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Second tier centers

Created by: Wildwinswhen
Team: 2021-22 Minnesota Wild
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 6, 2021
Published: Jul. 6, 2021
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Fiala accepts another bridge deal at 7M.

We go after second tier centers in Danault, Patrick, and Stasny while elevating Ek to the top line. The deals are relatively short term (1-3 years) to give space for Boldy and Rossi to come up.

Parise is on the team, but sitting in the Pross box.

Mennell makes a triumphant return from the KHL on a 1-yr deal.
Free Agent Signings
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1$850,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
4$7,500,000
3$7,000,000
2$1,200,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$2,000,000
2$750,000
2$3,500,000
2$3,500,000
Trades
1.
MIN
SEA
  1. Soucy, Carson
  2. 2021 2nd round pick (MIN)
Additional Details:
To protect Talbot/Kahkonen
2.
MIN
  1. Patrick, Nolan [RFA Rights]
  2. 2021 1st round pick (PHI)
3.
MIN
  1. 2021 4th round pick (SEA)
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2021
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2022
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2023
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$69,236,667$0$882,500$12,263,333
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$7,500,000$7,500,000
LW
UFA - 5
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
C
UFA - 8
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 3
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$1,700,000$1,700,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
$3,500,000$3,500,000
C
UFA - 6
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$2,100,000$2,100,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
$3,500,000$3,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$3,100,000$3,100,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
$1,200,000$1,200,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
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$725,000$725,000
C
UFA - 1
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$900,000$900,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$3,650,000$3,650,000
LD
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UFA - 4
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$7,575,000$7,575,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 6
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$3,666,667$3,666,667
G
UFA - 2
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 7
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$795,000$795,000 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
RD
RFA - 2
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$725,000$725,000
G
UFA - 1
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$850,000$850,000
D
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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LW
UFA - 1

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Jul. 6, 2021 at 12:13 p.m.
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That Danault contract is way off. Like add 2M and at least 2-3 years more on term. I mean just use Ek and RNH and recent comparables to get you in the ballpark.
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Jul. 6, 2021 at 12:16 p.m.
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Zero chance Danault signs that. I do think Wennberg could be had for that price and there is some definite upside with him.
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Jul. 6, 2021 at 12:17 p.m.
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If that's how much Fiala is asking for on a bridge deal that takes him to UFA, then wouldn't be a bad idea to see what kind of value for him could be found in a trade. Danault should rightfully ask for more money. Also, Buffalo only had to send Vegas a 6th for them to select Willam Carrier over Linus Ullmark.. A 2nd is too much to be sending to Seattle to keep Talbot or Kahkonen safe.
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Jul. 6, 2021 at 12:19 p.m.
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Quoting: drmantalban
That Danault contract is way off. Like add 2M and at least 2-3 years more on term. I mean just use Ek and RNH and recent comparables to get you in the ballpark.


Danault has had a great playoff season, but his regular season numbers are well below those comparables. I didn't want to overpay just based on his recent performance. It will be interesting to see where his contract ends up
Jul. 6, 2021 at 12:20 p.m.
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If that's how much Fiala is asking for on a bridge deal that takes him to UFA, then wouldn't be a bad idea to see what kind of value for him could be found in a trade. Danault should rightfully ask for more money. Also, Buffalo only had to send Vegas a 6th for them to select Willam Carrier over Linus Ullmark.. A 2nd is too much to be sending to Seattle to keep Talbot or Kahkonen safe.


I would expect that Fiala is asking for even more. He got 6M on his last 2 year bridge and he delivered. His goal scoring is streaky and he's a hot head, but I think his contract will be at least in this range.

I like your other points. Thanks! As I said above though, I'm waiting to see what Danualt will bring.
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Jul. 6, 2021 at 12:22 p.m.
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Quoting: drmantalban
That Danault contract is way off. Like add 2M and at least 2-3 years more on term. I mean just use Ek and RNH and recent comparables to get you in the ballpark.


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Zero chance Danault signs that. I do think Wennberg could be had for that price and there is some definite upside with him.


I thought I'd take more heat for the Stasny signing. smile
Jul. 6, 2021 at 12:23 p.m.
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I would expect that Fiala is asking for even more. He got 6M on his last 2 year bridge and he delivered. His goal scoring is streaky and he's a hot head, but I think his contract will be at least in this range.

I like your other points. Thanks! As I said above though, I'm waiting to see what Danualt will bring.


Wild should 100% trade him if he’s asking over 7. We can barely afford to pay him 6 and there is a good chance his best years will be past when the next core is starting to kick off. It would suck to move him but his value will never be higher.
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Jul. 6, 2021 at 12:24 p.m.
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I thought I'd take more heat for the Stasny signing. smile


Love Statsny as a short term option. 3.5 might be a tad much for my liking but he’d be a good pickup.
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Jul. 6, 2021 at 12:25 p.m.
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I would expect that Fiala is asking for even more. He got 6M on his last 2 year bridge and he delivered. His goal scoring is streaky and he's a hot head, but I think his contract will be at least in this range.

I like your other points. Thanks! As I said above though, I'm waiting to see what Danualt will bring.


Seems fair for longer term, but he'll be 27 and could walk after a 3-year bridge deal. I'd rather dangle another 2 year (maybe like $5.5M) and see if he can keep it up again, but I'm not sure he'd take that. At $7M, I'd like to see at least 6 years. Guerin seems to like giving out $42 million contracts since that's what he's given to Brodin and JEE now lol
Jul. 6, 2021 at 12:27 p.m.
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Quoting: FloppyBiscuit
If that's how much Fiala is asking for on a bridge deal that takes him to UFA, then wouldn't be a bad idea to see what kind of value for him could be found in a trade. Danault should rightfully ask for more money. Also, Buffalo only had to send Vegas a 6th for them to select Willam Carrier over Linus Ullmark.. A 2nd is too much to be sending to Seattle to keep Talbot or Kahkonen safe.


As far as value for Fiala, I proposed Boqvist, 2021 NYI 1st, and 2022 NJD lottery protected 1st. It also wouldn’t be crazy to ask for Mercer over Boqvist.

(This is a deal with NJD)
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Jul. 6, 2021 at 12:32 p.m.
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Quoting: FloppyBiscuit
Seems fair for longer term, but he'll be 27 and could walk after a 3-year bridge deal. I'd rather dangle another 2 year (maybe like $5.5M) and see if he can keep it up again, but I'm not sure he'd take that. At $7M, I'd like to see at least 6 years. Guerin seems to like giving out $42 million contracts since that's what he's given to Brodin and JEE now lol


Haha smile If we could get him for 7x6yrs I'd do it. But I think Fiala sees himself as a 10M player, so I don't think he'd ever sign that contract. He wants to get that next tier contract and may already be asking for 8M.
Jul. 6, 2021 at 12:44 p.m.
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Wild should 100% trade him if he’s asking over 7. We can barely afford to pay him 6 and there is a good chance his best years will be past when the next core is starting to kick off. It would suck to move him but his value will never be higher.


Curious on what your appetite would be on trading Fiala for futures? I ask because I agree with what youre saying, I just don’t see the right return out there this summer. Like would you consider moving him for, say, Lundell+...? Someone that aligns with the Boldy/Rossi prime.
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Jul. 6, 2021 at 12:46 p.m.
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I thought I'd take more heat for the Stasny signing. smile


Haha I don’t mind the Stasny signing! I think you could maybe get him for cheaper, but not gonna split hairs on that. PS could be a decent band aid pickup.
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Jul. 6, 2021 at 12:48 p.m.
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Curious on what your appetite would be on trading Fiala for futures? I ask because I agree with what youre saying, I just don’t see the right return out there this summer. Like would you consider moving him for, say, Lundell+...? Someone that aligns with the Boldy/Rossi prime.


This is precisely what I would move for. NJD has cap and needs weapons. A 1st or 2 and Mercer would be a lights out return.

There are going to be enough stop gap wings that can score 50 for a reasonable cap hit.
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Jul. 6, 2021 at 12:56 p.m.
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This is precisely what I would move for. NJD has cap and needs weapons. A 1st or 2 and Mercer would be a lights out return.

There are going to be enough stop gap wings that can score 50 for a reasonable cap hit.


Hell, Boldy could do that next year if he starts in the NHL
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Jul. 6, 2021 at 1:04 p.m.
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This is precisely what I would move for. NJD has cap and needs weapons. A 1st or 2 and Mercer would be a lights out return.

There are going to be enough stop gap wings that can score 50 for a reasonable cap hit.


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Hell, Boldy could do that next year if he starts in the NHL


Yeah it’s an interesting idea, and there definitely are some teams with good prospect pools that would love to add Fiala.
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Jul. 6, 2021 at 1:11 p.m.
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Yeah it’s an interesting idea, and there definitely are some teams with good prospect pools that would love to add Fiala.


NJD is ready to turn the corner and has the prospects (and is in a different conference) or LAK/ANA seem to be looking to make moves.
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Jul. 6, 2021 at 1:15 p.m.
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This is precisely what I would move for. NJD has cap and needs weapons. A 1st or 2 and Mercer would be a lights out return.

There are going to be enough stop gap wings that can score 50 for a reasonable cap hit.


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Hell, Boldy could do that next year if he starts in the NHL


I don't think you guys truly have any idea what Fiala can do compared to other "50 point wingers". For one thing, he's paced for almost 70 points per 82 the last two years. And if you think Boldy is ever going to be able to drive play the way Fiala does, you're going to be very disappointed. There are not a lot of wingers capable of what Fiala is. When you're talking about replacing him with a guy like Drouin (brought up in another thread) or other similar players, it reeks of ignorance.
Jul. 6, 2021 at 1:17 p.m.
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NJD is ready to turn the corner and has the prospects (and is in a different conference) or LAK/ANA seem to be looking to make moves.


Yeah you also have to wonder if Canes and/or Panthers are looking to take the next step. Jarvis/Suzuki or Denisenko/Lundell are all intriguing for me, too. A lot of new doors open up if you start looking at prospects instead of Fiala for a NHL ready top C.
Jul. 6, 2021 at 1:20 p.m.
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I don't think you guys truly have any idea what Fiala can do compared to other "50 point wingers". For one thing, he's paced for almost 70 points per 82 the last two years. And if you think Boldy is ever going to be able to drive play the way Fiala does, you're going to be very disappointed. There are not a lot of wingers capable of what Fiala is. When you're talking about replacing him with a guy like Drouin (brought up in another thread) or other similar players, it reeks of ignorance.


You’re absolutely right you can’t replace Fiala. Would/could you pay him over 7 with term? This is the question, not whether we want to move him or not. Any team would be better with Fiala on it in a vacuum. It’s about being able to fill in around him that’s the issue.
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Jul. 6, 2021 at 1:22 p.m.
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Yeah you also have to wonder if Canes and/or Panthers are looking to take the next step. Jarvis/Suzuki or Denisenko/Lundell are all intriguing for me, too. A lot of new doors open up if you start looking at prospects instead of Fiala for a NHL ready top C.


Fiala doesn’t make sense to the Canes given their current lineup, and Waddel won’t pay him what he wants.
Jul. 6, 2021 at 1:24 p.m.
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Fiala doesn’t make sense to the Canes given their current lineup, and Waddel won’t pay him what he wants.


Yeah no clue on their owners willingness. But why wouldn’t he make sense? They don’t have an obvious LW to play with Aho and Turbo.

Or on the 2nd with Trochek and Necas.
Jul. 6, 2021 at 1:27 p.m.
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You’re absolutely right you can’t replace Fiala. Would/could you pay him over 7 with term? This is the question, not whether we want to move him or not. Any team would be better with Fiala on it in a vacuum. It’s about being able to fill in around him that’s the issue.


Paying Fiala 7 long term is not a problem. If you trade Fiala for a bunch of lesser pieces, you're going to spend a long time wishing you had another line driver like Fiala to make things easier. The pieces you're talking about are complementary guys. What's the point of stockpiling complementary guys if there's no Fiala/Kaprizov to complement? You're just going to have another Fletcher era type team where you're relying on depth and a bunch of middling players to provide the scoring. How did that work out? How many of those years did we think "if only we had a star player to ease the burden off these guys"?
Jul. 6, 2021 at 1:27 p.m.
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Yeah no clue on their owners willingness. But why wouldn’t he make sense? They don’t have an obvious LW to play with Aho and Turbo.

Or on the 2nd with Trochek and Necas.


I raise you Svechnikov. Who *is* better than Fiala.
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Jul. 6, 2021 at 1:28 p.m.
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I raise you Svechnikov. Who *is* better than Fiala.


Lol I forgot bout Svech. Fair enough, no on the canes. Larger point remains, though, there would be options if the price is right.
 
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