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Created by: Leafs_fan13
Initial Creation Date: Jul 10, 2021
Published: Jul 10 at 6:47
Team: 2021-22 Toronto Maple Leafs
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Bertuzzi, Tyler4$3,350,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Bogosian, Zach2$875,000
Schwartz, Jaden3$3,250,000
Driedger, Chris2$2,250,000
Cizikas, Casey2$2,150,000
Goodrow, Barclay3$1,750,000
Sheahan, Riley1$750,000
Foligno, Nick1$1,650,000
Trades
TOR
  1. Bertuzzi, Tyler [RFA Rights]
Additional Details:
Stop overrating the guy.
DET
  1. Kerfoot, Alexander
  2. Der-Arguchintsev, Semyon
  3. 2022 2nd round pick (TOR)
TOR
  1. 2022 5th round pick (EDM)
This deal makes sense for edmonton. The get a guy who has some speed is great on the forecheck and can play the PK while being able to play centre.
EDM
  1. Engvall, Pierre
TOR
  1. 2022 5th round pick (COL)
Getting a guy who is great on the defensive side of the puck has some speed and creates chances just needs to finish them.
COL
  1. Mikheyev, Ilya
TOR
    SEA
    1. Holl, Justin
    Retained Salary Transactions
    • Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)
    DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
    2021
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    2022
    TOR
    EDM
    COL
    TOR
    2023
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
    22$81,500,000$80,638,116$0$400,000$861,884

    Roster

    Left WingCenterRight Wing
    Schwartz, Jaden
    $3,250,000
    LW
    NMC
    UFA - 5
    TOR
    Matthews, Auston
    $11,640,250
    C
    UFA - 3
    TOR
    Marner, Mitchell
    $10,903,000
    RW
    UFA - 4
    Bertuzzi, Tyler
    $3,350,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 2
    TOR
    Tavares, John
    $11,000,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    TOR
    Nylander, William
    $6,962,366
    RW, LW
    UFA - 3
    Goodrow, Barclay
    $1,750,000
    LW
    NTC
    UFA - 6
    Cizikas, Casey
    $2,150,000
    C
    UFA - 6
    TOR
    Foligno, Nick
    $1,650,000
    LW, C, RW
    NMC
    UFA - 2
    TOR
    Simmonds, Wayne
    $900,000
    RW, LW
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    Sheahan, Riley
    $750,000
    LW, C
    UFA - 1
    TOR
    Spezza, Jason
    $750,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    TOR
    Rielly, Morgan
    $5,000,000
    LD
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    TOR
    Brodie, TJ
    $5,000,000
    RD
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    TOR
    Campbell, Jack
    $1,650,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    TOR
    Muzzin, Jake
    $5,625,000
    LD
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    TOR
    Dermott, Travis
    $1,500,000
    LD/RD
    RFA - 2
    Driedger, Chris
    $2,250,000
    G
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    TOR
    Sandin, Rasmus
    $894,167
    LD
    RFA - 1
    TOR
    Liljegren, Timothy
    $863,333
    RD
    RFA - 1
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    TOR
    Bogosian, Zach
    $875,000
    RD
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    TOR
    Brooks, Adam
    $725,000
    C
    RFA - 1

    Special Teams

    Power Play 1
    Schwartz, J.
    Tavares, J.
    Marner, M.
    Sandin, R.
    Matthews, A.
    Power Play 2
    Foligno, N.
    Bertuzzi, T.
    Spezza, J.
    Rielly, M.
    Nylander, W.
    Penalty Kill 1
    Cizikas, C.
    Foligno, N.
    Muzzin, J.
    Brodie, T.
    Penalty Kill 2
    Sheahan, R.
    Marner, M.
    Dermott, T.
    Liljegren, T.

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    Jul 10 at 6:52
    #1
    Jack Hughes is Elite
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    Stop undervaluing the guy
    GoodIdeaAtTheTime, McSchleep, BlueSeeker and 7 others liked this.
    Jul 10 at 6:52
    #2
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    Gonna need glasses. Another easy no from Detroit on another terrible Bertuzzi deal.
    buffbry, RedWing9119, Billy12Bob and 2 others liked this.
    Jul 10 at 6:54
    #3
    Hire Dusty Imoo
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    Bertuzzi isnt getting traded stop it laughs fans please
    Jul 10 at 6:56
    #4
    Leon and Jesse
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    Bertuzzi is a no so is Engvall
    buffbry, Billy12Bob, Gregzky and 2 others liked this.
    Jul 10 at 7:05
    #5
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    Quoting: ApparentlyOilFan
    Bertuzzi is a no so is Engvall


    So you don’t want more speed in your bottom 6. Rock on Ken.
    Jul 10 at 7:05
    #6
    Thread Starter
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    Quoting: McSchleep
    Bertuzzi isnt getting traded stop it laughs fans please

    Stop overvaluing the guy.
    Jul 10 at 7:05
    #7
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    Quoting: GoodIdeaAtTheTime
    Gonna need glasses. Another easy no from Detroit on another terrible Bertuzzi deal.


    Gonna need some glasses. Another easy no from toronto when Detroit tries to get a top prospect from them.
    Jul 10 at 7:05
    #8
    Hire Dusty Imoo
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    Quoting: Leafs_fan13
    Stop overvaluing the guy.


    Stop undervaluing the guy
    buffbry, BCAPP, GoodIdeaAtTheTime and 4 others liked this.
    Jul 10 at 7:06
    #9
    Thread Starter
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    Quoting: McSchleep
    Bertuzzi isnt getting traded stop it laughs fans please

    Reports saying he’s on the block🤣🤣
    Jul 10 at 7:06
    #10
    Hire Dusty Imoo
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    Quoting: Leafs_fan13
    Reports saying he’s on the block🤣🤣


    Reports also said Tkachuk is getting traded, he's not
    Jul 10 at 7:08
    #11
    Buffbry
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    Dekeyser + Nielsen + 2nd for nylander
    McSchleep, RedWing9119, RedWings86 and 4 others liked this.
    Jul 10 at 7:09
    #12
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    Quoting: Leafs_fan13
    Reports saying he’s on the block🤣🤣


    No, Elliotte Freidman said Dubas was interested in him. Nice try though.
    McSchleep, RedWings86, ISeeBlueHeLooks and 3 others liked this.
    Jul 10 at 7:18
    #13
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    Curse you Elliotte!
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    Jul 10 at 7:37
    #14
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    As a Leafs fan:

    I'm not even going to address the Bertuzzi deal but I am going to say those are some mighty tinted glasses on those Ufa deals.

    Oh and Casey cizikas is a fourth line not 3rd line c. Hence nyi acquired pageau to be their third line c
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    Jul 10 at 7:42
    #15
    Ehhhh
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    Quoting: Leafs_fan13
    Gonna need some glasses. Another easy no from toronto when Detroit tries to get a top prospect from them.


    are you under some weird impression that Detroit needs to trade bertuzzi? if toronto wants him they will need to give value for him.
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    Jul 10 at 7:56
    #16
    Leon and Jesse
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    Quoting: Leafs_fan13
    So you don’t want more speed in your bottom 6. Rock on Ken.

    We've got Holloway coming up next season if you forgot
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    Jul 10 at 8:14
    #17
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    Quoting: Leafs_fan13
    So you don’t want more speed in your bottom 6. Rock on Ken.


    Lol. Engvall is has no value to any team.

    Every organization has players they would rather give PT to than Engvall. That are younger, cheaper and probably better, definitely higher upside. Let alone trade for him.

    The Pens have Angello(25), Zohorna(25), Lafferty(26), OConnor(22). None can break the roster without an injury. And most every organization has similar players and similar NHL depth. Engvall is NHL depth at best. Not worth any draft capital. Not even a 7th. The organization would rather give PT to another player in their system than trade for Engvall.

    Leafs fans just need to bury his contract in the AHL. It’s only a 15K cap hit. He has no value to any other team.

    I see so many ACGM’s from Leafs fans “Engvall anywhere for anyone”. Well, everyone declines.

    Bury his contract and if he would get picked up off waivers, then great, there u go, he went anywhere for anything.
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    Jul 10 at 8:53
    #18
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    Detroit declines, Bert not on the block.
    Jul 10 at 9:41
    #19
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    The Oilers don't want Engvall for the same reason the Leafs don't want him. That's why every Leafs ACGM has him being traded.
    Jul 10 at 9:57
    #20
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    Quoting: Leafs_fan13
    Reports saying he’s on the block🤣🤣

    Provide a source. Friedman said Dubas inquired which means Dubas called Yzerman and not the other way around.
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    Jul 11 at 12:43
    #21
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    Quoting: Gregzky
    The Oilers don't want Engvall for the same reason the Leafs don't want him. That's why every Leafs ACGM has him being traded.


    How many leafs fans ACGM’s say “Engvall anywhere for anything”. Just bury his contract, it’s only a 15K hit. He’s not a prospect. He’s NHL depth, bottom 6 at best. He’s a scratch for a lot of Leafs games.

    Why would a rebuilding team want him.?? They have better options as a stop-gap.

    Maybe a contending team as a throw him, like the Pens took Sceviour last season. But as a throw-in, not as the main piece. I can’t see him having any value to any franchise.
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