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minnesota double dips

Created by: MrApplesauce
Initial Creation Date: Jul 11, 2021
Published: Jul 11 at 2:37
Team: 2021-22 Minnesota Wild
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Kaprizov, Kirill5$9,500,000
Reinhart, Sam7$7,750,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Cole, Ian3$1,250,000
Lewis, Trevor1$795,000
Perreault, Mathieu2$1,050,000
Trades
MIN
  1. Eichel, Jack
  2. Reinhart, Sam [RFA Rights]
BUF
  1. Fiala, Kevin [RFA Rights]
  2. Rossi, Marco
  3. Khovanov, Alexander
  4. Hartman, Ryan
  5. 2021 1st round pick (MIN)
  6. 2022 1st round pick (MIN)
  7. 2021 3rd round pick (PIT)
MIN
    SEA
    1. Rask, Victor
    2. 2021 2nd round pick (MIN)
    3. 2022 4th round pick (MIN)
    MIN
    1. 2022 2nd round pick (NJD)
    2. 2023 2nd round pick (NJD)
    NJD
    1. Dumba, Matt
    Buyouts
    • Zach Parise: $2,371,794
    DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
    2021
    PIT
    MIN
    MIN
    MIN
    MIN
    MIN
    2022
    MIN
    NJD
    MIN
    MIN
    SJS
    MIN
    2023
    MIN
    MIN
    NJD
    MIN
    MIN
    MIN
    MIN
    MIN
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
    21$81,500,000$84,372,756$0$732,500-$2,872,756
    Left WingCenterRight Wing
    MIN
    Kaprizov, Kirill
    $9,500,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 5
    BUF
    Eichel, Jack
    $10,000,000
    C
    UFA - 5
    Reinhart, Sam
    $7,750,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 3
    MIN
    Zuccarello, Mats
    $6,000,000
    LW, RW
    NMC
    UFA - 3
    MIN
    Eriksson Ek, Joel
    $5,250,000
    C
    UFA - 8
    MIN
    Greenway, Jordan
    $2,100,000
    LW, RW
    RFA - 1
    MIN
    Foligno, Marcus
    $3,100,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 3
    MIN
    Boldy, Matthew
    $880,833
    C
    RFA - 2
    MIN
    Bjugstad, Nick
    $900,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 1
    Perreault, Mathieu
    $1,050,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    MIN
    Sturm, Nico
    $725,000
    C
    UFA - 1
    Lewis, Trevor
    $795,000
    RW
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    MIN
    Brodin, Jonas
    $6,000,000
    LD
    NMC
    UFA - 7
    MIN
    Spurgeon, Jared
    $7,575,000
    RD
    NMC
    UFA - 6
    MIN
    Talbot, Cam
    $3,666,667
    G
    UFA - 2
    MIN
    Suter, Ryan
    $7,538,462
    LD
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    MIN
    Addison, Calen
    $795,000
    RD
    RFA - 2
    MIN
    Kähkönen, Kaapo
    $725,000
    G
    RFA - 1
    MIN
    Suter, Ryan
    $3,650,000
    LD
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    MIN
    Cole, Ian
    $1,250,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 1
    MIN
    Soucy, Carson
    $2,750,000
    LD
    UFA - 2

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    Jul 11 at 3:04
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    1) Take out Ryan Hartman out of that deal as well take out Sam Reinhart


    2) wild will absolutely not offer two top c prospects. Sam Reinhart isn't a c, he's a Winger.

    3) If fiala is added , Rossi won't

    4) wild aren't just going to give away dumba. like beyond just mind numbing. there's zero chance wild are going to trade dumba for two 2bd round picks
    Jul 11 at 3:31
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    doug wilson do smth
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    Quoting: Clement
    1) Take out Ryan Hartman out of that deal as well take out Sam Reinhart


    2) wild will absolutely not offer two top c prospects. Sam Reinhart isn't a c, he's a Winger.

    3) If fiala is added , Rossi won't

    4) wild aren't just going to give away dumba. like beyond just mind numbing. there's zero chance wild are going to trade dumba for two 2bd round picks


    1) man what??

    2) khovanov isn't exactly a top center prospect. i know reinhard isn't a C, that's why i'm playing him RW.

    3) if you want valuable pieces you're gonna have to give up valuable pieces.

    4) ig dumba could go for more but you could also make the argument that devon toews also went for 2 2nds and he's way better than dumba.
    Jul 11 at 4:58
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    Edited Jul 11 at 5:04
    Quoting: MrApplesauce
    1) man what??

    2) khovanov isn't exactly a top center prospect. i know reinhard isn't a C, that's why i'm playing him RW.

    3) if you want valuable pieces you're gonna have to give up valuable pieces.

    4) ig dumba could go for more but you could also make the argument that devon toews also went for 2 2nds and he's way better than dumba.




    1) it's not that hard. Take out Sam Reinhart. Wild will not trade Ryan Hartman after he signed a very team friendly 3 years extension. Hartman, & Marcus foligno are essentially the crown jewel of bill Guerin eyes because they are essentially exactly like him

    2) khovanov is a top c prospect because wild scouts, & gm view him that way
    3) not to Be rude, but wild gm has made it clear he's not going to spend; give away assets. Right now Eichel doesn't have that value
    4) You actually can't compare the two. Wild do need to trade dumba; neither do they view dumba as a cap dump last year like Islanders did. Islanders didn't have cap room to resign Barzal, & put a roster together which is why they did that move. Colorado GM notoriously is known to take advantage of weak GM'S, so your point doesn't mean much
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    Jul 13 at 12:37
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    doug wilson do smth
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    Quoting: Clement
    1) it's not that hard. Take out Sam Reinhart. Wild will not trade Ryan Hartman after he signed a very team friendly 3 years extension. Hartman, & Marcus foligno are essentially the crown jewel of bill Guerin eyes because they are essentially exactly like him

    2) khovanov is a top c prospect because wild scouts, & gm view him that way
    3) not to Be rude, but wild gm has made it clear he's not going to spend; give away assets. Right now Eichel doesn't have that value
    4) You actually can't compare the two. Wild do need to trade dumba; neither do they view dumba as a cap dump last year like Islanders did. Islanders didn't have cap room to resign Barzal, & put a roster together which is why they did that move. Colorado GM notoriously is known to take advantage of weak GM'S, so your point doesn't mean much


    much clearer. thanks for the input.

    also keep in mind this is pretty unrealistic and probably won't happen, just trying to project what the wild could do to afford both assets.
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    Jul 13 at 12:38
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    Quoting: MrApplesauce
    1) man what??

    2) khovanov isn't exactly a top center prospect. i know reinhard isn't a C, that's why i'm playing him RW.

    3) if you want valuable pieces you're gonna have to give up valuable pieces.

    4) ig dumba could go for more but you could also make the argument that devon toews also went for 2 2nds and he's way better than dumba.


    Comparing obvious fleeces to potential trade ideas is not a good idea man.

    Btw, Lou is not as good of a GM as Bill and even if you disagree with that (which you shouldn't imo) Lou was FORCED to get rid of Toews. Guerin isn't in as bad of a situation with Dumba whatsoever
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