 2021-22 Detroit Red Wings
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 3, 2021
Published: Jul. 3, 2021
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$3,500,000
5$5,000,000
2$1,000,000
1$1,000,000
3$1,500,000
2$1,500,000
1$750,000
4$4,000,000
5$15,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$850,000
2$825,000
3$4,000,000
3$4,000,000
2$1,500,000
3$3,500,000
1$900,000
5$5,500,000
1$800,000
Offer Sheets
Offer sheet annual average (AAV) is calculated by dividing the contract value by the lower of: 1. The contract length, or 2. Five years
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Makar, Cale$15,000,000
2022 1st round pick
2023 1st round pick
2024 1st round pick
2025 1st round pick
Trades
1.
DET
SEA
  1. Namestnikov, Vladislav
Additional Details:
SEA selects Vladislav Namestnikov in the expansion draft.
2.
DET
  1. 2023 3rd round pick (WSH)
WSH
  1. Nielsen, Frans ($2,250,000 retained)
3.
DET
  1. 2022 3rd round pick (ARI)
ARI
  1. DeKeyser, Danny ($1,500,000 retained)
  2. 2022 5th round pick (DET)
4.
BUF
  1. Pánik, Richard
  2. 2022 4th round pick (DET)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
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2021
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$76,324,723$0$3,350,000$5,175,277
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LW
UFA - 3
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$6,100,000$6,100,000
C
UFA - 2
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 6
$4,000,000$4,000,000
C
UFA - 3
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
RW, LW
RFA - 3
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW, LW
RFA - 1
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$2,950,000$2,950,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, C
UFA - 3
$1,500,000$1,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
C
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
$3,500,000$3,500,000
LD
UFA - 3
$15,000,000$15,000,000
RD
UFA - 6
$4,000,000$4,000,000
G
UFA - 2
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
LD
UFA
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
RFA - 3
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$3,600,000$3,600,000
G
UFA - 1
$900,000$900,000
LD
UFA - 2
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$1,700,000$1,700,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
$800,000$800,000
RD
UFA - 1

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Jul. 3, 2021 at 4:14 p.m.
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I know Washington wouldn't do it, but is there any team in the league that would pay for Nielsen? Even at that retention?
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Jul. 3, 2021 at 4:14 p.m.
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Easy no for Buffalo, why would we trade a younger player with a cheaper contract to acquire an older even more 1 trick pony?
Jul. 3, 2021 at 4:16 p.m.
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imagine thinking you could get any kind of return for Frans Nielsen, at any price
Jul. 3, 2021 at 4:18 p.m.
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That one I wonder if Colorado would atleast think about. Those draft picks will be high.

No from buffalo
Jul. 3, 2021 at 4:34 p.m.
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Djoos signed in Europe.
Over pay for svechnikov.
No one is paying for Neilson.
No one is paying for dekeyser.
Panik is a cap dump, definitely not getting Thompson for him.
Those four first round picks, especially with this team, are lottery picks.
Not to mention if you ever get to a spot where you want to compete, makars cap hit is going to hinder every other contract.
The only thing here I like is the Wennberg signing, but then you are filling a hole where a young player could potentially be playing later in the year or next year.
Jul. 3, 2021 at 4:35 p.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
That one I wonder if Colorado would atleast think about. Those draft picks will be high.

No from buffalo


How could they not accept the draft picks? They will get 4 players of equal value with all those lottery picks.
Jul. 3, 2021 at 4:50 p.m.
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Edited Jul. 3, 2021 at 5:06 p.m.
DDK is probably your best trade, but I don’t see any teams making any of these trades.

EDIT- I didn’t even notice the offer sheet. No comment.
Jul. 3, 2021 at 4:52 p.m.
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Easy no for Buffalo, why would we trade a younger player with a cheaper contract to acquire an older even more 1 trick pony?


cause tage thompson is bad, this experiment should be over in buffalo
Jul. 3, 2021 at 4:52 p.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
That one I wonder if Colorado would atleast think about. Those draft picks will be high.

No from buffalo


i literally dont think Colorado can
Jul. 3, 2021 at 4:55 p.m.
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I know Washington wouldn't do it, but is there any team in the league that would pay for Nielsen? Even at that retention?


i think a team could at least take a chance on Nielsen at 3 million for 1 year, especially one LIKE Washington where their time is running out for another cup, and could use some help at centre.
Jul. 3, 2021 at 4:58 p.m.
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i think a team could at least take a chance on Nielsen at 3 million for 1 year, especially one LIKE Washington where their time is running out for another cup, and could use some help at centre.


What help could the Caps use at center where Nielsen is an option? Eller and Dowd give us one of the better bottom-six center tandems in the league. Nielsen certainly isn't a top six center that would supplant either Backstrom or Kuznetsov.
Jul. 3, 2021 at 4:59 p.m.
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How could they not accept the draft picks? They will get 4 players of equal value with all those lottery picks.


i mean you would also be losing a norris level player who is only 22 years old, doubt any of those picks turn into a guy of Makar's level unless they luck out into a top 3 pick but with Detroits roster like this, it think it would be around the #10 pick
Jul. 3, 2021 at 5:01 p.m.
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What help could the Caps use at center where Nielsen is an option? Eller and Dowd give us one of the better bottom-six center tandems in the league. Nielsen certainly isn't a top six center that would supplant either Backstrom or Kuznetsov.


id imagine dowd or nielsen could move to the wing. Nielsen isn't great but I also think he looks alot worse bc hes on the red wings. He can certainly add some smarts, leadership and maybe an option on PP2. Also a fairly low-risk move since its only 1 year
Jul. 3, 2021 at 5:07 p.m.
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i mean you would also be losing a norris level player who is only 22 years old, doubt any of those picks turn into a guy of Makar's level unless they luck out into a top 3 pick but with Detroits roster like this, it think it would be around the #10 pick


With this defence, and those goalies unless they turn their games right around, this team is a bottom feeder for quote a few years. Not to mention the lack in cap space to sign up and coming guys to their raises.
Jul. 3, 2021 at 5:09 p.m.
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id imagine dowd or nielsen could move to the wing. Nielsen isn't great but I also think he looks alot worse bc hes on the red wings. He can certainly add some smarts, leadership and maybe an option on PP2. Also a fairly low-risk move since its only 1 year


Just doesn't fit into our lineup. Ovechkin is the only of our 12 forwards that isn't signed, and given how cash strapped we are, there's no room for another $3M bottom six guy. The fourth line of Hagelin-Dowd-Hathaway was the only line that stuck together the whole season and was very good against Boston. Nielsen seems more a target for a team with a bunch of young forwards that could use a veteran presence. Caps need to get younger, not older.
Jul. 3, 2021 at 5:14 p.m.
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Hearing you out....Avs match no matter what

Plus why in the world is makar wanting to sign in Detroit. Just bc a team prepares an OS doesn't mean it even sees the light of day in front of the player. Guys do value winning, fit, culture, etc over money
Jul. 3, 2021 at 5:18 p.m.
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With this defence, and those goalies unless they turn their games right around, this team is a bottom feeder for quote a few years. Not to mention the lack in cap space to sign up and coming guys to their raises.


If Andersen can be a .907 2.90 type of goalie (which is possible), then they will be fine on the goaltending. I'd also look at drafting Wallstedt if I were them at 6. But if they dont, they are probably going defenceman at 6 meaning they will have #6 pick, Seider, Viro, Johansson all coming up next year or in the next few years. They would also have the best defenceman on the planet with them who is only 21. Hronek and Reilly are also very capable top 4 defencemen.

That is not a bottom feeder team...
Jul. 3, 2021 at 5:20 p.m.
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Hearing you out....Avs match no matter what

Plus why in the world is makar wanting to sign in Detroit. Just bc a team prepares an OS doesn't mean it even sees the light of day in front of the player. Guys do value winning, fit, culture, etc over money


Money is always #1 for most players, and any player would be more than okay playing on a roster constructed by Steve Yzerman. The Red Wings will be competing in the next 2 years. And Colorado might not have the money to match it
Jul. 3, 2021 at 5:24 p.m.
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Money is always #1 for most players, and any player would be more than okay playing on a roster constructed by Steve Yzerman. The Red Wings will be competing in the next 2 years. And Colorado might not have the money to match it


no its not the #1 thing for most players, that is flat out wrong. Youre a leafs fan, Tavares left multi million dollars off the table to sign with the Leafs instead of the Sharks bc he had other reasons besides Money. Panarin didnt sign the Avs bigger offer to go to the New York bc he wanted to live there instead. We can go on and on about how players do this

And that that roster is awful right now with one of the worst coaching staffs in the league that they just extended. So right now why would someone want to sign an OS and not win a thing for 5 years and waste a large chunk of their prime.

And Avs can match it. Look at how you just gave away Cap space in your moves in DeKeyser and Nielsen. If its that easily to move money in the flat cap, avs can buyout EJ and trade compher to add a few extra million beyond the 10m they have set aside for Makar now
Jul. 3, 2021 at 5:47 p.m.
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no its not the #1 thing for most players, that is flat out wrong. Youre a leafs fan, Tavares left multi million dollars off the table to sign with the Leafs instead of the Sharks bc he had other reasons besides Money. Panarin didnt sign the Avs bigger offer to go to the New York bc he wanted to live there instead. We can go on and on about how players do this

And that that roster is awful right now with one of the worst coaching staffs in the league that they just extended. So right now why would someone want to sign an OS and not win a thing for 5 years and waste a large chunk of their prime.

And Avs can match it. Look at how you just gave away Cap space in your moves in DeKeyser and Nielsen. If its that easily to move money in the flat cap, avs can buyout EJ and trade compher to add a few extra million beyond the 10m they have set aside for Makar now


Wouldn't go that far about the coaching staff, probably don't know much about them, but I agree with the logic of them being able to match if it was that easy.
Jul. 3, 2021 at 5:47 p.m.
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Ok all the the trades are lopsided in Detroit favor.

The value of your RFA signings are off.

There is a good chance Hirose is the only UFA out of that group that signs in Detroit maybe Gagner as well if he doesn't go back to Edmonton.

But that is exactly who I think Seattle takes from Detroit in the expansion draft.
Jul. 3, 2021 at 5:56 p.m.
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Wouldn't go that far about the coaching staff, probably don't know much about them, but I agree with the logic of them being able to match if it was that easy.


Blashill is a pretty awful HC, there is no denying that
Jul. 3, 2021 at 5:59 p.m.
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Blashill is a pretty awful HC, there is no denying that


Ok your opinion
Jul. 3, 2021 at 6:03 p.m.
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Ok your opinion


A very common analysis of him as a coach across all fan bases, and a common thought of many red wings fans
 
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