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Created by: hockeybadger

Team: 2021-22 Vancouver Canucks

Initial Creation Date: Jul. 5, 2021

Published: Jul. 5, 2021

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

Point of this team: Get your ducks in line for the 2022-23 season while getting better this upcoming season (keeping salaries down).

Trades:

Appleton for a pick and an exempt prospect (pre expansion draft): Lockwood is looking to be a future bottom six winger who brings speed and grit. He's also exempt from the expansion draft. Add in a 3rd and it could work (Don't think WPG wants to give up Appleton and then have to expose someone else with value).

Schmidt for DeBrusk (post expansion draft): This is a great opportunity for both players to get a fresh start. This is a one for one, but there might be a need to add on both sides to make it work cap wise. I'd think Schmidt wouldn't have BOS on his no trade list.

Foegele for a pick and prospect (post expansion draft): It seems like he's on his way out in Carolina as he's in a similar situation that Stecher had here in VAN (CAR wants to sign him to a deal lower than his qualifying offer). Lind is a player that doesn't seem to be a fit in VAN and a conditional 2nd packaged could do the trick. Let me know Canes fans.

Signings:

VAN needs to bring in as many low costs bets as they can. With the team in Abbotsford it's the perfect situation for the hockey ops to have an eye on them. As long as the money is under $1.1M it can get buried in the AHL so these are practically no risks. I have Dzingel, McCabe, Merrill, Pysyk, and Hinostroza all as examples of these kinds of players.

Buyouts:

Benning was pretty talkative on Buyouts, but the only one I see happening is Virtanen (for obvious reasons).

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Hughes, Quinn	4	$6,500,000
Juolevi, Olli	1	$875,000
Pettersson, Elias	3	$7,250,000
Foegele, Warren	3	$2,750,000

UFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Graovac, Tyler	1	$750,000
Bailey, Justin	1	$750,000
Hamonic, Travis	2	$2,500,000
Dzingel, Ryan	1	$850,000
McCabe, Jake	1	$1,100,000
Merrill, Jon	1	$1,000,000
Schenn, Luke	1	$1,000,000
Pysyk, Mark	1	$1,000,000
Hinostroza, Vinnie	1	$1,000,000

Trades

VAN

Appleton, Mason

WPG

Lockwood, William
2021 3rd round pick (VAN)

CAR

Lind, Kole [RFA Rights]
2022 2nd round pick (VAN)

Buyouts

Jake Virtanen: $50,000

Recapture Fees

Roberto Luongo: $3,035,212

Buried

Loui Eriksson: $4,875,000 ($6,000,000)
Antoine Roussel: $1,875,000 ($3,000,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2021
2022
2023

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$81,500,000	$77,200,659	$648,780	$1,900,000	$4,299,341

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Höglander, Nils $891,667$891,667 ($200,000$200K) LW, RW RFA - 2	Pettersson, Elias $7,250,000$7,250,000 C, LW UFA - 3	Boeser, Brock $5,875,000$5,875,000 RW UFA - 1
Pearson, Tanner $3,250,000$3,250,000 LW NTC UFA - 3	Horvat, Bo $4,125,000$4,125,000 C UFA - 2	Foegele, Warren $2,750,000$2,750,000 LW, RW UFA - 3
DeBrusk, Jake $3,675,000$3,675,000 RW, LW UFA - 1	Miller, J.T. $5,250,000$5,250,000 C, LW, RW UFA - 2	Appleton, Mason $900,000$900,000 RW UFA - 1
Motte, Tyler $1,225,000$1,225,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Beagle, Jay $3,000,000$3,000,000 C M-NTC UFA - 1	Podkolzin, Vasily $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) RW, LW RFA - 3

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Hughes, Quinn $6,500,000$6,500,000 LD UFA - 6	Hamonic, Travis $2,500,000$2,500,000 RD UFA - 2	Demko, Thatcher $5,000,000$5,000,000 G UFA - 5
McCabe, Jake $1,100,000$1,100,000 LD/RD UFA - 4	Myers, Tyler $6,000,000$6,000,000 RD NTC UFA - 3	Holtby, Braden $2,000,000$2,000,000 G UFA - 1
Rathbone, Jack $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) LD UFA - 1	Merrill, Jon $1,000,000$1,000,000 LD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Highmore, Matthew $725,000$725,000 LW, RW UFA - 1		Ferland, Micheal $3,500,000$3,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 2
Dzingel, Ryan $850,000$850,000 LW, RW, C UFA - 1
Pysyk, Mark $1,000,000$1,000,000 RD UFA - 1

Jul. 5, 2021 at 9:02 p.m.

Zinger

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Canes accept in a heartbeat if Lind is interested in a 2-way deal.

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Jul. 5, 2021 at 9:08 p.m.

CMcAvoy73

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It would come down to whether OT not boston likes the way schmidt projects for the remainder of his contract. They probably don’t love it, but who knows. I really wanted them to go after him last season.

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Jul. 5, 2021 at 9:08 p.m.

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Quoting: Dzinger18

Canes accept in a heartbeat if Lind is interested in a 2-way deal.

Yeah I do feel in reflection that it may look like an overpayment, but I do see it as the type of move that gets done to acquire him.

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Jul. 5, 2021 at 9:08 p.m.

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There's no incentive for Winnipeg to do it. This way they lose Appleton and say Stanley and replace them with a 3rd and an AHL'er. The Jets are better off just letting Seattle take Appleton and lose one player instead of doing Vancouver a favour and losing two players.

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Jul. 5, 2021 at 9:11 p.m.

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Quoting: CMcAvoy73

Yeah that makes a lot of sense. I look at the Bruins defense, especially if they are losing one to Seattle, and think that they could look at him. I don't know what DeBrusk's value is, but it seems like there's a separation coming down the road and he fits the bill cap wise.

Jul. 5, 2021 at 9:13 p.m.

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Quoting: telmax

For sure. If you look at what schmidt has done the last two seasons compared to what debrusk has done over that stretch, schmidt definitely has the better on ice impact. That said, if he trends downward, which it looked like he kind of was this season (that could just be an off year based on a whole bunch of factors though), his four years becomes a little scary in the flat cap. At least with debrusk the team can walk away after another year. I think the flat cap era that could be really important, but it’s definitely a very interesting trade concept.

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Jul. 5, 2021 at 9:17 p.m.

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No thanks. Bad defense, bad contract, soft game. Exact opposite of the d man Boston actually needs.

Jul. 5, 2021 at 9:19 p.m.

hockeybadger

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Quoting: CMcAvoy73

Yeah that's the issue with this trade for sure. I feel Schmidt never got comfortable in VAN and the system he was in was very very much dysfunctional so moving him now makes no sense. It would be best to wait and see on him in a more "normal" season, but that could also make it worse. Lots of talk of him getting moved, so just wanted to get a feel on what people thought of him.

Jul. 5, 2021 at 9:21 p.m.

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Quoting: Gofnut999

No thanks. Bad defense, bad contract, soft game. Exact opposite of the d man Boston actually needs.

Apparently the Bruins are interested in him and were in on him last year. This year was definitely hard on his value, but I wouldn't call him soft at all.

Jul. 5, 2021 at 9:46 p.m.

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Quoting: telmax

Apparently the Bruins are interested in him and were in on him last year. This year was definitely hard on his value, but I wouldn't call him soft at all.

No they weren’t and have not heard a peep on him being of interest now.

15 hits total this year. From a full time d man. What would you call it? Clifton is 170 lbs and has more than that in a week.

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Jul. 5, 2021 at 10:02 p.m.

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Quoting: Gofnut999

I already know that whatever I say will be incorrect to you, so good day sir.

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Jul. 5, 2021 at 10:14 p.m.

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Quoting: telmax

I already know that whatever I say will be incorrect to you, so good day sir.

Because you are working off a false narrative.

The fact that Boston would not top a 3rd for Schmidt last year should tell you how little interest they had in him.

Boston is looking to upgrade it’s d corp. So in fans AGM minds, any d will do. And everyone available is of interest. Except that’s not true. And as I said, there has been nothing out of Bruins org showing any interest as of yet.

These are facts, not beliefs. Just as Schmidt’s d has declined significantly the last 2 years, that he does not play a physical game…at all, and has an undesirable contract.

You can believe what you want and live in a world of wishful thinking all you want. Does not change reality. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Jul. 5, 2021 at 11:48 p.m.

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Bruins fan here, we gracefully accept this trade.

Jul. 6, 2021 at 6:29 a.m.

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Quoting: Dzinger18

Canes accept in a heartbeat if Lind is interested in a 2-way deal.

requires waivers - will get claimed

Jul. 6, 2021 at 6:30 a.m.

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Quoting: Gofnut999

look whos talking.....

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Jul. 6, 2021 at 6:33 a.m.

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Lockwood, Lind, 2nd, 3rd and the Canucks future is over

Jul. 12, 2021 at 4:52 p.m.

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Quoting: yztnuK

Lockwood, Lind, 2nd, 3rd and the Canucks future is over

The Canucks future is already over if this is the straw that breaks the camels back.

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Jul. 13, 2021 at 6:18 a.m.

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Quoting: telmax

The Canucks future is already over if this is the straw that breaks the camels back.

exactly so you realize they cant trade what they do have for middle 6 players that 'might' be good because some reporter on a podcast said they are good.

Jul. 13, 2021 at 1:37 p.m.

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exactly so you realize they cant trade what they do have for middle 6 players that 'might' be good because some reporter on a podcast said they are good.

I'm gonna stop you right there, Lind isn't going to be a player for the Canucks, it's been disputed within that they didn't like what they saw and that his footspeed was lacking severely. If another team is interested and values him, you make that deal (if it makes sense of course). Lockwood isn't helping the team this year or next year and could be fragile will all the injuries he's already had. Those two players aren't the Canucks future.

The second and the third are more risky sure, but if those assets are used correctly, you can get some steals of players from other teams getting screwed by this expansion process. If it's not Foegele and Appleton, there are others that could be out there. A second and a third can also be the currency needed to move a bad contract off the books for next year. Players that come from those rounds are also very unlikely to be ready in one to two years so with this regime trying to be a cup contender by 2022-23, getting players who can play now is very important.

Jul. 13, 2021 at 4:34 p.m.

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Quoting: telmax

Lind as always projected to a 3rd line skilled guy and skating is an issue that can be taught and changed. He has corrected every issue at every level that has been said to him and excelled in 2nd full years each time.
Lockwood is the same.
Risk is everywhere and limiting Canuck prospects because why might happen is idiotic. Trading for Appleton and he could destroy his knee the next day. He could also never project higher then the 3rd line either.

For a time like the Canucks, Appleton and Foegele will not change what happens to them. But for a team that has no futures like you chimed in on, keep what you do have and the picks you do have is far more important than trading for 25/26 year olds that might be.

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