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HYPOTHETICAL If Marner signed the Rantanen contract

Created by: adamorimoli61
Team: 2021-22 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 6, 2021
Published: Jul. 6, 2021
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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Thanks Mitch.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,200,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$1,000,000
4$4,000,000
5$5,500,000
1$925,000
1$1,500,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Marner, Mitch
4$9,250,000
Trades
1.
TOR
ARI
  1. Marner, Mitchell
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IGNORE THIS TRADE - THIS IS ESSENTIALLY DELETING CURRENT MARNER TO REPLACE WITH THE CHEAPER ONE
2.
TOR
SEA
  1. Kerfoot, Alexander
Additional Details:
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3.
TOR
  1. Domi, Max ($2,300,000 retained)
4.
5.
TOR
  1. Järnkrok, Calle ($800,000 retained)
NSH
  1. Abruzzese, Nick [Reserve List]
  2. Vehvilainen, Veini [RFA Rights]
  3. 2023 3rd round pick (TOR)
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2021
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2022
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2023
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$76,406,783$0$400,000$5,093,217
Left WingCentreRight Wing
$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 6
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$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
UFA - 3
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$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
UFA - 3
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$796,667$796,667
LW, RW
RFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 4
Marner, Mitch
$9,250,000$9,250,000
Logo of the Nashville Predators
$200,000$200,000
RW, C, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Columbus Blue Jackets
-$975,000-$975,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
$1,500,000$1,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$725,000$725,000
C
UFA - 1
$925,000$925,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$750,000$750,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 1
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 3
$4,000,000$4,000,000
G
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,000,000$2,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,650,000$1,650,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$894,167$894,167
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,000,000$1,000,000
RD
UFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
RD
RFA - 1
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$900,000$900,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 2

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Jul. 6, 2021 at 1:27 a.m.
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But we are drafting Graeme's bro, we cant move him!
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Jul. 6, 2021 at 1:29 a.m.
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Say Marner is overpaid by a million dollars. Campbell is underpaid by the same amount so you're breakeven.
Jul. 6, 2021 at 1:32 a.m.
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Meh. This team isn't really any better than the current one is.
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Jul. 6, 2021 at 1:39 a.m.
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so basically if we got marner slightly cheaper we would've just overpaid a 30 year old blake coleman
Jul. 6, 2021 at 1:53 a.m.
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Quoting: Rangsey
Say Marner is overpaid by a million dollars. Campbell is underpaid by the same amount so you're breakeven.


Problem is him and matthews both got overpaid based on term they got
Jul. 6, 2021 at 2:04 a.m.
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Quoting: Theozler
Problem is him and matthews both got overpaid based on term they got


Oh well. I don’t agree about Matthews but even if I did it’s a drop in the bucket on 2 star players. Overpaying depth is what kills you.

Overpay marner by 1m and it’s 10% overpay Coleman by 1m and it’s 20%. When your bottom 6 is overpaid you run into serious trouble.
Jul. 6, 2021 at 3:24 a.m.
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Quoting: Lyle_Bubas
so basically if we got marner slightly cheaper we would've just overpaid a 30 year old blake coleman


Yes because overpaying your post season no shows has worked out so well. Coleman is a monster in the playoffs and that contract is fair
Jul. 6, 2021 at 4:26 a.m.
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Quoting: Theozler
Problem is him and matthews both got overpaid based on term they got


Matthews is not overpaid
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Jul. 6, 2021 at 4:34 a.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Yes because overpaying your post season no shows has worked out so well. Coleman is a monster in the playoffs and that contract is fair


Coleman is 0.5pts/game in the playoffs. Everyone loves him because he's effective and cheap, but once he isn't cheap anymore, the narrative will change. Same with Hyman.
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Jul. 6, 2021 at 6:54 a.m.
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Quoting: deys3232
Matthews is not overpaid


For not getting 8 years I think he is
Jul. 6, 2021 at 9:29 a.m.
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Quoting: DartGuy86
Coleman is 0.5pts/game in the playoffs. Everyone loves him because he's effective and cheap, but once he isn't cheap anymore, the narrative will change. Same with Hyman.


0.5 point with 0 powerplay time, everyone loves him because of the style he plays not the price, otherwise Gourde would also not be loved so much
Jul. 6, 2021 at 9:54 a.m.
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Quoting: Smitty426
But we are drafting Graeme's bro, we cant move him!


graeme > brandt wink
Jul. 6, 2021 at 9:57 a.m.
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Quoting: Lyle_Bubas
so basically if we got marner slightly cheaper we would've just overpaid a 30 year old blake coleman


Overpay a guy who DOESNT have a history with knee injuries, is better defensively and offensively than Hyman, turns it up in the playoffs, and is about a 55-60 point guy with limited PP time, ya i'll take it. Unfortunately that's how free agency works.
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Jul. 6, 2021 at 9:58 a.m.
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Anyone else getting serious Scott Darling vibes from Chris Driedger? I looked up some stats and it's eerily similary, buyer beware.
Jul. 6, 2021 at 9:58 a.m.
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Quoting: Rangsey
Say Marner is overpaid by a million dollars. Campbell is underpaid by the same amount so you're breakeven.


difference is, we didn't sign the campbell deal
Jul. 6, 2021 at 10:03 a.m.
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Anyone else getting serious Scott Darling vibes from Chris Driedger? I looked up some stats and it's eerily similary, buyer beware.


honestly i would be worried about paying him too but the Leafs NEED another goalie badly because i highly doubt Campbell is as good as he was this season. Driedger is the youngest one there so it made the most sense.

And if we're being honest - its pretty much impossible to predict a goalies future success for years to come. That being said, it is also up to the Leafs team defence to make Driedger look good (similar to what they did with Campbell, just to a lesser extent)
Jul. 6, 2021 at 10:06 a.m.
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Quoting: Lyle_Bubas
so basically if we got marner slightly cheaper we would've just overpaid a 30 year old blake coleman


Much much more flexibility. Doesn't have to necessarily look like this. I could see a world where we trade for Garland instead of Coleman, maybe we move Rielly and find a way to sign Hamilton, heck maybe we could go after Hall if he signs for near 7
Jul. 6, 2021 at 10:27 a.m.
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Quoting: adamorimoli61
honestly i would be worried about paying him too but the Leafs NEED another goalie badly because i highly doubt Campbell is as good as he was this season. Driedger is the youngest one there so it made the most sense.

And if we're being honest - its pretty much impossible to predict a goalies future success for years to come. That being said, it is also up to the Leafs team defence to make Driedger look good (similar to what they did with Campbell, just to a lesser extent)


Agreed there, I'm of the opinion that goaltending isn't even real, it's just a mirage haha.
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Jul. 6, 2021 at 10:47 a.m.
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Overpay a guy who DOESNT have a history with knee injuries, is better defensively and offensively than Hyman, turns it up in the playoffs, and is about a 55-60 point guy with limited PP time, ya i'll take it. Unfortunately that's how free agency works.


Coleman is a great pickup, but he's going to Dallas IMO
Jul. 6, 2021 at 10:02 p.m.
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Coleman is a great pickup, but he's going to Dallas IMO


If he comes to Dallas he REALLY wants to come to Dallas. We don’t have a lot of cap if Miro is looking for a big contract right now
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Jul. 7, 2021 at 4:22 p.m.
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Quoting: deys3232
Matthews is not overpaid


yes he is. For 5 seasons it's an insane overpay considering he hadn't accomplished anything before signing this contract, and it's only got worse, considering it's been 12 games that he's been bad in during the playoffs
Jul. 7, 2021 at 4:33 p.m.
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
yes he is. For 5 seasons it's an insane overpay considering he hadn't accomplished anything before signing this contract, and it's only got worse, considering it's been 12 games that he's been bad in during the playoffs


Best goal scorer in the league 🗿🗿
Just won a rocket
Was not as bad as people think he was in the playoffs. Mainly got unlucy
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Jul. 7, 2021 at 4:34 p.m.
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For not getting 8 years I think he is


I would rather have Matthews for 5 years than not have him at all
Jul. 7, 2021 at 4:35 p.m.
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His effort level in the playoffs has been very subpar for quite some time now, so no he wasn't «unlucky». Good teams/players create their own luck.

Edit: Idk why it didn't quote your response to my comment, I clicked on «quote»
Jul. 8, 2021 at 3:17 p.m.
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
yes he is. For 5 seasons it's an insane overpay considering he hadn't accomplished anything before signing this contract, and it's only got worse, considering it's been 12 games that he's been bad in during the playoffs


he quite literally has 11 points in his last 12 playoff games smile . But sure man, he's been bad. We'll go with that
 
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