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Other Fanbases Whats the Cost

Created by: themacriley
Team: 2021-22 Edmonton Oilers
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 9, 2021
Published: Jul. 9, 2021
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Curious on what each fanbase, or just Armchair GM's opinions on the cost of these players would be. Both specifically if the Oilers were to send an offer, or a team in general were to send "a pick, an A prospect and a B prospect" for example.
Thanks for the input!
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  1. Bertuzzi, Tyler [RFA Rights]
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  1. Buchnevich, Pavel [RFA Rights]
NYR
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2021
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2022
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2023
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
20$81,500,000$60,190,172$669,339$1,757,500$21,309,828
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$850,000$850,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 2
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$12,500,000$12,500,000
C
UFA - 5
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$3,750,000$3,750,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 2
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$8,500,000$8,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 4
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$750,000$750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$5,125,000$5,125,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 8
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$3,200,000$3,200,000
RW
UFA - 3
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$1,650,000$1,650,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$1,175,000$1,175,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$834,167$834,167 (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
C
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,600,000$5,600,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
RFA - 2
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$785,000$785,000
G
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LD
RFA - 3
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$850,000$850,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$725,000$725,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$4,167,000$4,167,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2

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Jul. 9, 2021 at 7:18 p.m.
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Bertuzzi, comparable to the Mantha trade in value, maybe a smidge less.
1st and either useful roster player of suitable age in need of a change of scenery or Solid A-/B+ Prospect.

In my opinion, some will want more, I get it.
Assuming mid first 15-20 range.
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Jul. 9, 2021 at 7:19 p.m.
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On 2/3 are available. Buch is unavailable at a price that you’d pay
Jul. 9, 2021 at 7:25 p.m.
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Thinking that broberg (who is my top choice), Bouchard (my number two) and holloway (#3) are untouchable. I would be looking at Lavoie, one of the goalie prospects with good upside (I don't know enough about them to judge), a first and a second.
If you want to talk about cap coming back then I would need to talk one of those first 3 guys. Just my opinion.
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Jul. 9, 2021 at 7:36 p.m.
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Depends how much cap the Blues would be taking back. For teams like NJ, BOS, NYR, even you guys, that seem like they can afford to take most of his cap, I don't expect anything too substantial. Like a B+ prospect and a 2nd/3rd. With teams that we need to flatten the cap with, I expect a bit more.

For Tarasenko:
Koskinen, Lavoie, 2nd, 4th
or
Savoie, 2nd

I won't go into deals involving Bouchard, Holloway, or Broberg because you legit need those guys. Would love to have Bouchard somehow though.
Jul. 9, 2021 at 8:19 p.m.
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On 2/3 are available. Buch is unavailable at a price that you’d pay


Based on the fact he is an RFA with arbitration rights, I don't think he is unavailable. Maybe not available for a logical price compared to player value.
Jul. 9, 2021 at 8:36 p.m.
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Based on the fact he is an RFA with arbitration rights, I don't think he is unavailable. Maybe not available for a logical price compared to player value.


So he is available if you are going to overpay by a lot. As for arbitration it won’t get that far. Every player settled for less last season and would this season also. Every fan on here expected Strome and ADA to get 6-7M.. so far off. We can afford the salary of Buch, don’t make the mistake of thinking he could get 7-9M. We are in compete now mode as per ownership, the GM isn’t moving a now piece for futures. Unless it’s Bouchard and halloway and maybe then some. I’m telling you it would be a deal that no one would do
Jul. 9, 2021 at 8:39 p.m.
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Quoting: NYR1983
So he is available if you are going to overpay by a lot. As for arbitration it won’t get that far. Every player settled for less last season and would this season also. Every fan on here expected Strome and ADA to get 6-7M.. so far off. We can afford the salary of Buch, don’t make the mistake of thinking he could get 7-9M. We are in compete now mode as per ownership, the GM isn’t moving a now piece for futures. Unless it’s Bouchard and halloway and maybe then some. I’m telling you it would be a deal that no one would do


Which is fair. Understandable that its unlikely that Buch gets traded, but was curious on where the line is for him to be moved. I wish we got him when he was more "available" a few years back at deadline.
Jul. 9, 2021 at 8:53 p.m.
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Ill put a package together including tarasanko for Draisaitl, other than that there really isnt much of interest on your team.
Jul. 9, 2021 at 9:01 p.m.
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Ill put a package together including tarasanko for Draisaitl, other than that there really isnt much of interest on your team.


Lol okay have fun with that.
Jul. 9, 2021 at 10:04 p.m.
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Lol okay have fun with that.


1.) I havn't seen a single source that says he'd waive for Edmonton. Highly unlikely.
2.) We are stacked on D, our biggest need is a goal scorer who people want to go out and buy their jersey. You have 2 of them. You'll never part with McDavid and RNH is highly unlikely after signing the 8 year deal.

It ultimately comes down to us just not being a good fit for trading at this time. Id offer our 16th OA this year and 2nd next year plus tarasanko, Dunn, and Blais?
Jul. 9, 2021 at 10:13 p.m.
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1.) I havn't seen a single source that says he'd waive for Edmonton. Highly unlikely.
2.) We are stacked on D, our biggest need is a goal scorer who people want to go out and buy their jersey. You have 2 of them. You'll never part with McDavid and RNH is highly unlikely after signing the 8 year deal.

It ultimately comes down to us just not being a good fit for trading at this time. Id offer our 16th OA this year and 2nd next year plus tarasanko, Dunn, and Blais?


I haven't seen any sources saying who he would waive for. Also if he wants out bad enough, he may waive for more teams. Him wanting out, and his injury history/risk do really limit his ability to choose his location.

Very few teams will give you a guy like that for Tarasenko, unless you're retaining half his salary.

I do understand it not being a good fit for trading at this time, and I am curious as to how that situation plays out. As for that Draisatl offer, not even close.
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Jul. 10, 2021 at 7:30 a.m.
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Which is fair. Understandable that its unlikely that Buch gets traded, but was curious on where the line is for him to be moved. I wish we got him when he was more "available" a few years back at deadline.


If a cap crunch makes him available I would think Holloway is the guy the Rangers would target. Center is the greatest need.
 
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