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tarasenko

Created by: nyr2022
Initial Creation Date: Jul 8, 2021
Published: Jul 8 at 4:20
Team: 2021-22 New York Islanders
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Pelech, Adam6$5,750,000
Beauvillier, Anthony4$4,250,000
Sorokin, Ilya3$3,500,000
Dal Colle, Michael1$850,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Cizikas, Casey5$2,500,000
Palmieri, Kyle3$3,000,000
Raanta, Antti1$1,000,000
Trades
NYI
    SEA
    1. Eberle, Jordan
    NYI
    1. Tarasenko, Vladimir ($3,000,000 retained)
    2. 2022 2nd round pick (STL)
    STL
    1. Wahlstrom, Oliver
    2. Bolduc, Samuel
    3. Ladd, Andrew
    NYI
    1. 2021 7th round pick (OTT)
    OTT
    1. Clutterbuck, Cal
    2. Varlamov, Semyon
    3. 2022 2nd round pick (NYI)
    4. 2022 2nd round pick (STL)
    NYI
    1. 2022 7th round pick (DET)
    DET
    1. Komarov, Leo
    2. 2021 2nd round pick (COL)
    Buyouts
    • Rick DiPietro: $0
    Buried
    • Thomas Hickey: $1,375,000 ($2,500,000)
    DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
    2021
    NYI
    NYI
    NYI
    NYI
    NYI
    OTT
    2022
    NYI
    COL
    NYI
    NYI
    NYI
    DET
    2023
    NYI
    NYI
    NYI
    NYI
    NYI
    NYI
    NYI
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
    22$81,500,000$81,748,354$1,365,854$537,500-$248,354
    Left WingCenterRight Wing
    NYI
    Lee, Anders
    $7,000,000
    LW, C
    NTC
    UFA - 5
    NYI
    Barzal, Mathew
    $7,000,000
    C
    RFA - 2
    STL
    Tarasenko, Vladimir
    $4,500,000
    RW
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    NYI
    Beauvillier, Anthony
    $4,250,000
    LW
    UFA - 3
    NYI
    Nelson, Brock
    $6,000,000
    C, LW
    NTC
    UFA - 4
    NYI
    Bailey, Josh
    $5,000,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 3
    NYI
    Palmieri, Kyle
    $3,000,000
    RW, LW
    NTC
    UFA - 4
    NYI
    Pageau, Jean-Gabriel
    $5,000,000
    C
    NTC
    UFA - 5
    NYI
    Holmström, Simon
    $863,333
    RW
    RFA - 3
    NYI
    Johnston, Ross
    $1,000,000
    LW
    UFA - 1
    NYI
    Cizikas, Casey
    $2,500,000
    C
    UFA - 6
    NYI
    Martin, Matt
    $1,500,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 3
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    NYI
    Pelech, Adam
    $5,750,000
    LD
    UFA - 8
    NYI
    Pulock, Ryan
    $5,000,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
    NYI
    Sorokin, Ilya
    $3,500,000
    G
    UFA - 3
    NYI
    Leddy, Nick
    $5,500,000
    LD
    UFA - 1
    NYI
    Mayfield, Scott
    $1,450,000
    RD
    UFA - 2
    Raanta, Antti
    $1,000,000
    G
    UFA - 2
    NYI
    Aho, Sebastian
    $725,000
    LD
    RFA - 1
    NYI
    Dobson, Noah
    $894,167
    RD
    RFA - 1
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    NYI
    Dal Colle, Michael
    $850,000
    LW
    UFA
    NYI
    Boychuk, Johnny
    $6,000,000
    RD
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    NYI
    Vande Sompel, Mitch
    $725,000
    LD
    RFA - 1

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    Jul 8 at 4:22
    #1
    Xercuses
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    blues accept but wont retain
    Jul 8 at 4:24
    #2
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    Quoting: xercuses
    blues accept but wont retain


    its an extreme overpay if you dont retain
    Jul 8 at 4:26
    #3
    Xercuses
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    well they are adding the second as well so not really
    Jul 8 at 4:32
    #4
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    Quoting: xercuses
    well they are adding the second as well so not really


    the second is primarily to eat the ladd contract, isles dont do wahlstrom and bolduc for vlad straight up so you gotta eat some cap. not like the blues cant afford it esp with what theyre getting back. in 2 years you can bridge wahlstrom and essentially be paying the same cause tarasenko will come off the books
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    Jul 8 at 4:32
    #5
    Nightowl26
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    Islanders laugh at the trade with St. Louis. No way we do that trade

    Also, the Ottawa trade is horrible too. No way we do that.
    Jul 8 at 4:33
    #6
    Xercuses
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    Quoting: nyr2022
    the second is primarily to eat the ladd contract, isles dont do wahlstrom and bolduc for vlad straight up so you gotta eat some cap. not like the blues cant afford it esp with what theyre getting back. in 2 years you can bridge wahlstrom and essentially be paying the same cause tarasenko will come off the books


    far i thought wally only had 1 year left
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    Jul 8 at 4:34
    #7
    Thread Starter
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    Quoting: Nightowl26
    Islanders laugh at the trade with St. Louis. No way we do that trade

    Also, the Ottawa trade is horrible too. No way we do that.


    1) you think tarasenko at 4.5 will come cheap?

    2) ok good luck with the cap lmao i guess you could pull a tampa
    Jul 8 at 4:36
    #8
    Nightowl26
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    Quoting: nyr2022
    1) you think tarasenko at 4.5 will come cheap?

    2) ok good luck with the cap lmao i guess you could pull a tampa


    I want no part of Tarasenko and his high salary and bad shoulder.
    Hey if they can do it, why can't we. No seriously, we can off load salary more affectively than that try easily.
    Jul 8 at 4:38
    #9
    Isles7
    Joined: Jun 2019
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    Lol wahlstrom is pretty much untouchable and they’re not trading him for damaged goods.
    Jul 8 at 4:41
    #10
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    Quoting: Nightowl26
    I want no part of Tarasenko and his high salary and bad shoulder.
    Hey if they can do it, why can't we. No seriously, we can off load salary more affectively than that try easily.


    2 seconds for taking 8.5 off your books is a good deal for the isles if you ask me

    out of curiosity, whos gonna sit? Lee? he aint no kuch. isles are built very different from the lightning, i wouldnt have confidence in for sure making the playoffs with any key difference maker missing the whole year
    Jul 8 at 4:43
    #11
    Nightowl26
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    Quoting: nyr2022
    2 seconds for taking 8.5 off your books is a good deal for the isles if you ask me

    out of curiosity, whos gonna sit? Lee? he aint no kuch. isles are built very different from the lightning, i wouldnt have confidence in for sure making the playoffs with any key difference maker missing the whole year


    Wahlstrom isn't getting traded end of story. Not for damaged goods
    Jul 8 at 4:43
    #12
    Isles7
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    Quoting: nyr2022
    1) you think tarasenko at 4.5 will come cheap?

    2) ok good luck with the cap lmao i guess you could pull a tampa


    Quoting: nyr2022
    2 seconds for taking 8.5 off your books is a good deal for the isles if you ask me

    out of curiosity, whos gonna sit? Lee? he aint no kuch. isles are built very different from the lightning, i wouldnt have confidence in for sure making the playoffs with any key difference maker missing the whole year


    No one needs to sit. The isles have multiple players they can trade to free up cap space. Leddy, Eberle, Varlamov..they’re not trading Barzal’s future winger to dump salary and add a washed up Tarasenko
    Jul 8 at 5:03
    #13
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    Quoting: Nightowl26
    Wahlstrom isn't getting traded end of story. Not for damaged goods


    Quoting: Isles777
    No one needs to sit. The isles have multiple players they can trade to free up cap space. Leddy, Eberle, Varlamov..they’re not trading Barzal’s future winger to dump salary and add a washed up Tarasenko


    im not saying the isles should do this, im saying this is what it should take to get the blues to retain on vlad. i wouldnt want him either
    Jul 8 at 5:16
    #14
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    Quoting: nyr2022
    its an extreme overpay if you dont retain


    Hey buddy heres a little secret, dont tell anyone. Its an extreme overpay even with the retention shhhh🤫🤫.
    Jul 8 at 5:21
    #15
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    Quoting: nyr2022
    1) you think tarasenko at 4.5 will come cheap?

    2) ok good luck with the cap lmao i guess you could pull a tampa


    1st of all yes vladdy will come cheap as according to sources, theyve been trying to offload him for a long time and no ones interested, and now he went public with his trade request. So in answer to your question, yes he will come cheap.
    As for point 2, clutter probably has positive value, but its somewhere around neutral. Varly has positive value, a whole bunch of it, so that trade is a disaster, maybe worse than the blues trade which is terrible.
    Jul 8 at 5:24
    #16
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    Quoting: Islesforthecup
    1st of all yes vladdy will come cheap as according to sources, theyve been trying to offload him for a long time and no ones interested, and now he went public with his trade request. So in answer to your question, yes he will come cheap.
    As for point 2, clutter probably has positive value, but its somewhere around neutral. Varly has positive value, a whole bunch of it, so that trade is a disaster, maybe worse than the blues trade which is terrible.


    leaving a key part of the framing out lmao theres that li intellect
    Jul 8 at 5:34
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    Quoting: nyr2022
    leaving a key part of the framing out lmao theres that li intellect


    Not sure what youre trying to say as theres no substance in this post. Why dont you try to explain yourself.
    Jul 8 at 5:36
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    @nyr2022 i relooked at your team, you dont have boychuk on ltir so thats another 6 million to use.
    Jul 8 at 5:54
    #19
    ALjet12
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    If the Isles trade Wahlstrom there should be a coup.
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    Jul 8 at 7:00
    #20
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    Wahlstrom was on pace to score around 24 goals as a 21 year old rookie this season. Playing almost exclusively on the 3rd line with very limited PP time.
    Jul 8 at 7:13
    #21
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    Quoting: Islesforthecup
    Not sure what youre trying to say as theres no substance in this post. Why dont you try to explain yourself.


    oof, proving the point even further. you're paying them to retain as well, because isles cant do the deal otherwise. so no, he wont come cheap cause youll have to outbid a team thats not asking stl to retain. lordy

    Quoting: Islesforthecup
    @nyr2022 i relooked at your team, you dont have boychuk on ltir so thats another 6 million to use.


    ok so keep varly, your assertion that a 33 yr old clutterbuck who had 11 in 50 this year carrying a 3.5 mil cap hit has positive value, esp when a cash strapped team holds his rights, is just wrong
    Jul 8 at 7:20
    #22
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    Quoting: nyr2022
    oof, proving the point even further. you're paying them to retain as well, because isles cant do the deal otherwise. so no, he wont come cheap cause youll have to outbid a team thats not asking stl to retain. lordy



    ok so keep varly, your assertion that a 33 yr old clutterbuck who had 11 in 50 this year carrying a 3.5 mil cap hit has positive value, esp when a cash strapped team holds his rights, is just wrong


    Your notion that points decides a players value is just foolish.
    Jul 9 at 12:06
    #23
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    Quoting: Islesforthecup
    Your notion that points decides a players value is just foolish.


    lol ok
    Jul 9 at 3:46
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    Quoting: nyr2022
    lol ok


    just look at his linemate, how much will cizikas get in FA this year? how many points did he have? theres your answer.
     
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