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Tkachuk

Created by: Pensfan60
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 6, 2021
Published: Jul. 6, 2021
Team: 2021-22 Pittsburgh Penguins
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Blueger, Teddy4$2,000,000
Zohorna, Radim2$875,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Coleman, Blake4$4,000,000
Hakanpää, Jani2$1,600,000
Perry, Corey1$750,000
Mrázek, Petr2$3,000,000
Trades
1.
PIT
  1. Tkachuk, Matthew
CGY
  1. Guentzel, Jake
  2. Légaré, Nathan
  3. 2022 1st round pick (PIT)
2.
PIT
    SEA
    1. Aston-Reese, Zach [RFA Rights]
    3.
    PIT
    1. 2021 3rd round pick (ANA)
    Any team
    ANA
    1. Zucker, Jason
    4.
    PIT
    1. 2021 5th round pick (WPG)
    2. 2022 5th round pick (WPG)
    WPG
    1. Pettersson, Marcus
    5.
    PIT
    1. 2021 6th round pick (WSH)
    Any team
    WSH
    1. Friedman, Mark
    6.
    PIT
    1. 2022 3rd round pick (ARI)
    Any team
    ARI
    1. DeSmith, Casey
    Buyouts
    • Jack Johnson: $1,166,667
    Buried
    • Juuso Riikola: $25,000 ($1,150,000)
    DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
    2021
    PIT
    ANA
    PIT
    WPG
    WSH
    PIT
    WSH
    ANA
    2022
    PIT
    ARI
    PIT
    PIT
    WPG
    PIT
    PIT
    2023
    PIT
    PIT
    PIT
    PIT
    PIT
    PIT
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
    22$81,500,000$80,994,697$0$212,500$505,303
    Left WingCenterRight Wing
    CGY
    Tkachuk, Matthew
    $7,000,000
    LW, RW
    RFA - 1
    PIT
    Crosby, Sidney
    $8,700,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    PIT
    Rust, Bryan
    $3,500,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 1
    PIT
    McCann, Jared
    $2,940,000
    LW, C
    RFA - 1
    PIT
    Malkin, Evgeni
    $9,500,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 1
    PIT
    Kapanen, Kasperi
    $3,200,000
    RW
    RFA - 1
    Coleman, Blake
    $4,000,000
    LW, RW
    NTC
    UFA - 6
    PIT
    Carter, Jeff
    $2,636,364
    C, RW
    UFA - 1
    PIT
    Poulin, Samuel
    $863,333
    LW, RW
    RFA - 3
    PIT
    Tanev, Brandon
    $3,500,000
    RW, LW
    NTC
    UFA - 4
    PIT
    Blueger, Teddy
    $2,000,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 2
    Perry, Corey
    $750,000
    RW
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    PIT
    Dumoulin, Brian
    $4,100,000
    LD
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    PIT
    Letang, Kris
    $7,250,000
    RD
    NMC NTC
    UFA - 1
    Mrázek, Petr
    $3,000,000
    G
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    PIT
    Joseph, Pierre-Olivier
    $863,333
    LD
    RFA - 1
    PIT
    Marino, John
    $4,400,000
    RD
    UFA - 6
    PIT
    Jarry, Tristan
    $3,500,000
    G
    UFA - 2
    PIT
    Matheson, Michael
    $4,875,000
    LD
    NTC
    UFA - 5
    Hakanpää, Jani
    $1,600,000
    RD
    UFA - 3
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    PIT
    Ruhwedel, Chad
    $750,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
    PIT
    Zohorna, Radim
    $875,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 2

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    Jul. 6, 2021 at 8:45 p.m.
    #1
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    Isn't available. He doesn't want out so we aren't trading him
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    Jul. 6, 2021 at 8:47 p.m.
    #2
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    Love both Tkachuks but thats a lot
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    Jul. 6, 2021 at 8:48 p.m.
    #3
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    Cody ceci stan
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    Yeah I honestly wouldn’t do it but i think that’s what it would take to get him
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    Jul. 6, 2021 at 8:49 p.m.
    #4
    Hockey Super Genius
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    Broshakes head
    Jul. 6, 2021 at 8:49 p.m.
    #5
    Thread Starter
    Cody ceci stan
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    Quoting: ChampEddy
    Love both Tkachuks but thats a lot


    Quoting: ChampEddy
    Love both Tkachuks but thats a lot

    Yeah I honestly wouldn’t do it but i think that’s what it would take to get him
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    Jul. 6, 2021 at 8:54 p.m.
    #6
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    Wait till Calgary fans get on his thread!! Lol.

    I did ACGM’s with Guentzel, Poulin and 2022 1st round pick for Tkuchuk and they hated that return.

    I even did Guentzel, Poulin, Marino, and a 2022 1st round pick for Tkuchuk and Tanev and they hated it!! Lol.

    And Tkuchuk is due a 9M offer sheet this upcoming offseason.

    Guentzel, Poulin and a 1st round pick for a player not even signed long term. Ya, that would do it.

    Him being a RFA has value but not as much as a long term deal.
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    Jul. 6, 2021 at 8:55 p.m.
    #7
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    Quoting: Gmonwy
    Isn't available. He doesn't want out so we aren't trading him



    “We” arnt trading him..Dude must be apart of the team!!
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    Jul. 6, 2021 at 9:01 p.m.
    #8
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    Quoting: LetsGoPens69
    “We” arnt trading him..Dude must be apart of the team!!


    Oh he's just the decider of everything here

    The czar of cap friendly

    Or something 🙃
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    Jul. 6, 2021 at 9:03 p.m.
    #9
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    Quoting: Radu47
    Oh he's just the decider of everything here

    The czar of cap friendly

    Or something 🙃


    People get their feelings so hurt about another fans “idea”.

    “He doenst want out” too. Must have talked to Tkuchuk.
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    Jul. 6, 2021 at 9:04 p.m.
    #10
    Vegan Commie Hipster
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    Everyone focused on Tkachuk but me... I'm too much of a 😎 hipster 😎 for that so I'll critique the Friedman deal: he seems more of a 'future considerations' guy
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    Jul. 6, 2021 at 9:17 p.m.
    #11
    CGY
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    The Flames are likely a year away from trading Tkachuk.

    If they do trade him, it's because the 21/22 season went poorly and the team is likely looking for a new GM.

    If that happens, the Flames will likely be rebuilding and as good as Guentzal is, I don't know that he;d fit with the trajectory of the Flames. They'd likely be looking for picks and prospects
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    Jul. 6, 2021 at 9:34 p.m.
    #12
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    Quoting: LetsGoPens69
    Wait till Calgary fans get on his thread!! Lol.

    I did ACGM’s with Guentzel, Poulin and 2022 1st round pick for Tkuchuk and they hated that return.

    I even did Guentzel, Poulin, Marino, and a 2022 1st round pick for Tkuchuk and Tanev and they hated it!! Lol.

    And Tkuchuk is due a 9M offer sheet this upcoming offseason.

    Guentzel, Poulin and a 1st round pick for a player not even signed long term. Ya, that would do it.

    Him being a RFA has value but not as much as a long term deal.


    Unless you deleted those threads you never made those offers.

    As for the trade posted here, no logic for either team. Flames simply have no reason to move Tkachuk for anything but a legitimate 1C (in their prime), whereas Pittsburgh has arguably the worst prospect pool in the league and should not be gutting it for a mostly irrelevant upgrade to Crosby's winger
    Jul. 6, 2021 at 9:35 p.m.
    #13
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    Flames very very very easily decline that garbage trade
    Jul. 6, 2021 at 9:47 p.m.
    #14
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    Edited Jul. 6, 2021 at 10:39 p.m.
    Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
    Unless you deleted those threads you never made those offers.

    As for the trade posted here, no logic for either team. Flames simply have no reason to move Tkachuk for anything but a legitimate 1C (in their prime), whereas Pittsburgh has arguably the worst prospect pool in the league and should not be gutting it for a mostly irrelevant upgrade to Crosby's winger


    Very similar trades. I had Thachuk for Guentzel, Poulin, Tanev, and a 1st. Which is even more..lol.


    Edited ***sorry it was a 2nd.
    Jul. 6, 2021 at 9:48 p.m.
    #15
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    Quoting: LetsGoPens69
    Very similar trades. I had Thachuk for Guentzel, Poulin, Tanev, and a 1st. Which is even more..lol.


    I looked and couldn't find that
    Jul. 6, 2021 at 10:11 p.m.
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    Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
    I looked and couldn't find that


    https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/464946


    IMO, if Pens can get Tkachuk for Guentzel, Poulin and a 1st. They should do it.

    Take it from a pens fan, the only time u miss draft picks is around draft time..lol.

    Teams that are in the SC hunt and competitive every year, don’t have prospect development as a top priority. Although it is important. But, u only have a certain window to go for it.

    Once it closes, the franchise just has to tank right. Trade off every asset on the team. And get 3-4 years of top 3-5 picks. The franchise is back.

    The system should be one of the tops In the league if u do it right. Gets picks/prospects for all your assets. And top picks in 3-5 consecutive years. 3-5 top 5 picks and 3-5 high 2nd picks. And the late 1st, etc, you get for your tradable assets. Just like the LA kings did.

    But u just can’t have a top 3 pick and then next season barley miss the play-off or have a .500 record and Draft in those 8-16 spots.

    That’s where all the busts and mistakes are made. You want to stay out of there. It’s not a good place to be. Either in the play-offs, or tank, thats what fans should be hoping for now.
    .
    You can’t fall in love with draft picks and prospects when u have a play-off team and a window. You have to go all-in. And worry about the rest as it comes.

    I think the Sens fans now are so enamored with their prospects and the draft. That they like the draft process and prospects more than winning and winning a SC..lol.

    Sens should be trading Stuetzle and this 10 overall
    Pick along with M.Murray for Eichel. A top, elite C and their rebuild is over. They could start competing this season.

    B.Tkachuk/Eichel/Batherson
    C.Brown/J.Norris/Dadonov
    Formenton/C.Tierney/C.White
    N.Paul/Pinto/Watson

    Chabot/Zaitsev
    Sanderson/Zub
    Brannstrom/J.Brown

    *And still a ton of cap space.

    That’s a competitive team for the next 4-8 seasons. They can stop their rebuild right now with 1 trade. You do it!!
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    Jul. 6, 2021 at 10:26 p.m.
    #17
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    Quoting: LetsGoPens69
    https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/464946


    IMO, if Pens can get Tkachuk for Guentzel, Poulin and a 1st. They should do it.

    Take it from a pens fan, the only time u miss draft picks is around draft time..lol.

    Teams that are in the SC hunt and competitive every year, don’t have prospect development as a top priority. Although it is important. But, u only have a certain window to go for it.

    Once it closes, the franchise just has to tank right. Trade off every asset on the team. And get 3-4 years of top 3-5 picks. The franchise is back.

    The system should be one of the tops In the league if u do it right. Gets picks/prospects for all your assets. And top picks in 3-5 consecutive years. 3-5 top 5 picks and 3-5 high 2nd picks. And the late 1st, etc, you get for your tradable assets. Just like the LA kings did.

    But u just can’t have a top 3 pick and then next season barley miss the play-off or have a .500 record and Draft in those 8-16 spots.

    That’s where all the busts and mistakes are made. You want to stay out of there. It’s not a good place to be. Either in the play-offs, or tank, thats what fans should be hoping for now.
    .
    You can’t fall in love with draft picks and prospects when u have a play-off team and a window. You have to go all-in. And worry about the rest as it comes.

    I think the Sens fans now are so enamored with their prospects and the draft. That they like the draft process and prospects more than winning and winning a SC..lol.

    Sens should be trading Stuetzle and this 10 overall
    Pick along with M.Murray for Eichel. A top, elite C and their rebuild is over. They could start competing this season.

    B.Tkachuk/Eichel/Batherson
    C.Brown/J.Norris/Dadonov
    Formenton/C.Tierney/C.White
    N.Paul/Pinto/Watson

    Chabot/Zaitsev
    Sanderson/Zub
    Brannstrom/J.Brown

    *And still a ton of cap space.

    That’s a competitive team for the next 4-8 seasons. They can stop their rebuild right now with 1 trade. You do it!!


    BTW that trade had a 2nd, not a 1st
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    Jul. 6, 2021 at 10:38 p.m.
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    Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
    BTW that trade had a 2nd, not a 1st


    Ya, I edited my previous post saying it was a 2nd and not a 1st. U probably didn’t see it after it was edited. Sorry.

    Comment #14.
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    Jul. 7, 2021 at 9:30 a.m.
    #19
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    Cody ceci stan
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    Quoting: flamesfan
    Flames very very very easily decline that garbage trade


    Quoting: flamesfan
    Flames very very very easily decline that garbage trade
    lol a above ppg 40 goal scorer, a solid prospect and a first is a garbage trade. Sure they might not acdept it but that isnt gabage

    Quoting: flamesfan
    Flames very very very easily decline that garbage trade
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    Jul. 7, 2021 at 10:40 a.m.
    #20
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    Quoting: LetsGoPens69
    “We” arnt trading him..Dude must be apart of the team!!


    How lucky we are to have a member of an actual NHL organization here on this site to let us what the teams will be doing! Makes everything simpler. ✔
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