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Created by: Wilbur
Team: 2021-22 Edmonton Oilers
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 10, 2021
Published: Jul. 11, 2021
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Keith to Edmonton is probably going to happen, because Bowman wants to do him a solid. Chicago isn't going to take Neal, but Turris can be buried. I can't see a scenario, other than with Neal where the hawks don't eat salary. This deal kind of is probably as close to evening out the cap hit as it will get, but still saves Chicago more, so it will cost them a pick. The Hawks are in a corner with Keith indicating where he wants to go and it is on Bowman to make it work.

It is possible that the league goes back to a North Division the way Covid is trending in the US (and based on what's going on in the UK) so Canada`s borders won't be opened anytime soon and Keith wants to be able to spend time with his son in Canada.

I think one of Chicago's 2nds rather than a 3rd will be most likely the real transaction. We'll have to see how this plays out.

With Tarasenko, similar stuff, but the risk to Edmonton is massive if Tarasenko is done as an NHL player, something we are already going through with Klefbom. So James Neal must be part of this deal. Maybe another team has a better deal, but it is a massive risk and most GMs are not really risk-takers.

The Minnesota deal is so Minnesota doesn`t lose either Dumba and KK for nothing. Kassian is used in a subsequent trade with an Eastern team like Pittsburgh or NYR.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$775,000
2$775,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
4$2,500,000
1$3,000,000
1$3,000,000
4$5,500,000
2$2,000,000
2$750,000
1$1,000,000
2$1,500,000
2$1,500,000
2$850,000
Trades
1.
EDM
  1. Keith, Duncan ($1,250,000 retained)
  2. 2022 3rd round pick (VGK)
2.
3.
EDM
  1. Tarasenko, Vladimir ($2,500,000 retained)
  2. 2022 3rd round pick (STL)
4.
EDM
  1. 2021 5th round pick (NJD)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2021
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2022
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2023
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
24$81,500,000$77,921,134$669,339$850,000$3,578,866
Left WingCentreRight Wing
$3,000,000$3,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$12,500,000$12,500,000
C
UFA - 5
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 2
$3,000,000$3,000,000
LW
UFA - 3
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$8,500,000$8,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 4
$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 7
$2,500,000$2,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
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$5,125,000$5,125,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 8
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$1,175,000$1,175,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$775,000$775,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
$750,000$750,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,600,000$5,600,000
LD
UFA - 1
$2,000,000$2,000,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$4,288,462$4,288,462
LD
NMC
UFA - 2
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Minnesota Wild
$725,000$725,000
G
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
RFA - 2
$1,500,000$1,500,000
LD
UFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$850,000$850,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 2
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$4,167,000$4,167,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$850,000$850,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
$1,500,000$1,500,000
C, RW, LW
UFA - 2
Taxi Squad
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$785,000$785,000 ($0$0$0$0)
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UFA - 1

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Jul. 11, 2021 at 2:56 a.m.
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one blues decline anyways but tarsenko wont waive
Jul. 11, 2021 at 2:59 a.m.
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This can't be real, like think Before proposing this unfair, bs proposals

Wild very easily say no, & thus deal is beyond horrible, & totally one sided

1) Kaapo kahkonen will be protected, & the false reasonings that wild will lose this player, & that player needs to stop

2) a team loses one player ; not two

3) Wild aren't taking on that horrible contract, cap dump player who will never play on wild.

4) Edmonton pays to get rid of Zack K. Wild don't need it want a 3rd liner Winger who wild have better of, and cheaper off

5) only good thing you offered is Ryan McCleod, and that isn't even enough to get dumba
Jul. 11, 2021 at 3:09 a.m.
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Blues decline
Jul. 11, 2021 at 3:39 a.m.
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Edited Jul. 11, 2021 at 3:58 a.m.
Quoting: Clement
This can't be real, like think Before proposing this unfair, bs proposals

Wild very easily say no, & thus deal is beyond horrible, & totally one sided

1) Kaapo kahkonen will be protected, & the false reasonings that wild will lose this player, & that player needs to stop

2) a team loses one player ; not two

3) Wild aren't taking on that horrible contract, cap dump player who will never play on wild.

4) Edmonton pays to get rid of Zack K. Wild don't need it want a 3rd liner Winger who wild have better of, and cheaper off

5) only good thing you offered is Ryan McCleod, and that isn't even enough to get dumba


What is unfair is reading "real" in any comment. This is not real, this is an idea, in your opinion it is an unfair idea.

Cool; you are totally entitled to your opinion, but please know that it is easier to get someone to see your viewpoint when your word choice is less antagonistic. And know that I did not post this idea to personally insult you.

The world is full of possibilities and this my attempt at exploring them. Hopefully you won't be very disappointed with reality's version.

You are also massively under-rating Ethan Bear, who most Oiler fans would rate higher than Dumba.
Jul. 11, 2021 at 5:15 a.m.
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Quoting: Wilbur
What is unfair is reading "real" in any comment. This is not real, this is an idea, in your opinion it is an unfair idea.

Cool; you are totally entitled to your opinion, but please know that it is easier to get someone to see your viewpoint when your word choice is less antagonistic. And know that I did not post this idea to personally insult you.

The world is full of possibilities and this my attempt at exploring them. Hopefully you won't be very disappointed with reality's version.

You are also massively under-rating Ethan Bear, who most Oiler fans would rate higher than Dumba.



- Well, wild rather keep dumba. He's way better than Ethan Bear who Edmonton is going to lose , or get rid of

- if you want to be realistic, your proposal is bs.
You aren't going to think wild are going to give up dumba, & Kaapo kahkonen just because

- Sorry, but your faulty logic isn't going to get you wild two good players

- By the way Seattle isn't going to choose Kaapo kahkonen over dumba, or soucy : so there lays in itself your faulty reasoning, and the fact that you don't view the view things reality. Which Edmonton fans? Because I guarantee you every gm, & wild fans view dumba way better than caleb bear whose not close to dumba

- No one is going to take Edmonton bad trash contract, player in Zack whose nothing more than a cap dump . Edmonton pays to get rid of him

- You are telling me I will be disappointed with reality's version? What does that say about you proposing a crappy 1 side proposal that isn't realistic?
Jul. 11, 2021 at 5:38 a.m.
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Jul. 11, 2021 at 11:05 a.m.
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every team rejects
Jul. 11, 2021 at 1:30 p.m.
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Quoting: Clement
- Well, wild rather keep dumba. He's way better than Ethan Bear who Edmonton is going to lose , or get rid of

- if you want to be realistic, your proposal is bs.
You aren't going to think wild are going to give up dumba, & Kaapo kahkonen just because

- Sorry, but your faulty logic isn't going to get you wild two good players

- By the way Seattle isn't going to choose Kaapo kahkonen over dumba, or soucy : so there lays in itself your faulty reasoning, and the fact that you don't view the view things reality. Which Edmonton fans? Because I guarantee you every gm, & wild fans view dumba way better than caleb bear whose not close to dumba

- No one is going to take Edmonton bad trash contract, player in Zack whose nothing more than a cap dump . Edmonton pays to get rid of him

- You are telling me I will be disappointed with reality's version? What does that say about you proposing a crappy 1 side proposal that isn't realistic?


I will circle back to this with you in a couple of weeks.
Jul. 11, 2021 at 2:30 p.m.
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I will circle back to this with you in a couple of weeks.


Yeah, & you will see it won't happen
 
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