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Lets get Bertuzzi

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Team: 2021-22 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 9, 2021
Published: Jul. 9, 2021
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Jul. 9, 2021 at 12:29 p.m.
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I don't hate it for Detroit, though there is no way Bertuzzi would sign for that little at that term. That cap hit would be a 2-3 year bridge.
Jul. 9, 2021 at 12:29 p.m.
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Solid trade for Bertuzzi but personally I'd rather move Robertson over Amirov

David Savard isn't better than Holl at this point in his career and definitely isn't worth $2M more

Way too much for Vanecek as well

You dont need to trade Rielly if you just keep Holl and don't sign Oleksiak which would make this team much better even if Rielly ends up walking
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Jul. 9, 2021 at 12:30 p.m.
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Quoting: Seider53
I don't hate it for Detroit, though there is no way Bertuzzi would sign for that little at that term. That cap hit would be a 2-3 year bridge.


He's 26, he'd get more for less term (see Taylor Halls last deal) vs a lower cap hit over long term (see RNH)
Jul. 9, 2021 at 12:32 p.m.
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Quoting: Terry_AkiSauce
Solid trade for Bertuzzi but personally I'd rather move Robertson over Amirov

David Savard isn't better than Holl at this point in his career and definitely isn't worth $2M more

Way too much for Vanecek as well

You dont need to trade Rielly if you just keep Holl and don't sign Oleksiak which would make this team much better even if Rielly ends up walking


I agree with everything but the David Savard point. I would rather have a playoff performing defensemen over Holl. He is a right handed Jake Muzzin
Jul. 9, 2021 at 12:33 p.m.
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Quoting: Terry_AkiSauce
Solid trade for Bertuzzi but personally I'd rather move Robertson over Amirov

David Savard isn't better than Holl at this point in his career and definitely isn't worth $2M more

Way too much for Vanecek as well

You dont need to trade Rielly if you just keep Holl and don't sign Oleksiak which would make this team much better even if Rielly ends up walking


Yea I rather keep amirov
Jul. 9, 2021 at 12:36 p.m.
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Way too much for bertuzzi and vanecek. Vince will be like a 2 and a 4. Bertuzzi will be a first dermott and a b/c level prospect. He only played 9 games last year and before that he was a 20 goal 50 point guy
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Jul. 9, 2021 at 12:37 p.m.
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What's the timeline on Amirov, When is he coming to North America? No thanks on Dermott he's a bottom pairing LD with no value to us. Without either Rielly or Sandin being involved the Leafs don't have the LD what we want. At least this is somewhat more realistic then the other threads on here for Bertuzzi.
Jul. 9, 2021 at 12:37 p.m.
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Quoting: Terry_AkiSauce
He's 26, he'd get more for less term (see Taylor Halls last deal) vs a lower cap hit over long term (see RNH)


RNH is so low because he has full trade protection, and is signing for 2 years longer, through to when he is 36. RNH is coming off a big boy 7x6m contract.
Bertuzzi for 6 years would take him to 32 when his value is decreasing, so this deal would be Bert's big boy contract. Career earnings are under $8m for Bert, over $44m for RNH. A fair longer term deal for Bertuzzi probably starts with a 5. á la Mantha's contract.
Jul. 9, 2021 at 12:38 p.m.
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
What's the timeline on Amirov, When is he coming to North America? No thanks on Dermott he's a bottom pairing LD with no value to us. Without either Rielly or Sadin being involved the Leafs don't have the LD what we want. At least this is somewhat more realistic then the other threads on here for Bertuzzi.


Dude no one has value to you
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Jul. 9, 2021 at 12:39 p.m.
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Vancouver not making that trade......LD is the very last thing they need. RD, C, top 6, bottom 6, pretty much everything else, but not LD.
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Jul. 9, 2021 at 12:40 p.m.
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Way too much for bertuzzi and vanecek. Vince will be like a 2 and a 4. Bertuzzi will be a first dermott and a b/c level prospect. He only played 9 games last year and before that he was a 20 goal 50 point guy


*A 20 goal 50 point guy on the Detroit Red Wings. If you watch Bertuzzi play you can see that on a good team he would massively exceed that. He would be the perfect upgrade over Zach Hyman.
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Jul. 9, 2021 at 12:40 p.m.
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Fair offer for Bert, I think it may take a bit more than that, maybe Liljegren instead of Dermott, but your offer is fair.
Jul. 9, 2021 at 12:42 p.m.
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Dude no one has value to you


Sorry if facts hurt dude, Dermott isn't any better then what we already have in our pipeline. Heck i doubt he's any better then Dennis Cholowski.
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Jul. 9, 2021 at 12:42 p.m.
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Its more fair then the rest and will probably be something like this, I'd like to replace Dermott for hallinder if possible, but it's realistic what you put
Jul. 9, 2021 at 12:43 p.m.
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
What's the timeline on Amirov, When is he coming to North America? No thanks on Dermott he's a bottom pairing LD with no value to us. Without either Rielly or Sandin being involved the Leafs don't have the LD what we want. At least this is somewhat more realistic then the other threads on here for Bertuzzi.


Amirov was the 15 pick last year but was said to beat one of the best value picks in the 1st round. He skated in Toronto in may so I’d think that he’d have a shot at the roster in 2022-23. Dermott is also undervalued be redwings fans too much. He can play both sides but hasn’t really gotten a shot in Toronto’s top 4 since our d have improved so much
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Jul. 9, 2021 at 12:44 p.m.
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Fair offer for Bert, I think it may take a bit more than that, maybe Liljegren instead of Dermott, but your offer is fair.

More than 3 first for the rights of a 50 point player. Lmao
Jul. 9, 2021 at 12:45 p.m.
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Can someone please explain to me why DET would get rid of him?
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Quoting: Seider53
*A 20 goal 50 point guy on the Detroit Red Wings. If you watch Bertuzzi play you can see that on a good team he would massively exceed that. He would be the perfect upgrade over Zach Hyman.

Were not trading or entire prospect pool for a slight upgrade over Hyman who e we then have to pay 6 million a year. I’d rather sign Hyman 5.5x3
Jul. 9, 2021 at 12:47 p.m.
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Were not trading or entire prospect pool for a slight upgrade over Hyman who e we then have to pay 6 million a year. I’d rather sign Hyman 5.5x3


Oh for sure, and I don't think you have to, there seems to be an odd obsession with trading for Bertuzzi, you already have a very similar player, just resign them and keep the assets for a more valuable move.
Jul. 9, 2021 at 12:49 p.m.
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Quoting: FredrickGoat
More than 3 first for the rights of a 50 point player. Lmao


You are valuing Travis Dermott as a first??? lmao tears of joy

You're missing the point though, we don't really want to trade him. You're gonna have to overpay, or he's not going anywhere. Your entire fanbase seems to want this guy lol, there's a new Bertuzzi to the Leafs thread every couple minutes.
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Jul. 9, 2021 at 12:51 p.m.
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Do Leaf fans ever overestimate the value of their depth. How in the world do you think Mikheyev and Holl are worth a 2nd and a 3rd? I think maybe you get a 3rd and a 6th for those two. Mikheyev is bottom 6 winger and Holl is a 5/6D that can move up the line-up in a pinch. Those kind of depth players don't take home multiple early round picks.
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Jul. 9, 2021 at 12:58 p.m.
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Quoting: zadinaveleno
You are valuing Travis Dermott as a first??? lmao tears of joy

You're missing the point though, we don't really want to trade him. You're gonna have to overpay, or he's not going anywhere. Your entire fanbase seems to want this guy lol, there's a new Bertuzzi to the Leafs thread every couple minutes.

The guy I’m reply to said liljegren, amirov and a 1st. An nhl ready prospect with 3 years left on his elc, and last years 15th pick are more than 2 firsts
Jul. 9, 2021 at 1:13 p.m.
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Can someone please explain to me why DET would get rid of him?


We're not, Supposedly Dubas had interest him him at the TDL but he was injured. So the Leaf fans think they're getting him for basically nothing. They couldn't be more dead wrong.
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Jul. 9, 2021 at 1:55 p.m.
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Quoting: FredrickGoat
The guy I’m reply to said liljegren, amirov and a 1st. An nhl ready prospect with 3 years left on his elc, and last years 15th pick are more than 2 firsts


Yeah Liljegren isn't worth anything let alone a first so there's that...
Jul. 9, 2021 at 1:57 p.m.
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
We're not, Supposedly Dubas had interest him him at the TDL but he was injured. So the Leaf fans think they're getting him for basically nothing. They couldn't be more dead wrong.


Thank you for applying some sense to this.
 
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