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Tarasenko Dumba

Created by: Frankcarp21
Team: 2021-22 Philadelphia Flyers
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 9, 2021
Published: Jul. 9, 2021
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$2,000,000
2$2,000,000
3$3,500,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$3,000,000
3$2,000,000
3$900,000
3$900,000
Trades
1.
PHI
SEA
  1. van Riemsdyk, James
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Expansion
2.
MIN
  1. Patrick, Nolan
  2. Zamula, Yegor
  3. 2022 1st round pick (PHI)
3.
STL
  1. Frost, Morgan
  2. Voracek, Jakub
  3. 2021 1st round pick (PHI)
4.
PHI
NJD
  1. Gostisbehere, Shayne
  2. 2021 3rd round pick (PHI)
Buyouts
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2021
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2022
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2023
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$59,993,095$0$1,450,000$21,506,905

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Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$4,137,500$4,137,500
RW, C
NMC
UFA - 1
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$4,333,333$4,333,333
C
UFA - 1
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$3,750,000$3,750,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$600,000$600K)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$3,571,429$3,571,429
C
NMC
UFA - 5
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
LW
UFA - 2
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
C, LW
UFA - 5
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
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RFA - 1
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$820,000$820,000
C
RFA - 4
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$1,075,000$1,075,000
RW
UFA - 1
$2,000,000$2,000,000
C, LW
UFA - 4
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UFA - 4
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RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$2,550,000$2,550,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$880,833$880,833 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
LD/RD
RFA - 2
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$1,800,000$1,800,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
G
RFA - 3
$3,000,000$3,000,000
G
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$1,600,000$1,600,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$900,000$900,000
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UFA - 1

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Jul. 9, 2021 at 2:25 p.m.
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Yikes, that is quite the overpay for Tarasenko...
Jul. 9, 2021 at 2:31 p.m.
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At least you made a fair, & good offer proposal for dumba compare to other teams fans who keep insisting wild are just going to lose him, so wild should just take whatever is offered
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Jul. 9, 2021 at 2:31 p.m.
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Quoting: DirtyDangles
Yikes, that is quite the overpay for Tarasenko...


I'm not so sure it is. Voracek is good but costs more for an extra year and is older and Frost is now in his draft + 4 season with hardly any nhl experience, so is mostly unproven.
Jul. 9, 2021 at 2:38 p.m.
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Quoting: Frankcarp21
I'm not so sure it is. Voracek is good but costs more for an extra year and is older and Frost is now in his draft + 4 season with hardly any nhl experience, so is mostly unproven.


Voracek has been better than Tarasenko and only makes $750k more and Tarasenko wants out so you lose some leverage there...its a HUGE overpay.
Jul. 9, 2021 at 2:43 p.m.
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Quoting: DirtyDangles
Voracek has been better than Tarasenko and only makes $750k more and Tarasenko wants out so you lose some leverage there...its a HUGE overpay.


Just because a player requests a trade, that doesn't mean there value turns to nothing... Not like we're at the deadline and they have to sell today. They will field offers from tons of teams, you have to spend to get good players. Tarasenko is the better player in this trade, he has just been hurt. Getting the surgery he finally needs, he is primed to bounce back. Frost doesn't have the same value that he used to, he is an unproven prospect who is way behind schedule now.
Jul. 9, 2021 at 2:45 p.m.
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Quoting: Frankcarp21
Just because a player requests a trade, that doesn't mean there value turns to nothing... Not like we're at the deadline and they have to sell today. They will field offers from tons of teams, you have to spend to get good players. Tarasenko is the better player in this trade, he has just been hurt. Getting the surgery he finally needs, he is primed to bounce back. Frost doesn't have the same value that he used to, he is an unproven prospect who is way behind schedule now.


So Tarasenko being hurt and getting healthy is good but we aren't going to say the same with Frost...got it!
Jul. 9, 2021 at 2:47 p.m.
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So Tarasenko being hurt and getting healthy is good but we aren't going to say the same with Frost...got it!


You don't say the same for Frost because he has zero track record. When he was healthy, he was sent down...
Jul. 9, 2021 at 2:57 p.m.
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Quoting: DirtyDangles
Voracek has been better than Tarasenko and only makes $750k more and Tarasenko wants out so you lose some leverage there...its a HUGE overpay.


As a Blues fan, I want nothing to do with Voracek and his cap hit so let's all just agree to go elsewhere.
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Jul. 9, 2021 at 2:57 p.m.
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To be honest, and this is just due to my personal preferences on the types of players they are. But I would rather have Frost coming back over Patrick for Dumba.

Either way, Wild accept. Good trade for both sides.

Well done! 👍
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Jul. 9, 2021 at 3:15 p.m.
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Fair for Gostisbehere. If we move Butcher, or lose him to expansion, I could see it.
Maybe take Voracek out of Tarasenko offer...I think Blues would want to reduce salary.
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Jul. 9, 2021 at 3:19 p.m.
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Fair for Gostisbehere. If we move Butcher, or lose him to expansion, I could see it.
Maybe take Voracek out of Tarasenko offer...I think Blues would want to reduce salary.


Voracek has to be the main piece if it happens, we wouldnt have the cap. If not, we can't be involved, which is the most likely outcome. Just a dream
Jul. 9, 2021 at 3:21 p.m.
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Quoting: Chooch
As a Blues fan, I want nothing to do with Voracek and his cap hit so let's all just agree to go elsewhere.


I'm guessing you don't know much about him then.
Jul. 9, 2021 at 3:22 p.m.
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You don't say the same for Frost because he has zero track record. When he was healthy, he was sent down...


Actually he got hurt playing in the NHL but ok...
Jul. 9, 2021 at 3:24 p.m.
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Actually he got hurt playing in the NHL but ok...


He made it 1.5 games into the season but ok lmao. Listen, not saying hes bad, but he is unproven. You really can't even argue that.
Jul. 9, 2021 at 3:27 p.m.
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Quoting: Frankcarp21
He made it 1.5 games into the season but ok lmao. Listen, not saying hes bad, but he is unproven. You really can't even argue that.


And Tarasenko has shoulder problems. Voracek and Tarasenko are basically worth the same but i'd sprinkle in something small to account for the cap difference but not 13OA and Frost. A 2nd or 3rd at most!
Jul. 9, 2021 at 4:02 p.m.
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Quoting: DirtyDangles
I'm guessing you don't know much about him then.


I know how good Voracek is. I don't want him at ages 32-34 making $8.5m per for the Blues though. Another team might.
Jul. 9, 2021 at 4:05 p.m.
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I know how good Voracek is. I don't want him at ages 32-34 making $8.5m per for the Blues though. Another team might.


You are in win now mode and Voracek has had no drop off production wise. Most if not all other teams are gonna offer picks/prospects imo. And he makes $8,25 not $8.5
 
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